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My first memories of a Cup game at East End Park was in the late 70s. I was in the main stand with my Dad (as I will be on Saturday). A solitary goal from Joe Harper put us through but my abiding recollection of the game was a constant stream of supporters being led out of the stadium by the police as it was all going off on the terraces opposite.

I would disagree with all of that but you’re right about cars. The vaccine didn’t prevent transmission but it certainly lowered the chances. Lessened the risk of long covid and reduced the severity of the symptoms. There was nothing to weigh up, no downside at all. You’re also putting teachers in a position. If I was one, I would’ve told them to ram it.

They were holders when we drew them in 68-69. The Saturday date at Pittodrie was called off due to the weather, so it was hurriedly arranged for the Monday evening, where it ended in a draw. The fixture backlog was so bad, that the replay was scheduled for the following evening in Dunfermline. Ally Shewan sustained a broken toe on the Monday evening, but just got the club doctor to give him an injection and he played as usual. Tough as fuck Proper Mannies’ left back. No fannies in our squad then. Davie Robb scored twice to put us through, unexpectedly, because we’d had a poor season (we finished 15th in an 18-club league, as I recall). We beat Killie 3-0 at Rugby Park in the quarter final after a 0-0 draw, but fucked up badly in the semi-final at Parkheid, where the dead zombie liquidated cunts of hell and several surrounding postal code areas gave us a 6-1 doing. As fresh in my mind as if it was yesterday, but I hivna a clue where my specs are.

There were not "clear benefits to children and society as a whole" though from a COVID vaccine. There were positives and negatives*. The positives were that 1 in every 200,000+ children would have been prevented from dying of COVID (and almost certainly have died from something else), and a larger but not significant number prevented from getting a debilitating illness. The negatives were the conflation of COVID vaccines with herd immunity vaccines such as measles, resulting in a reduction in uptake of those, along with a mistrust of vaccination more generally. I don't think Jason Leitch being wrong had a significant impact, no, hence Scotland's uptake of vaccines generally holding strong (with COVID shot at 2% among kids. I am one of the 90+% who have given their children all scheduled vaccines, which doesn't include COVID). The impact of California etc with their approach, has impacted the trust by allowing the extreme position a way in. We can see this with the significant reduction in overall vaccine uptake over there, and the spread of measles and such like that was previously largely dealt with. The guy in your town - aye, I do know the type - is almost certainly got a direct line to the states for all his vaccine news, and what your seeing is, in part, a result of unnecessarily authoritarian control by various states, and the subsequent backlash. There was no good science for that approach, it was a social engineering job, and the positives were outweighed by the negatives. *I believe, genuinely, that the negatives of car travel outweigh the positives. The number of deaths, injuries, and permanent disabilities caused by cars is of an order of magnitude greater than that of COVID. I believe that there are clear benefits to children and society as a whole in ending the car as the primary form of transport. I'm aware that it would be a fucking ridiculous proposal though.

Empire of the Sun, Spielberg film What a bag of shite. 4/10.

It'll be ten times better then. VAR is an absolute pox.

There'll be no VAR for this game, which is a surprise because usually it's a requirement for televised games at this stage of the competition. But, will add to the traditional cup tie feel.

The loon Hegseth. He's a real piece of work isn't he. Rivalling Trump, Netanyahu and Badenoch for the 'Most Odious Individual in the World' trophy. Who else remembers when Cock Sparrer used to sing "put 'em up against a wall and shoot 'em". Not sure why that tune came to mind. Totally unrelated.

Anyway, back on topic. Donald Trump is a nonce

Lot of boys on the bevvy in Edinburgh beforehand. Messy.

Does is matter if Jason Leitch was wrong though? There were clear benefits to vaccinating children, for them and for society as a whole. Parents refusing to doing so, for the most part werent weighing anything up. They were projecting their fears onto their children based on misinformation Now it’s open season and in some cases a complete cop out. There’s an anti vaxxer in my town who blames his 3 kids being a bit highly strung on the measles vaccine. You’ll know the type, a digital content creator who films himself in his car telling you how the world really works. There is zero evidence of the MMR jab being linked to this anywhere. What’s more likely is the fact he’s a fucking idiot, his wife is a fucking idiot, so the chances are that’s not going to skip a generation. Who’s to blame? Big Pharma.

