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Both are young lads and will improve. If Milne had someone alongside him barking at him and telling him to go through the ball, he'd soon learn how to use his size and strength properly. Knoester doesn't do that part sadly. A preseason to work on his overall fitness and strength will do him good, and a leader at the back in the door and he'll be an asset. Molloy is okay as a squad player, backup for left centre half and left back. He's very good at one on one's and positionally pretty decent. He definitely plays within himself as you say, and probably does himself a disservice by not being braver on the ball. Jack MacKenzie was similar until his last couple of seasons. Both are that sort of in-between type, where they aren't fast enough and brave enough to be the overlapping fullback and not big enough to be the centre back that they could be by shying away from the work required. Molloy would benefit massively from being told that he's never going to be a centre back because of his physical attributes and to work his arse off to make the left back spot his own. That will involve him really upping his fitness so he can do the yards up and down the pitch, and working on his bravery on the ball (because he's not a terrible footballer), taking on men and crossing. I don't think he's a worse footballer than MacKenzie was at 23. He's just got to do the work. If we're keeping Gyamfi then I'd let Molloy go though, it has to be one or the other. I'd probably prefer Molloy, but Gyamfi would allow us to see more of Frame because he's always injured!

Molloy for me is also afraid to take responsibility and play a forward pass- too often turns and plays square pass or. Back to the goalie accept that sometimes there is little movement but seems afraid to take responsibility Milne just looks afraid - and I really wanted the loon to do well, but doesn’t have the heart

Robinson will get time and I haven't heard anyone having a go at him at games, as I'd say near 100% of us know he inherited a shower of shit. There is an element that didn't want him and I'd include myself in that, but he is here and I can't fault him so far, bar some of his line ups have been WTF, but we were safe, so didn't matter. In Scotland, it doesn't take a lot to go from the bottom six to the top six and vice versa, so a couple of good signings could go a long way to remedy things for next season. I don't think we could be much worse than we have been this season, but this club of ours do like to do things the hard way, so who knows.

The One Hit Wonder in 1983 from Orange Juice "Rip It Up" (and start again) is the most accurate song associated with this shower of shit. As others have said thank fk that season is finally over. I just fear that there is not long enough between now and start of the LC group stage for Robinson to get the major overhaul done, and have a vastly improved squad ready to go. But we live in hope (it is what we do) Lower our expectations, hope for the best and be prepared for the worst. Here's to next season and the only way is up ........................................... is it

Thank the lord!! Glad to see someone else seeing what I’ve been seeing for ages. Not big enough, not physical enough, not good enough for this league. The amount of folk I’ve also seen online today saying he should stay is as baffling as it is worrying. We seem to have a lot of fans that don’t know what a defender looks like. Totally agree on the comments on the defence, Milne & Robinson too…

Motherwell and Falkirk will likely weaken for the reasons you mentioned. They are realistic targets. However, we are miles behind Hearts right now. They have Bloom's investment, a very good recruitment model, and their budget will be bigger than ours this summer. They expect to lose players - the model is to replace them. We're basically hoping Hearts drop down a level because that's more realistic than us rising to theirs in one transfer window. At the moment it's difficult to see us going into next season stronger than them. For two seasons in a row we have finished behind a Dundee United team managed by Jim Goodwin. It's actually a pretty wild suggestion to say that "we expect top three" when we only just avoided the bottom three. As Robinson pointed out, we've been bottom six in three of the last five seasons. We've finished top three once in eight seasons. He's being realistic because he's seen the budget he has to work with, and it's not a top three one.

All good points, but I also think it’s fair to add, how many of these teams are consistent year to year? And how many of their better players (and managers) will be there next season? In 2024-25 Motherwell were 8th, hearts 7th, united 4th. Hibs dropped to 5th this season, obviously utd dropped. Other than the old firm, everyone else it’s year to year, and you can only speculate for the future. At the same time, both rangers and Celtic have huge summers ahead too after abnormal years for them. Maybe Celtic pick another Nancy! Rangers are average right now. hearts is an interesting one. Much like us who hit the jackpot with Rama and miovski, who is to say if hearts replace summer transfers with like or better players? I think they may do well in the summer, but only time will tell. They also have grabbed the attention, shankland braga devlin kyziridis, they may well get attention in the summer and move on. I also have to think both Mcinnes and askou will get attention and potentially move on this summer. as for Motherwell, they could lose a bunch of players this summer, falkirk too, but don’t have the funds to spend well, hard to replace those who move on. fuck knows what we’ll look like next season, we could see 11 new players starting in 8 weeks! You are right that third may be out of our reach next season, but it’s where we all expect to be and any dons manager who speaks otherwise will be looked at negatively.

If you have time look up Miami’s second goal from tonight. I know it’s the MLS but football being played by Messi is immense. 38 years old but still playing some great stuff.

