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Yeah, I think he probably deserves more credit than he's getting from some because it is a situation and squad that an experienced manager would be struggling with. However, I think it was @RicoS321 who said it, can't remember the quote, that he does a lot of things you do agree with - ie, Morrison's inclusion apart, I didn't see much disagreement over the line-up or formation v Dundee. But, there's a lot of in-game decisions where you can see he isn't the top level manager that we need just now - whether that's inexperience that'll he'll one day get, or maybe he just doesn't have it. The thing is though, we've gone through an interview process and not appointed anyone, and we're waiting on an answer from a guy who is non-committal. Let's be honest here, if he can recreate the Livingston performance a few more times and steer Aberdeen to Hampden, I wouldn't put it past the club thinking he's worth a go.

In what sense? You’ve got to look at the players he has at his disposal. I don’t see them playing that differently to the way the played under Thelin. We have little/no width and have played inverted all season, limited on options there. I also posted in my response to panda, he’s been given a huge challenge with so many factors in play, and he’s a limited coach/manager with very little leadership experience.

Team playing a different way than they did in Leven’s previous stints as caretaker. Not playing same tactics.

You have a point about 4 red in 5 games, both in playing with less than 11, and suspensions limiting selection, but also add the injuries to kneuster and Armstrong, and an off form keeper, all guys who have played significant minutes. plus losing aouchiche karlsson polvara and Clarkson, suddenly were quite limited in selection, especially in central midfield. Throw in the fact that afeez and Geiger are from another league/country who aren’t match fit and haven’t played in quite a while, and the disruption of the weather. He’s been given quite an assignment. in the past, leven has come in to a difficult situation, but this is significantly harder due to the above. I don’t think he’s good enough, but he’s certainly been given quite the challenge.

Based on what do you make that statement? I know very little but he sat on the bench as soon as Thelin left, and the other night was in the stands now that we have doc. Was he on the bench again today? Regardless, I don’t have an issue with that. But are you suggesting he’s picking the team, tactics etc?

Totally disagree. Ridiculous today. Why was Morrison starting? He’s not shown anything to suggest he’s good enough and we had a tremendous opportunity to build on Wednesdays great result. Instead we made needless changes. That to me is criminal, go with the players that started well against Motherwell unless we had injuries. Why start olusayna, even though he scored, why pigeon hole him at right mid? Obviously shinnie is injured so we needed one change. Unless Milne was injured there was no point in morrison. Plus that’s two games now afeez has managed just 45 minutes. As was mentioned pregame, go with sivert, positionally and leadership. We’re at the business end of the season and points matter, and are worth money. Very poor line up and while we started well, the red killed us. I just don’t understand leven’s approach today?? im not going to jump on VAR. we know it’s shit, and we got the benefit midweek. It is what it is. And I’m not blaming the ref. Both are out of our control, picking the team, the tactics etc are under our control. the team and club are a bit of a mess right now and I think the reaction to today’s result is justified.

Some doing for St Mirren tonight. Looked like Motherwell took their cup exit out on them. Only watching on phone coming home on train so maybe missed something but the red card for King looked unbelievable and no idea what ref or VAR saw.

Thought we were unlucky to lose today. Better team until we scored then seemed to take foot of gas and let them into game. Thought it was a penalty at the game but still to see it back on tv. Never a red card though. Second half thought we looked better team scored great goal and thought there was only going to be one winner then Dundee hit a wonder goal. Now to contradict myself a bit. Not convinced by Bratveit at all. Looks an awful keeper. Aremu is either massively unfit or shite I just cannot work out which. I am not convinced by Frame defensively. Looks okay going forward but that’s it. Geiger is also not match fit but can see a player there but until he gets fit he is going to give away a lot of fouls as looks yard off the pace of the game at the moment. Morrison should not be starting if any of the other centre backs are fit. He’s shite.

Wouldn't disagree but what I was trying to say (I'm an old guy so try to bear with me) was that I thought Gieger gave his all today even when he was gassed towards the end and that I thought that Shinnie wouldn't have produced the same intensity today as he did in midweek.

