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I know mate I was being sarcastic on this occasion 😂

We are also two time winners. 🏆 🏆 A Paul Wright hat-trick helped us defeat Hearts 4-3 to win it in 1987.

If it is Martinez, we don't have a golden generation for him to ruin, like he did with Belgium and Portugal.

I'm in agreement with the great majority of what Panda says other than Keskinen. To me he just flattered to deceive far too often. If Frame himself is wanting away then we have to accept that, if he is not wanting away then it looks like he is being forced out the door ahead of the likes of Gyamfi and Molloy. Cdden over Devlin for me is another one I totally disagree with. I would also have kept big Kjarten, interesting take from Panda there re Horneland. Will reserve judgement on the new keeper. As much as I was screaming at Mitov for getting Lobban sent off at Parkhead i'm sorry to see him go. Mitov cost us too many goals, points and games last season. Lewis, Ronan and Lyons should be ok and perhaps the new Moroccan lad. The rest of the signings. Not good enough.

Finished 2-1. Really good game with both sides playing really good football at times. Really impressed with Hemmings and Madjo for Villa. Luis Enrique is yet to lose a European final as a manager. 6 wins now.

With Xavi turning up as the new head coach for the Netherlands, that may well suggest we’re getting Martinez as he was heavily linked with that Netherlands role.

They're two times winners you know. Probably about the only thing they have won in my lifetime without financially cheating 😉

PSG 2-1 up after a VAR review. Another great finish.

1-1 at half time. Villa goal coming from 17 year old striker Madjo.

PSG 1-0 up with a stunning strike.

Super Cup between PSG and Aston Villa on TNT now.

Thanks for restoring order to this thread.

I heard about it through a Hearts fan excitedly telling me 😆 When he found out it was club legends playing he had to ask what they were.

who cares as long as their fans think so and are extra gutted?

Can you imagine how excited Hearts fans got when they heard the news though....

Paying him more? No, probably not, though I do wonder how far away our offer was from theirs as he would have needed to take a significant wage drop to stay. ICT fans I know had heard rumour he was coming back as early as last summer so I was a little surprised we even entered into talks with him. I doubt Robinson was either, it felt like the right time for him to move on if you ask me. I would be genuinely shocked if he was gone by November. I can understand current unease after the weekend but I think Robinson is pragmatic enough to get the results he needs until the squad really starts to gel. I think it's fair to say that Robinsons track record is one of putting together teams that when playing well are usually better than the sum of their parts. That takes time of course but it's not impossible we have a greater appreciation of the squad once they have played together for a few months. FWIW I do think Happe, Mayo, Smith and Ronan look to be good business so far so it's not all doom and gloom. Don't agree re Topi, it just never quite worked out for him and I doubt he was signing a new contract. With 2 years left it was the best time to sell and I think fee wise we did alright given his form over the 2 years he was with us. Agree it is questionable letting the others mentioned go though. Why do players want to leave? I suspect some decided they wanted to go before Robinson even walked in the door (Frame springs to mind here) given all the turmoil at the club. Others because it was clear they weren't in the managers thoughts once he was in the door. I'm not worried myself 2bh, not yet anyway. This was always going to be a high turnover summer but if we get to January and half the players Robinson has signed want to walk then that would be a different matter.

Motherwell sign Irish midfielder Joe Hodge from CD Tondela in Portugal. Got 1st full cap for Ireland in June friendlies. Previously on books of Manchester City and Wolves.

U2 - With or Without You

The Tennents Sixes is returning. It's not going to be current players which is a shame. Honestly, we could play guys needing the minutes; I'd pay to watch Suman, Knoester, Milne, Lobban, Frame and Bilalovic bring the trophy home. We're playing one Aberdeen fixture per session, at £25 a ticket for each session (£35 for the final). Would have been better just playing each group in each session and you could have paid £25 to watch all three Aberdeen games (not the £75 plus another £35 for the final - family friendly eh?) And, continuing the moan, why are they grouped by geography if all the games are in Glasgow? Let us have a crack at the Old firm or the Edinburgh two. Arsed about how we do against St Johnstone's legends. Still, after winning the masters for the previous two seasons, we've got to fancy our chances.

Yeah this is my concern too. I’m genuinely not fussed who they ship out from last years losers bar Frame & Lobban as young loons, but are we replacing them with better? Juries out. I think we could all accept more “agricultural” football if we are also difficult to beat and winning games ugly. Saturday was a real worry in that regard. If we can’t even get the physical aspects right we’re absolutely fucked. Robinson hangs his hat on that too so it was a really bad look for him that one…

Well I doubt Inverness are paying him more, and I think he was always going to leave anyway, but it was more a comment that I doubt Robinson was that arsed about him leaving. The thing is - I look at the squad and it's average. I think I said before the opening day, that last season the squad had too many guys who were there based on potential, and this one generally is proven at this level, so in the short term at least you expect an improvement. That's fine. People are suggesting Robinson won't last until November - so you can't blame him for only caring about results in the next three months and ensuring his job isn't under threat. However, if we get to the end of this window and have moved on Frame, Kjartansson, Keskinen, Bilalovic, and Lobban is being kept out of the team by Cadden, then our model isn't in great shape. We're selling players for peanuts just now who could be worth something in a few years. I also keep reading about players wanting to leave. You have to question why that is. That worries me.

One piece of good news for the Jambos. They may get to add to their threadbare honours list now that the Tennents Sixes is coming back.

Nilsson - Without You

Billy Idol - Eyes Without A Face

Shinnie I suspect wanted too much money for how much he would likely play but agreed on all the others