Maybe long term. But not next season. Robinson is right to say top six for now. A very good Motherwell team just finished fourth. An impressive Falkirk were sixth. They, and Hibs, are our immediate targets. There will be comparisons with Hearts - but they had a good squad last season, but the wrong managers in Naismith then Critchley. Shankland, Halkett, Devlin, Baningime, etc weren't bad players, just under performing. There was always a feeling a better manager would get more out of them. And then their recruitment added gems like Barga, Kiziridis, and a few others. We're not in the same boat. That's why the criticism of Robinson is harsh. He has a far bigger job than the one McInnes walked into last year. Now Hearts might struggle next year due to European football, although squad wise they look like they can cope with that better than the previous teams who made it to the groups. Also, they might not even have group football, it is possible they could lose qualifiers in all three competitions. So a weakened Hearts might just mean third for them. Hibs will be interesting. They actually would improve with a better manager. Again, we have more to do in summer than them, and it's not like we have a bigger budget than them to play with. Honestly, unless we have a superb transfer window, we'll struggle to be above fifth. Fourth would be a very good season. Top three would really be some effort.

Messi still some player. 1-0 Miami.

Inter Miami v Portland Timbers on Apple TV just now. New Miami stadium looks nice although the commentators just mentioned Miami have not won there yet.

Hearing a little criticism of Robinson, think it’s really harsh to judge or put him down. The guy came in to an awful situation, terrible team on a terrible run. And he kept us up with a few points and a few wins. We don’t play overly well but I don’t think the wins and games we didn’t lose were a brutal watch. Actually pleased robinson saw the shit of the last two games, clearly players who aren’t good enough playing or know they are already leaving. Either way, proves they shouldn’t be here and helps provide clarity. Just hope we can offload some contracted players. huge questions of recruitment the last couple of seasons. You can only coach the players we have, and he did that. Summer is massive, as has been the case in previous summers, an abundance of signings needed. I certainly hope Robinson has Aberdeen ambition and not st Mirren ambition. We are not a top 6 club, we expect top 3. I think given our budget that’s fair. Have said before we build around certain players but sounds like Mitov could be gone, plus does Knoester have another major injury? Who do we actually have that’s a legit starting 11 player??

Exactly. It’s bizarre. You win the league and you’re angry??

Trump?

Sad news. Sylvia’s mother just called to tell me this news.

There was a mob of ticketless fans already outside. They left before that crowd grew larger - from fans without tickets descending on Parkhead, and/or from fans leaving the stadium. Whether they were attacked or not is inconsequential. Thousands of fans piling onto the pitch and running right up to you to goad you - scream and swear at you - you're going to feel unsafe. It's fair to presume you are at risk of being attacked. And, I've heard accounts from Hearts fans I know - not exactly shrinking violets - who have said it was a nightmare when outside the stadium and as unsafe as they've felt leaving a game. What is bizarre about the whole thing is - why the hell are Celtic fans so angry anyway? When Aberdeen won the cup, I was full of joy, wanting buy the whole world a beer. It never once crossed my mind to run on the pitch, scream abuse at Celtic players, go fight anyone with a Celtic top on, or go surround the Celtic bus leaving the stadium. It's like Celtic have won so much that they've gone beyond being happy, and for them it's more about hating anyone who dares deny them their right to win everything. *Not all Celtic fans of course. I say that because there were many of them who were gracious when Aberdeen won the cup.

Keskinen is like Olasanya (and McLennan) in that his feet are behind what his brain is telling them to do. Milne at WB was terrible and cost us the first goal, his CB performance wasn't any better. Didn't hear any criticism of Robinson in the stands today, maybe it's a social media thing.

Seriously. Thought that was odd too. Obviously I could be very wrong but it makes me wonder if players were attacked. Or was it just Celtic fans overly excited and enthusiastic in close proximity of hearts players who took offense. Don’t see why they would be in danger.

Why did Hearts run away straight after the game? Nobody was going to attack them in the dressing rooms.

I take away my initial prediction that Robinson would last until the end end of next season. He'll be gone by christ mas

The League Cup group stage draw is 27 May and will be televised, so get that in the diaries. As for today. Molloy is shite, I don't know why people are so keen to give him a chance. One of the goals, he gives it away, gets back into position, then is outjumped because he can't jump, something that has been evident for some time, and no amount of time will fix that. Milne surely is one of the guys Robinson alludes to when he criticises the lack of fight and desire? Devlin has that, but isn't the same player he once was. Our defence is hopeless. The midfield three at times today actually played some decent stuff. Keskinen I thought looked okay more central - he'll battle in there and his through balls are better than his crossing. Robinson - I don't get the criticism of him this early. He's got more out of this group of charlatans than anyone else has, and more than I thought possible. He's saved us from the ignominy of a play-off. Will judge him next season.

Looking like West Ham are done. Some goal for their consolation.

Finished 3-1 to Newcastle Given the current goal difference Spurs effectively require one point from their last two games to send The Hammers down

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