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You seen the conditions on Jupiter? Giant ball of gas at -110C. I know where I would rather be!

Nobody in their right mind would want to live in Masontown

Sounds fair. Where do I send my deposit?

Masontown will have a universal basic income, billionaire Guillotine lottery, free Gitanes, no Huns, no pool tables in pubs and the population of Clydebank will be exploited to the fullest to maintain our citizens way of life

And what a lovely city in a lovely location it is. If Masontown doesn't get off the ground, I might look into Kiwi visa options!

Really going to need legs in midfield for this. It’s probably one of the few things the huns seem to get right in their current guise. If we roll out Shinnie, Geiger and Armstrong I can see us getting overrun. Hopefully Naderi plays up front.

See this is partly the problem. What does "less carbon heavy" mean exactly? It's just a bollocks term that gives the veneer of sustainability, when there's not a single sustainable city on earth and never has been. That you outsource absolutely everything to poor people the world over, and launch your subsequent rubbish into the soil and sea (via the washing of recycling or landfill) is carefully omitted from the middle class utopia. "The concept makes so much sense", until you note that it is the most expensive place to live in NZ. That those who are actually responsible for the running of the leafy 10 minute utopia can't actually live there, and are either shipped in or out at the end of the day, or just not invited in in the first place. Because it actually makes zero sense at all, and is just a wonderful professional middle class disguise. If you actually included those that keep the city running in the equation then the whole thing would collapse for obvious reasons. Implicit in the design of any city is the exploitation of those who don't get to participate in its riches. I'm obviously a massive hypocrite, before anyone asks. I'm just responding to the initial point about 15 minute cities really. There is an attitude by most middle class people that scoffs at those stupid people who question the obvious idylls of 15 minute cities (those idiots and their conspiracy theories). Yet when you puncture the surface of their superficial ideas, it seems that most haven't actually, really, considered what a 15 minute city (or even just a city) is. Who gets to be in on it, and who doesn't. Why it can never expand to everyone, and why it's really not much different to what we have already. The undoubted benefits of no cars (although for some reason they always seem to want to keep roads?), and low pollution, which in our childish zero-sum economy means that someone somewhere is breathing your fumes and inhaling your plastics for you. In reality those that scoff at the conspiracy theorists have really just insulated themselves within their own bubble, where everything seems to be bloody obvious and common sense too.

Wellington, where I work (not live anymore) is probably more of a 10 than a 15 min city. Everything you need is within walking distance of the city centre a vice versa. The concept makes so much sense and there certainly isn’t anything that would stop you from leaving. Apart from the lack of international flights fuck you air NZ. Anyway, given the way the world is going, it provides the perfect opportunity for a less carbon heavy day to day existence. Just need to those petrol lobbyists to do one.

With expectations for Ibrox low I am really just looking for more fight from the team and a vast improvement in positioning /reaction to attackers when defending against set pieces and crosses/balls coming into the box. Hopefully Robinson has been drilling this into them this week and we see the benefits in the following games (when I will be expecting clean sheets and 3 points )

But then, certain groups of people (and not always the same groups) can look at virtually any set up with cynicism, as no matter how idyllic any system appears there will ultimately be those who get shafted In our leafy suburb I'll happily pay an extra penny or two in the pound in taxes if it means those on lower incomes have access to quality services, health care and education. Bring on Masontown (name needs some work). I'm in.

And nor should you. But in the context of why some people might look at the concept with a degree of cynicism it's quite relevant

It’s an interesting concept that I’ve heard discussed here, specifically when I was living in LA. The cynics obviously say it’s going to be more govt control, social monitoring, you can only go to certain places, use certain services, work in certain places, and it becomes a type of socioeconomic segregation. You stay in Beverly Hills, stay in Compton etc. and it becomes divisive. Also makes me think of Total Recall! Been talked about more of late with Mamdani in NYC, although his recent tax proposals and the push back may limit his progress.

I don’t go around not enjoying things because of exploitation. I get the pish ripped out of me by my employers too. The boy rolling the Gitanes should join a union

The cigarette brand? A lovely vision. Especially the Clydebank part. The problem is that for every one of those things that you want, there will be somebody involved in its provision who can't have those things because they're busy making sure you can have them. It's an exploitative model. Even with (especially with) your favoured socialism. I guess you wouldn't have to think about that though so it'll be nice.

An affordable public transport system, leafy car free streets, cafes, newspapers, Gitanes, stronger community, never stepping foot in Clydebank again

Possibly. What beautiful image did the fifteen minute city conjure in your mind?

You’re a kinda cup half empty kinda guy

During lockdown, we weren't allowed to leave our localities. There are gated communities all over the place, and it doesn't take a huge stretch of the imagination to see how they could become social engineering projects, or used to control people. Just as CCTV could, or those weirdo doorbells. The environmental movement has been hijacked at every single point in its growth, there is absolutely no reason to think that fifteen minute cities wouldn't either. The concept is reasonable, but the important part is who is implementing it and for what purpose. If it exists within the existing economic model, then you can be absolutely certain that Nestlé or some other cunt will effectively own your fifteen minutes of freedom, and you'll be tied to them for all your needs (you won't literally be tied, of course, it'll be just inconvenient enough that you'll make do with Nestlé because Unilever next door is 30 minutes of walking). I guess it's just another form of domestication. But if you can't see the walls of your prison, then it'll probably feel quite nice.

Yep - Morrisons on King Street is a personal favourite of mine. Free city centre parking, what’s not to like!!

I'm sure the cancer/medical thing came from a journalist posting on Twitter. The club didn't exactly show itself in a positive light, throughout our manager search, which only fuelled the shyte spread about. They made are arse of it in my opinion.

Correct, the law up here protects you from it in the most part. They could enforce it, but it is usually just a fishing exercise to see who bites and pays. The feckers at the Berryden retail park are bad for this.

I find their claim that it is a way to control the masses and limit freedom of movement hilarious. There aren't gates and electric fences. You can leave you know!

Adelaide is a 15 minute city. Stay for 15 minutes and you've seen the lot!

Hell yes.

He's not exactly going to come out in an interview and announce he has medical or personal issues, and put off any future employer from hiring him! The "cancer" comment came from another poster who was putting two and two together, but the "unforeseen circumstances" were certainly more than him accepting a punditry gig at the World Cup.