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My feeling is Hearts were taken on by Jamestown to provide a platform for players of potential but not good enough for their other clubs. Depressingly it's hard not to see this working out very well for Hearts

Nah, can’t find it. The search function on A/Mad is about the only thing that works on that site too. You must be mistaken. Oh, you worked that word ‘trans’ in there with a crowbar. Anything you’d like to share with the group?

Not one manager, and I include McInnes in this, since leaving us have done anything in football management that could be deemed a success that showcases we were wrong to punt them. That list includes first time managers, experienced managers who know the league and foreign managers who had a credible reason for being appointed. Robinson obviously falls into the same category as Goodwin in that he is an experienced manager who also knows our league but there is nothing in the slightest to suggest that when we do eventually get shot of him that he'll deliver any success that will deem our sacking of him hasty. The football on show has been shockingly bad, there is zero excitement/entertainment to be had watching us, his line-ups are baffling as are the vast majority of his substitutions. He hasn't gelled with the supporters and if anything he has lost a vast amount of fans who were willing to give him a chance when he signed on. The decision to cull so much of last seasons squad has came back to bite him big time as a very high % of his signings are nowhere near an improvement on some who departed and we now have lengthy contracts dished out to sub-standard players. Even if we do beat Hibs, and I don't think we will, it'll simply be an opportunity for Robinson to come out and say he's revitalised his squad and they are finally buying into what he wants from them and that we'll see an improvement moving forward with better performances and results only for things to come crashing down after the international break when we pick up a couple of points from 5 fixtures and we're back to square one. He kept us out of the play-off positions last year, I 100% believe that's where we were headed under Leven & Co, and for that I and many others are grateful but he has failed on just about every level possible as the manager of our club since the final fixture of last season and his time is up.

It’s not me making the bold claims. I’ll have a look for you

Thanks for making my point I would have said be a man and admit to what you said but no doubt that would have sent you off on your bizarre obsession with trans debate.

I remember you on A/Mad saying you were a huge fan of Mark Hately, Ian Durrant & that you can’t top the atmosphere on Old Firm day The post is on there somewhere, I can’t be arsed looking for it.

Classic Mason now as if I’m going to be bothered to trawl back through you posts to find it.

I don’t recall posting about that. If you’ve got a post, then copy and paste it. Jog my memory

Posted on AbMad though didn’t you quite regularly.

Stay, but more through principal than any thoughts on the guy personally. He simply hasn't had long enough to really prove himself. It's our own fault though, the fans and the board have shat the bed on managers ever since McInnes left and got rid of them way too early, now it doesn't matter who we get. A small, bad run of results and it's shoogly peg time once again. Rinse & repeat, we laugh at other clubs for exactly the same thing.

I wasn’t posting on here in 24

You mean like when you claimed if Trump won in 24 he would enact Project 2025 and there would be no more elections here in the states.

I wouldn't say I'm optimistic per say, just more optimistic than you. 2bh I think he will probably be gone before xmas even if we do beat hibs as our run after the Int break isn't easy. I think it's still possible (if not necessarily likely) to come together though because I've seen no sign of players downing tools and there has been play on display that has impressed me at times both defensively and going forward (comparisons to Alex Miller seem fucking wild to me 2bh as the squad clearly HATED him by this point in his reign). I also think recently we have been incredibly unfortunate at key moments. Utd's opener, Milnes pen against ST J, Penrice not getting a red, not getting the rub of the green against falkirk in the first half to take the lead and then Muller chucking a clanger all spring to mind as not Robinsons fault. You can't rely on luck of course but when things are going against you sometimes you need a wee bit of it to get through it.

I have voted go. I think most on here know my feelings on here. Didn't want him at all in the first place. Hoped he would succeed but he is never turning it round so he is never going to win me over. The signings have been awful. Bottom 6 squad at best. Only quality I see possibly is Mouloua. I just don't see the green shoots anybody pro Robinson sees. I have also said out loud do we write this season off and keep him and hope for the best i.e. finish above a playoff place but I honestly think there is a chance of us going down if we do keep him. His interviews and everything about him - there is nothing I like. All his promises when he came in. Seeing none of them. He is out of his depth here.