That's why I decided to finally take the forum plunge by signing up on here. I don't like confrontation or silliness hence putting all the fools I run into on my ignored user list and the other Aberdeen forum seemed to be packed full of antagonists

Nigel Garage on a jolly in the Indian Ocean (think that's where it is but I can't be bothered doing an internet search) how ridiculous. None of the right wing cranks who are making such a massive fuss over the Chagos Islands sketch had even heard of the place before and now it's all about helping the Chagosians. University of Wikipedia glecks.

Maybe, but my spidey senses are tingling I'm just hoping for a Kelt vs Seve's child confrontation on here at some point. There's a bit too much sensible discussion on here for my liking. Need some mentalists to complete the circle.

Lot to be said for only having two political parties. One of each side. Personally I'd quite like there to be only the one but you don't get away with that these days.

How it should be.

No, I thought he was RJ initially, but no, although I am sure he has posted previously with a different name. I clicked on AbMad last week by accident and RJ was still posting recently. I don't think he realises he is the last man standing.

A collection of utter spuds. They had the smoothest brains in politics

Suppose that's good news for the SNP and all nationalists. No split vote.

The Alba party don't have the funds to contest the upcoming Holyrood elections.

Just finished watching: Das Boot (Theatrical version) - very good or should I say sehr gut.

Im all for it provided they dont play politics by deciding to just propose things without costing and change free to 'free at the point of service'. Then perhaps balance things out making bus/ public transport 'not for profit' and use the extra revenew from Glasgow, Edinburgh etc to subcidise services in rural areas. Of course they could also break the bullshit and and say ' right things in the sick little nimby island have gone seriously downhill since 2008. You the voters have a choice. We carry on as we are with some people genuinly not knowing that the tax in yer pay cheque is for schools, hospitals, roads and so on (a real downer for me was a conversation I had with a much younger highly educated professional who had somehow gone through their adult life thinking income tax and national insurance was just something to pay the politicians.....well we had a tory government at the time so there is some merit) or we perhaps start emulating what those crazy Danes, Norwegians, Swedes etc have been doing. Start thinking as a society and not the Thatcherite ME ME ME If a politician offers a tax cut start asking what that extra £6 a year in yer pocket will actually cost you (a school, hospital ward, dentist, GPs fire station, police station etc) If a government tells you they will freeze council tax start actually ondering how the fuck yer local authority is going pay for things after 5 years of inflation. In fact just forget the whole thing. Country is fucked, everyone loves their own echo chamber so may as well throw ourselves in front of a local bus assuming they havent cut the service before you reach the pavement

Click on the three lines top right, then account, then ignored users, then type in the username you want to block. I might block you just for not knowing that.

What will be announced soon? Because Horneland hasn't signed any contract with the club, so unless you're aware of something we're not, you're just guessing.

He's not being helped by all the suspensions. Four red cards in five games is difficult for any manager to deal with. I think he needs a stint as assistant manager, I don't think he's the man to lead us long term at the moment. Appears the opposite of Thelin in terms of temperament, but that's not always a good thing - at least with Thelin he would keep a cool head, and at times make smart decisions during a game. Leven was losing it with the players when they were celebrating after making it 2-2. I praised him for that v Livi as there was a chance to take the lead before half-time - which we did - but I think with 10 men, and we'd been down to 10 for a while, you maybe just take a wee breather, and take stock of things. I think we got a bit scattergun after equalising and a lot of that came from the dugout.

He gets a bit irate about new threads. I reckon he just wants admin powers and then go full Trump when he does get them. Hitting us all with Tariffs. We'll not go over the 'AFC Stuff/Brewdog' thread debacle from November. I've not been brave enough to start any new threads yet, so fair play.

Second game in a row where we started well, creating chances, early goal and let's take it on from here - then we go down to 10 men and become a mess. Olusanya I thought did well in the first half, but the second he just stumbled over everything. We need a new manager poring over this, recognising what needs changed in summer - whether that's from afar or in the dugout. Is Horneland even watching our games, does he have any intention of taking us over? We need clarity on that very soon.