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They won't go down.

Further prove if it were needed that VAR has been introduced solely for the entertainment of the armchair fan.

Pretty sure the rules are that if the stadium has VAR capability and it’s on TV it has to be in place for the game. Assume Dunfermline won’t have it?

In fairness to them, they did qualify some of it around the role players have on team/defence etc. for example, Milne is there for positional awareness and clearing rather than ‘battling’. Agree, these stats are only a part of the picture (RIP Ebbe) and no surprise, just thought they were interesting…apologies, will try harder next time

I read somewhere that while our game in deepest darkest Fife won't have VAR the other quarter finals will? That's not right is it. It just can't be. Surely it has to be all games with it or all without. After all the game played with VAR is a markedly different beast to games played without it. That's one of my main objections to VAR. It's creating a two tier game. Football should be kept simple and be fundamentally the same at every level from Sunday morning pub games through to the top leagues. VAR absolutely blows that idea or at least the pretence of it clean out of the water.

They really are in freefall.

Spurs looking championship bound on tonight’s showing. 1-3 down to Palace at home. Down to 10 men as well.

The same way flu shots are, despite each form having been invented that winter. The mRNA vaccine had indeed been in the making for a decade. As far as I'm aware, it hadn't been through trials for much, or perhaps any, of those years. You wouldn't ordinarily expect a decade of trials for such things, I'm not sure that figure is relevant.

How could the vaccine have been years in the making when covid had only been invented a few months earlier?

I'd probably only single out Killie away as a game that I struggled to stay positive in this side of new year.

This may have been replied to already, but I’ll pull you up on this. The vaccine was years in the making, saying what you have shows you’ve no idea about how they’re developed (which is fair enough). It wasn’t magicked up like the anti vaxxers claim with all their froth. but also, fuck trump and Netanyahu.

I agree, but it would have been a disgraceful penalty to give, even on the current rules, and unfortunate because there would have been nothing he could have done about it. Just your use of the term fortunate in that context made it sound like a penalty was merited on the strength of their play. I think your overall point was sound, they were the better team, but it didn't need embellishing with what would have been an undeserved and fortunate penalty (rather than the other way round).

Not at all, I think it's a very reasonable and balanced point. Especially the bit about hindsight. I don't think that the Scottish government's approach to COVID was terrible, and my points are very much made with the benefit of hindsight. I think that the lockdowns were problematic, with hindsight, but I also accept that decisions were made in good faith. By that I mean that setting a precedent for lockdowns was problematic, and I can very much see a future where that power is used for illicit means. Also, I found the notion of "asymptomatic infection" as a vector for spread deeply troubling too (imagining a world where we're in perpetual lockdown because of the transmission of a deadly virus with no symptoms!). Vaccines weren't a disaster, other than the issues I mentioned (in my opinion, of course). Overall, I think the more troubling issues surround the fact that it became clear that we are a domesticated population who, in the majority, have zero control over the basic functions and needs of our lives. I was already in that way of thinking, but it really reinforced its position.

If the transmission was slowed, does that not lessen the burden on the NHS? Im still waiting to hear a downside for it

Not saying it was intentional but it does not have to be and with the current handball rule as it is, I think it was pretty borderline whether the ref would give it or not. Put it this way, if he did point to the spot, VAR would not have overturned it.

I can’t not post a new Trashcan Sinatras single. A wee bit overproduced for my taste, but will be good live when they tour.

Rico will no doubt come along and point out the flaws in my argument!

For once I disagree. There weren’t really clear benefits to vaccinating children, other than for their grandparents for instance. We vaccinated them to protect the rest of us. Isolated them to protect the rest of us. And we’re now seeing the price they paid. Had I been the one making the decisions I might have done exactly the same. Hindsight is 20/20.

No he wasn't. It would have been exceptionally unfortunate to have his hand ball deemed a penalty.

Then I don't think you're as virtuous as your putting down of others would suggest. You're right, vaccines didn't prevent transmission, that's the whole fucking point I've been making! Measles vaccines prevent transmission. You get 95% of the population vaccinated and you have protection, for everyone. Slowing transmission means that everyone that was going to get infected still gets infected (all other factors being equal), just within six months rather than three, for example. California's approach was exactly what you would do had you a vaccine that acted like measles. Your child and parents don't get the measles vaccine, then they can't come to school. Completely reasonable. That doesn't hold true for a vaccine that simply slows transmission, for very obvious reasons. That's because the California decision wasn't scientific, it was a failed attempt at social engineering. I guess we could dress it up as social science if it makes you feel better. By the time vaccination reached primary school children in Scotland, Omicron was well under way, and every single teacher at risk would have been vaccinated. You seem to be conflating two issues there which happened during COVID. Kids went back to school before vaccination was complete, so their vaccination was largely irrelevant by the time it would have come round. Teachers were put in a thankless position well before vaccination.

Not sure if you are having a giggle Bertie, but 'held our own'? Apart from the Nisbet header in the second half last night (and the penalty obviously), we have not come close to scoring in 3 hours of fitba? Celtic should have had 4 last night. Maeda missed a one on one with Mitov and Milne was awfully fortunate not to have his hand ball deemed a penalty. On Saturday, Hearts should have had 3 against us. Kabore missed a sitter early on as did Braga in the second half. Struggling to see how on earth you are working out that we held our own, unless you mean held our own hands over our eyes whilst watching? I certainly did that for long periods in the second half last night.

https://www.afcheritage.org/matches/match-report?id=3249

My first memories of a Cup game at East End Park was in the late 70s. I was in the main stand with my Dad (as I will be on Saturday). A solitary goal from Joe Harper put us through but my abiding recollection of the game was a constant stream of supporters being led out of the stadium by the police as it was all going off on the terraces opposite.

I would disagree with all of that but you’re right about cars. The vaccine didn’t prevent transmission but it certainly lowered the chances. Lessened the risk of long covid and reduced the severity of the symptoms. There was nothing to weigh up, no downside at all. You’re also putting teachers in a position. If I was one, I would’ve told them to ram it.

They were holders when we drew them in 68-69. The Saturday date at Pittodrie was called off due to the weather, so it was hurriedly arranged for the Monday evening, where it ended in a draw. The fixture backlog was so bad, that the replay was scheduled for the following evening in Dunfermline. Ally Shewan sustained a broken toe on the Monday evening, but just got the club doctor to give him an injection and he played as usual. Tough as fuck Proper Mannies’ left back. No fannies in our squad then. Davie Robb scored twice to put us through, unexpectedly, because we’d had a poor season (we finished 15th in an 18-club league, as I recall). We beat Killie 3-0 at Rugby Park in the quarter final after a 0-0 draw, but fucked up badly in the semi-final at Parkheid, where the dead zombie liquidated cunts of hell and several surrounding postal code areas gave us a 6-1 doing. As fresh in my mind as if it was yesterday, but I hivna a clue where my specs are.