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Well Guinness does tend to take a while to settle.

He played quite high up, but didn't have the confidence to overlap very often. It's a concern with Molloy as the only other option assuming Gyamfi and Frame are off, as I don't think the new lad or Molloy are confident on the overlap. Hopefully it's just GW getting up to speed.

Some game. Very good of England to eventually turn up to the world cup.

You may be right but Guinness walker rarely went forward either…!

I like France's style. Make them think they're the dog's bollocks, then pulverise them in the second half.

Just to stay, I missed the first half of England v Argentina, and tonight I missed the first half of this game. I should watch the second half of England games more often. That third goal was insane.

This game is wild. French looked like some of their players had to be forced to play in first half and England could have had been 6 or 7 up at half time. Deschamps must have gone through French at half time as been different team in second half.

You’re missing a cracking game.

The comeback is on 4-2. I would pish myself if France win this.

I don't think he was meant to be an attacking full-back. As I said when looking at the line-up pre-match, Robinson at St Mirren often sent one full-back forward and had the other tuck into defence while the rest moved across. Against Linfield, Devlin started at LB, but essentially tucked in and made it a back three while Lobban went forward and basically played as a winger. Looks like we did the same today but the opposite side.

Well that's enough for me Fuck watching this shite from France. Engerlund four up at half time. Off to bed

England playing better without Kane and Bellingham. France look a shambles though.

Calderwood? Goodwin? Bonthrone? Philip?

3-0? What the fuck are France playing at?

Mince as in mince, made from the back shop bone scrapings at Morrice the Butcher’s Counter-Vegetarianism potted heid emporium. It would only be a weirdo who’d expect a Yuletide mince pie to be deep-fried in batter, although this did occur in Forfar. I was disappointed that it wisna a bridie.

RE the fitness, I assume players stayed on the field longer than normal today to get fitness. In preseason games very rarely did a player get 90 Mins so our fitness is clearly not there yet. Thought our wide play was poor today. On a good day we’ve seen lobban devlin gyamfi and frame bombing down the line and we had width and numbers overload. Today we had smith and yogane far too often left alone 1 to 1 getting the ball too early and expecting them to run 40 yards to get to the line, with no fullback support. Particularly with Guinness walker, I thought he had legit pace and was attack minded, expected more from him today. Neither winger seemed overly capable beating their man, they did a little, but all very predictable. I’d say give them the ball 20-30 yards out to work some magic with the fullback overlapping of pushing on inside. No judgement on the keeper, he’s been in the door 48 hrs. Didn’t look great, but made the saves when needed. Some glaring misses again today, but at least we’re getting chances.

England look like they’re keen to finish 4th and also hand Mbappe the golden boot. EDIT: maybe not…

A far more in-depth analysis than i had a couple of hours ago but not sure we are exactly miles apart in our views. Started strongly, got ourselves two goals ahead and then started to go backwards. My earlier comment about being better off keeping Jimmy might be harsh however. Hugely disappointed at the concession of a very cheap goal reminiscent of last season. Going to Dumfries on Wednesday, hoping for a far more complete performance than tonight

Aye, not necessarily him, but the organisation he is/was part of at Cambridge. Thon Yuval Noah Harari weirdo is/was part of it. I've never quite understood how citizens forums work, they don't seem to solve any issue at all. Like many of the people who are excellent at listing the symptoms of the system, his suggestions all seemed to sit alongside the actual issues and not designed to actually solve them! Someone should tell them that it's okay to say that you don't know how to solve the metacrisis.

Aye, that wasn't great, but it's basically pre season with a whole new team, so difficult to say. We looked really unfit. That's not necessarily unexpected, if we're not fully through the preseason schedule to get us up to full fitness. I suspect games like these are an inconvenience at times. Thought Mayo was decent, Happe fine, Ronan too (his dead balls good). All of them tired quickly after the hour mark. Yogane is a strange one. A slow winger is certainly a new approach, but perhaps he is just unfit too, I'm sure he'll be fine. Aremu is a worry, he started well and then went way off it, which is what he did in every game last season. Hopefully just a fitness issue like the rest. Lyons was good, but needed to be more forward thinking on the ball. Briedl looks a player, it'll be interesting to see him against a good opponent. Smith was fine, a good finish, but again unfit. The Moroccan lad looked decent and did more than Nisbet in the short time he was on the pitch. I didn't see who was at fault for the goal, but I assume it was Milne going by the comments on here, as he was otherwise okay. Didn't think much of the left back. I think we're going to regret letting Mitov go if we do, as I don't rate that goalie at all. Looks like a sub goalie. The saves he did make were good, but nothing he shouldn't be getting to, and the first of his double save was palmed out to their player. He doesn't look right in the sticks. We look ordinary. Not much to get you off your seat, and not an individual player that looks exciting. That's not necessarily a criticism with such a massive turnover.

I didn’t get good vibes from the goalie, maybe just because he looked a bit “unconventional”. The triple save was a parry into a dangerous area followed by 2 shots directly at him. The “world class” save at the end was pretty close to him too and didn’t really need to dive to get to it. Maybe a bit unfair reading that back.

Wins a win and all that - but… Started really well, two early goals and a lovely finish from Smith, then took the foot off the gas and cruised the rest of the first half. Don’t think they got in our box once. That second half though, Jesus wept. Every bit as bad as last year. Two great saves fae the keeper won that for us - the triple save was particularly good - and that’s just embarrassing. Please, for the love of god can that be the end of the Jack Milne experiment. How much fuckin evidence do you need AFC. Enough already ffs…

Interesting game, learned a few things, hope Robinson did too. Glorified preseason, so certainly a good practice game. Mayo is a decent right back but not an attacking right back. Devlin and lobban offer a lot more going forward. Milne is awful in the air, could be a tank but chooses not to be. Smith was average today and when he went off we had nothing on the attacking side on the right. Poor shape when olusanya came on which hurt us, another winger has to be signed. Think lyons breidl and Roman are all good signings. The latter two are also pretty tidy with set pieces. Aremu seems fit and effective too, way better in center mid today. Thought yogane was off it today, but got to remember he’s young. Little chemistry with him and Guinness walker yet, although I think the left back is decent. Didnt really give bilalovic enough time to do anything, should have come on for yogane earlier. Molloy is not a good player. Have yet to see nisbet and Mouloua playing well together, would rather see it one or the other and Marshall given a run at 10. Think nisbet should have been subbed, didn’t do much today. Not a great performance and not a lot created for all the possession we had. But it’s early.

Good to see Lyons has inherited Jensen's gung-ho, devil may care spirit of adventure.