I think anyone could have told you that without the stats! A midfield of Armstrong, Cameron and Geiger is mental for example. I'd be interested to know what counts as a duel. Whilst I'm not a fan of Geiger, he's not there to win duels necessarily. Aouchiche, Ramadani and Jack weren't particularly good at winning duels, but their positioning and coverage were excellent and thus interceptions were high, as well as just slowing attacks down or forcing errors by being in the right place. If Geiger could up his work rate significantly, he might just be able to give us that. Milne's stats look low, but if a ball is going to a striker's chest, then most of what is called a duel could only be won by ploughing through the back of the player, and so it's much better to just try and put him off.

Agree word for word. I'd also add that he's pretty good at assigning credit to Burrows and the rest of the commercial team for a lot of that stuff rather than claiming he did it all himself. Not perfect but better than many other chairmen/owners cutting about football these days.

I'm well aware of those anti vax groups and people like Andrew Wakefield being welcomed with open arms and wallets long before COVID. If we were both aware of them, then why wasn't the Californian state? I'm not filling in blanks or creating scenarios, I'm describing what actually happened. The anti vaccine groups got a foothold that wasn't previously accessible and launched their nonsense into the stratosphere. Exactly the same would have happened in Scotland had we taken the "unscientific" approach of California (in reality both approaches were unscientific, they were social measures). Instead, we actually had a very speedy and very high uptake of vaccines. My only minor criticism of Scotland's (the UK really) approach is that when it became very evident that the vaccine would never be enough to control the spread of the virus, that the advice should have changed to reflect the policy in all subsequent years of COVID vaccination (take it if you want, akin to the flu shot). There was, in my opinion, in most countries, an attempt to conflate taking the COVID vaccine with taking the measles vaccine (as an example). There was an implication (in fact it was stated on off the ball, no less, by Leitchy) that a form of herd immunity could be attained, that was clearly not tested nor validated by any research or subsequent evidence anywhere in the world.

Not all the credit, you’re right crowds do seem to have increased in general, but he does deserve some credit for it. Red Shed, sign for the Dons sessions, singing section, free U12 ST’s in family section, beer at the fitba, better fan displays and engagement - he’s done a fair bit, and even one of those things on its own is more than Milne ever did. I’m absolutely not giving him a free pass, and I totally agree he needs to stay right out of the fitba side as his vision and plan for that side of things has been a car crash - hopefully the appointment of Lutz is acknowledgement of that - but I cannot see a scenario where I’d ever see him as anything but a massive upgrade on the useless arsehole that went before him…

1) My comments are neither performative, trolling or phishing. Just my opinions and I comment for the same reasons as anyone else does on a forum. If you don't agree with them that's fair enough but please don't try to shut me down with your obviously toxic and passive aggressive snipes. I'm too long in the tooth to let it bother me. 2) I surely can't be the only one who can see we are a vastly improved team in recent times. Some of the passages of play are absolutely superb. Obviously we need to keep it up for the whole arc of the match rather than just short periods but that will come. 3) While it's true our improved performances haven't paid off yet in terms of points on the board surely no-one can seriously suggest we aren't a better side now than we were months ago. 4) I'm not touching on any particular point you raised but I want this put on record. We won't go down. We won't even come close to it. In fact I'm confident we will win if not all, almost all of our post-split games to finish either 7th or 8th. I'll let you get back to your moping. Whatever makes you happy.

Why do you keep saying the Scottish government kept schools open?

0 points out of 6. That was nowhere near Hearts first team and it’s the worst Celtic side I can remember. We’ve not won many points against the rest of them either. I know your turd polishing is performative but nobody is going to fall for it

There is no such thing as common sense. Most of our lives are just led by where we're willing to set out our boundaries. Mason thinks it was "common sense" (or scientific) to ban people's children from school, the Scottish government didn't, for example. Our responses to things are ultimately just an amalgamation of external influences. Your brother's cancer diagnosis has probably shaken him to the degree that he requires something to blame, or a reason for it. I can't imagine the trauma that that particular situation would cause, and its not irrational to find use in the irrational. Our lives are filled with irrational beliefs. Our economic system is predicated on infinite, exponential, growth for example. To the extent that very intelligent, professional, people argue over "the economy" and GDP, and are pressed on such matters without qualification by seemingly intelligent interviewers. All engaged in a game who's only purpose is the game itself. Every single person sent to [often meaningless] work to satiate it. That's not common sense, is it? Everyone I speak to thinks that plastic recycling is common sense, but I think it's an extremely destructive practice that actively harms the environment by design, and can never work. Who's common sense is correct? To me, the science around climate change is common sense, but the solutions presented to us as common sense are anything but, and are in themselves a form of denialism. The point I'm labouring is that seemingly "obvious", common sense policies and ideas surround us on a daily basis un-scrutinised, and often not even open for scrutiny. In such an environment, it's almost impossible for there not to be conspiracy theory and actual conspiracy. Everyone would have believed that there could be a trafficking ring at the very top of US society, but yet nobody believed it. At this point in our system's life, when it's creaking and visibly falling apart, it's anything but irrational to see conspiracy everywhere. It's a completely normal response. One person's vaccine conspiracy is another's trafficking or recycling conspiracy.

Bottom line is in recent games we've pretty much held our own against celtic and hearts. Two of the three challengers for the league title. Things aren't nearly as bad now as people are making out. I don't get what comfort people are taking from being continually negative about our performances but it's so bloody tiring. Mood hoovers are toxic and they need to cut it out. The Spanish have a good word, ANIMO!

Not particularly specific to last nights game but was listening to the HWG Podcast this week and they did some interesting analysis on winning duels from the Hearts game. Talked about how we have tried to build a squad of technical players when physical battles is increasingly the dominant trend in the premiership. Even Motherwell (aka Ajax circa 1973) are battling to win possession. Stats for duels won (aeriel and ground) at Tynecastle; Milne 1/9 Morrison 9/13 Nilsen 9/12 Geiger 2/12 Hearts 55 Dons 45 This is a big issue for us and our ability to control games, breed confidence and create platforms to build on for the front line.

You’ve created a scenario there and filled in all the blanks to suit it. The extremist anti vaccine groups were already there long before Covid. Like I said, it was Christmas Day for them when it appeared. When people unsurprisingly started doing their own research, it was their shite they were reading for the most part. If everyone had did their bit instead of saying ‘well actually, I read on mumsnet that the local authority next door is opening their pub a week earlier & it’s unfair that I should wear a mask in Morrisons as it’s against my civil liberties and I read that in Sweden schools are open and actually he NHS isn’t overworked because I saw a TikTok of some nurses dancing……..’ We all have our own individual experiences of COVID and for me, nothing rips my knitting more than people being drama queens about masks, vaccines etc while folk had to isolate and people downplaying it. It’s a bad flu, it’s only old people that died etc. On the subject of schooling, nobody is ever honest about it, so it’s not a debate worth having

Looks like Nisbet may just sneak int double figures come the end of the season. We do need a few more from him though.

Then you are indeed as bad as those you criticise. Probably worse, as you attempt to maintain the moral high ground at the same time. My point, when saying: Is that by forcing people unnecessarily to get vaccinated, you create the conditions for extremist anti vaccine groups to thrive (which should have been very obvious to you if you were "years ahead of the curve on anti vax"). Similarly, if you lump people together - as you did - by calling them anti vaxxer, as opposed to anti COVID vaccine, you create the conditions for extremist anti vaccine groups to thrive. Thus, the response in California led directly to the predictable rise in anti vaccine shite. Because banning people's children from school was not "based on science", nor intelligent (hence why it didn't happen in Scotland and most other places who took a similar approach to COVID). Obviously, I think you're just generally at it, but your lack of middle ground and thoughtfulness makes you appear like a teenage activist. Or a troll. Or an idiot. I suspect neither are correct.