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I see Sheffield Wednesday got their second win of the season today to finish the season on 0 points.

With Mowbray back as chief scout I'm hopeful raiding St mirren for players won't be on the cards this summer 2bh.

I won't be satisfied that we won't be in the play-offs until even Rachel Riley can't work out how it is mathematically possible. I remember Hibs. They thought they would be safe and then they pulled off the ultimate Hibsing.

Keskinen has got worse since we signed him, he's probably one of these players who only plays well in a good team.

I’d like to see what Aremu can do when fully fit with a proper Robinson pre season under his belt. Juries out, but he was very good first half last night then fell out the game cause he’s not fit enough. Agree totally on Knoester. Good footballer but not suited to this league. I’d probably keep him as he’s a good option but we need 3 new CH’s for next year. Not having a go, genuinely interested in what exactly you see in Milne? He’s not that young, at 23 you should really be an established first team player if you have anything about you, he’s terrible in the air for a boy his size, lacks physicality and aggression for a boy of his size, he’s not great technically, his distribution is poor as is his positioning and reading of the game. Apart from that… Gogic isn’t by any stretch a long term fix, but he’s miles better in this league than anyone we’ve got at the back just now. Genuine 7 out of 10 every week. I’d have him as he’d improve us at the back immediately. We’re not fixing all our issues in one window so we need some solid experienced proven SPFL pros to help with the turnaround, and he ticks that box for me…

Keskinen is a regular international player, he’s significantly better than Maclennan. He’s been inconsistent but there’s definitely a player in there. He’s one of the few players whose work rate doesn’t drop and keeps going if things aren’t going his way, that alone makes him worth persevering with I think. Milanovic is the opposite, one failed attempt to take on a defender then he’ll give up and stop trying.

I think it’s so hard to tell, because good players thrive with good players around them. And we have very few dominant good players who bring the best out of others. I’d put my money more on knoester than Milne, what if we had a legit player alongside knoester? It’s tough to find the afeez position. I didn’t rate Ryan jack, obviously some did, I thought willo flood was excellent but not everyone’s cup of tea. I’d keep afeez but try to find a starter here, the two can rotate as needed. That position gets booking and suspensions, plus I do see us having injury issues with afeez. I like Geiger but I don’t think he wants to stay. He’s an outspoken guy who had issues with squad talent at his previous club, just don’t see him patient with our squad building. Plus it’s debatable whether we can actually afford his wages by the sound of things. We need to sign two center mids as well as the holding mid. Armstrong isn’t the answer, neither is Cameron. Not a glamor signing, but what type of mid is O’Hara? time to cash in on topi, not good enough. Said it a few times now, but he’s no better than Connor McLennan. Cash him in and try to upgrade. liked your milanovic comparison with hedges. Given he’s under contract, I think we give milanovic some time. But we still need to sign two new starting wingers.

Agree with this. I have a real worry that Robinson will see Aremu as a starter next season and that will dictate the way we set up to a large extent. He's a bottom six player IMO, unless he has a very good preseason. Knoester is a good footballer, but I don't think he suits this league, and he definitely doesn't suit bringing through a young player like Milne. I'd happily see us stick with Milne if we were getting a big, experienced defender alongside him, as I think that he could develop into a really good defender. Knoester is good positionally and on the ball, but he doesn't really organise the defence or clear everything in his way to win the ball. Not sure who could do that, but I'd stay well clear of Gogic, who'd be a Milne replacement rather than accompanying him. Morrison is the same issue, we don't have the space to develop two.

It happens consistently against us because manager after manager refuses to set up properly at set pieces. Honestly think the last manager that took it seriously was Jimmy Calderwood

The only players from last nights team that I would want next season as first team are Nisbet, Geiger and Frame. Aremu, Knoester and Armstrong could still do a job for us depending on who plays beside them. The rest offer next to nothing. The sad thing is the most likely out of all that will be Geiger away and we will be stuck with Olusanya and Milanovic.

I can imagine there were one or two high points as well Nothing will ever convince me though, that theres a significant amount of them that preferred it before the cash

And if they win the league who can blame them 2bf

Disappointing to draw after being ahead twice but overall I thought that was a decent point. We were really good in the first half and Geiger impressed me for the first time. Livi were obviously far more of a threat the second half but there was element of fortune with their first and some ping for the second. If we had snuck a winner we would have been worth it. I'm honestly not sure there is much point in judging our style of play and individual performances too much at the moment though, we are in a slog out the last few games then go lick our wounds in the summer scenario. @Rico re Shinnie I did hear mention up here at the start of the season that he might be coming along the a96 this summer and that both County and Inverness were interested. I doubt County would be an option now but his wife is from Inverness and I believe has always wanted to come home once he stops playing.

A pal of mine is a big city fan. He said to me not so long ago that you can get a bit bored of success but there's has been some epic moments along the way.

Australia A league player of the year my Arse I recall on AbMad (RIP) i was getting a hard time from fellow posters for writing the boy off after seeing him in a dons shirt for the first time and after 30 minutes I knew straight away he was a fkn imposter of a football player. how the fk he ever won that award will remain for ever as an unsolved world mystery should never ever pull on a dons shirt ever again. oh and back on topic that pish last night was just another eye bleeding reminder of how much work lies ahead for Robinson and staff. good luck with it all as you are going to need it

I believe Hearts paid less for Braga AND Kyzaridis combined than we paid for Keskinen alone. Sums it up perfectly really…

His biggest issue is the physical side. If he can get more power, strength and running he has the ability to be an asset. Hedges was gash in his first season for the Dons, but spent the summer working on his fitness and returned a very good player. Milanovic has technical abilities, definitely, they're just nearly invisible because he's got the physical attributes of a teenager making his debut in Scotland. That results in him being frightened to get the ball and timid in general. He's a player that could certainly be useful with a lot of work. He'll never be like Morris, because he doesn't have the pace, but he could be the strong, direct, runner through the middle that Hedges was. It just depends on how much time Robinson is willing to spend on him, and how much the player is willing to work. I have my doubts about both those things.

I quite enjoyed my trip to Livi great company good banter too much rum 2 goals most I've seen all season and the fans were quite upbeat after the game and players got a clap Onwards and upwards won't be back there anytime soon Oh and a lift and McDonald's on the way home what's not to like

I loved Man City back when they were a football club. It’s a crying shame what happened to them

Our defence really hasn’t put a shift in on the whole defending or scoring front this season. