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Pleased for Root , remember where I was watching him get his first century for England. Managed to see tail end of this one. I was confused by the timing of it, a night day test Australia time had me completely confuddled. I see it like you do. McGrath the mouth saying it’s a mistake. Also meant to say - isn’t the Gabba normally the opening test? Am I imagining that? Why the change?

Simon? I’m confused as he’s 6ft? Would have taken him at one point. Cheap punt better than Ambrose. Was also a spell there that he should have been given a shot for Scotland. He was no worse than anyone else and actually scoring goals regularly. I always admire his work rate. This will be a controversial take, deep breath - pretty sure there’s an element of the guy getting looked down in part because of gingerism. Not all but I think it plays a part. i mean look at this post - “ugly little bastard”. Nae need.

Impossible to tell how this goes, and mitov symbolizes the team. Could be good could be piss poor. Results have been good for the most part recently, but I think we’ve been fortunate. At the same time I still think we can click and play well. 2-1 us, karlsson and lazetic

You can be sure that Dundee will be shelling his 6 yard box constantly to put him under the pump. That ugly little bastard Murray will be all over him.

Lucinda Williams - Get Right With God

Change in the table over a couple of minutes last night was gutting.

I thought Suman looked decent when saw him play for Cove last season but only saw him once for us this season which was in KDM game against Spartans where he made mistakes to give Spartans their first two goals. Don’t think Mitov is needing dropped yet anyway but from his time at Cove think Suman would be a good enough back up.

Paul Johnson - Get Get Down

Frustrating that in a minute we go from being 2 points off the hun to 5 again.

Another for the insomniacs Cruzeiro v Botafogo is on Premier Sport 2 just now.

*18 seconds with time added on

Back in the game. Thanks tlg1903 for dragging the corpse of Ajja out the river. Nobody listen to what that dick Ajjadeen says, he’s a total imposter.

I’m assuming VAR is about money and the league gets money to use it? I say that because I don’t see how anyone can argue it has made the game better. I’d argue we now have more debatable goals ,uncertainty on clear and obvious, delays, and the biggie for me, I don’t celebrate goals any more because you now have the ‘stress’ of a possible VAR check. I know decisions go for us and against us, and over time they may well even out, but VAR clearly has not improved the game or the fan experience. As I said, I assume it’s because of money that we have it and are stuck with it.

Definitely not calling for him to be dropped as Suman is not the answer. Just want him to pick his own game up again.

VAR hasn't cut out the mistakes that it was meant to, so by that metric alone, it has failed. Factor in the sheer nonsense of the time it takes to make a decision, which sucks all enjoyment out of the games, then it has been an unmitigated disaster. Outwith what we see in games involving either of the cheeks, I think mistakes by refs were part of the game and usually evened themselves out over a season. For me, VAR can get to fuck and when it reaches its destination, it can fuck right off again.

Too many moving parts for them to solve this easily. Combination of piss poor referees who aren’t paid a full time wage to do the job and then players who are hell bent on gaming the system every minute of every game without punishment makes competence and quality difficult to find. Add to that the cheap shit tech we have invested in and you are pushing water up a hill with a fork. What pisses me off is that VAR is basically a construct introduced to appease the big money investments in the game. Those who put their cash in are less and less prepared to throw the game to chance and want certainty in outcomes. They seem to have stumbled on exactly the opposite. Money has fucked the game.

Not as big a name here as he was in the States, where he was huge. Worked with a guy years ago who was a big fan of his music and tried to get me into him and other stuff like Styx, Boston and REO Speedwagon, but just not ever been my thing. The guy I worked with, I don't think I'll ever see a record collection like that again. Thousands upon thousands of LPs, Singles, CDs, Tapes and even Eight Tracks (I shit you not). Dressed like a tramp and had no other interests, bar his music. He was married with two kids, but his music still came first. He counted everything by the value of records. If he went out for a drink, each pint was the price of a single. If he bought a round, it was an album. Needless to say, he didn't go out much. When Fopp opened years ago and started selling CDs at about £5, the collection got even bigger. I discovered last year that he died around 2017, aged just 62. Would love to know what happened to his collection. Remembering his Wife, there was a good chance she burnt them. He gave me, amongst other records, the first four Led Zeppelin albums, when I was 16. All originals, one of them is supposedly quite a rare edition. Never played them as have never been my cup of tea. The only album he ever gave me that I liked, was the 49p tapes by Faust, because I like all that experimental shyte (his words). All that brought on by the Peter Framton post by Al.

The first two albums by German group Neu! were given an outing today. Sounded excellent. First time I'd listened to them in a while

Status Quo - Down Down

Paul Young - I'm Going To Tear Your Playhouse Down

Disagree. The boundary for clear and obvious is a person's eyes and brain working together to make the judgment. I can usually tell on the first replay whether a decision is correct. 2bh 10 seconds to make the call is generous and you could argue 5 would be enough. Regardless though it would stop the re refereeing of the game from the VAR official because they simply wouldn't have the time to. No big delays and yet still able to bail the ref out when they have had a mare is what fans wanted from Var in the first place. The Lazetic goal is actually a good example as it's a really tight call. It's certainly not instantly obvious whether he's on or off and var officials would soon learn to not even bother looking at decisions like that imo. They would instinctively know there's no point poring over millimeters because they would never have the time to come to a conclusive decision. If that was the case your prediction of fans counting down is unlikely 2bh (aside from the fact that to do so they would need to know when the var ref actually started watching replays... ) as on marginal calls the var ref would not need to use the allocated time to say "play on". We get it Rico, you don't like VAR. It's unlikely to be going anywhere though and getting the rid of the big delays would make it easier to live with.

Tammy wynette - I dont wanna play house

That's just as shite as VAR itself and solves nothing. Clear and obvious isn't defined by a time limit (because it cannot be defined by boundary). The first time the VAR cunts missed an incident that one of the scum was adamant was clear and obvious, but they couldn't get the camera angles in time, they'd change your arbitrary 20 seconds to 30 seconds, and so on. They'd rush to make a decision like last night's handball and just say it was handball because it hit the player's hand, and it's much, much quicker to spot handball, or "contact" rather than attempt to determine whether a foul has actually been committed. To be honest, it's one of the most cringey versions of VAR anyone could possibly think of. Imagine us all, sitting on the edge of our seats after every goal, perhaps counting down the 20 seconds with big grins on our faces, awaiting the result of our newly manufactured excitement. The players might do a huddle, Sky will give us a quick word from the VAR sponsors. As for most VAR calls, last night I sat in my seat with any excitement draining by the second. I genuinely couldn't have given a fuck what the outcome of any of the calls was by the time they were made. I don't need, or want, a manufactured "second cheer" after hearing the decision. I instantly assumed Lazetic was offside - as did the player - and didn't celebrate his first. None of this is removed by the 20 second rule. VAR is shite. It will always be shite. It is shite by definition. It cannot operate on subjective calls, and there aren't enough offsides in the world that could make it worthwhile for that either. I wish people would stop suggesting "ways to make VAR better". It's a completely flawed concept, which everyone knew in advance.

Whether fans blame him or not my feeling was when seeing him at ft on wed that I think he defo blames himself. What's most frustrating for me is I thought he looked far more like himself against Livi. If he has a poor game against Dundee then you could argue he should probably be dropped for a few games as his confidence will be shot.

As I said earlier in this thread Sweden implement VAR best. They simply don't recognise it