A fair comparison on the face of it but not when you scratch under surface I would say. John Mcglynn has been in charge of Falkirk for 4 years. He will have the coaching setup exactly as he likes it and the players that remained there are all fully integrated into how he wants to play thus able to help new arrivals integrate more quickly. This is not continuity that Aberdeen had when swapping over half the squad so it's not surprising to me that they have come together a bit quicker. Also I would add they have had a purple patch recently but go look how they started the campaign, their form was very patchy.

Show your working

No it isn't.

Every word of that is wrong. Well done

McGlynn at Falkirk managed a bigger squad turnover in the summer and lost more key players than we did and aren't doing too badly. Large squad turnover is a reality of modern football, but it doesn't help when we sign average SPL players from bottom six teams and supplement them with unknowns of varying quality, with none really standing out, bar maybe Mouloua. We have a huge squad of players and even with our supposedly crippling injury list, we are still pretty much able to replace like for like, position wise. It's not like we are looking to be playing Derek Young in the back line yet. I'd actually say injuries have helped us in a way as Cadden being out of the team is a good thing in my opinion. Everything about us on the pitch at the moment just feels wrong and for me it feels very much like when we had Alex Fucking Miller at the helm.

The guy before Washington.

Maybe get Ronald McDonald to stand. Just out of interest, who would you say was their last good President?

I think the Democrats will read the room wrong if they stick with that pair.

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He's replaced some young players who had potential but maybe weren't ready yet, with some young players with potential who aren't ready yet. He's replaced strikers who can't score with strikers who can't score. Our strongest defence probably doesn't include any of our new signings. Our midfield was stronger last season. Mouloua the only real upgrade I see, maybe Ronan and Smith IF he can get the best out of them, although I'd say on form Cameron better than both of them. We're talking about getting rid of players on big wages, but Olusanya has reportedly come in on big wages and now even Robinson isn't starting him much, likely due to a combination of not thinking he's playing well enough and also playing a different system than he had in mind at the start of pre-season. It's a bit of a mess. It's poor management. It's similar to the issues Robinson had at St Mirren. Rather than come to Aberdeen and sort us out, he's brought more problems from St Mirren that someone else will likely have to sort out. It's an easy excuse. We played two full backs far too high against Dundee United, shifted tactics about, took off a defensive mid, and left ourselves wildly exposed. I'm not sure the virus had that much impact. Out of interest - what have you seen that makes you optimistic it might come together?

Players that left permanently. Shinnie, Duncan, Mcintyre, Keskinen, Kjartansson, Mitov, Lazetic, Bratveit, Milanovic, Jensen, Geiger, Bwomono. Given the likely wages a lot of these players were on you can't make much of a case for keeping most of them on if you don't fancy them. You mention yourself the smaller budget further on and there was clearly a need to reduce the wage bill at this point so the players we got fees for Robinson likely didn't have a say in anyway. I was at peace with all their transfers 2bh. Shinnie would have been good to keep but he would have needed to take a wage cut and I couldn't see that happening to the extent it would need to given he would still be captain and captains are normally one of the highest earners at a club. Keskinen and Kjartansson you could make cases for but I was pleased with the fee we got for Topi 2bh as he was a frustrating player in red. I suspect the fuck off topi was probably leveled for poor decision making which plagued his game. Kjartansson is probably the one I would have liked to keep the most but he wanted to leave before Robinson got the job as I understand it. Out on loan we have Yenghi, Suman, Lobban, Bilalovic, Ambrose and Besuijen. Would have kept Lobban and Bilalovic myself but the other 4 had to go. So given all that you have about 16 players who needed to go for various reasons and I suspect the vast majority of them you don't pine for. I would say that's unavoidable myself and certainly not Robinsons fault. Could he have managed the turnover better? Maybe but he probably could have managed it worse too as it's a really difficult thing to do. As I said, I don't think he had much choice given the state the squad was in. It's not been that long since then, 5-6 games? and the squad has been seriously affected by virus and injury for at least half of those. As I said, I'm reserving judgement until the end of the year but I'm a little more optimistic it might still come together. Yeah but not conceding goals is the best platform to build your attacks on, especially when you are a work in progress. Can understand where you are coming from with your last sentence btw though I think there is scope for that to change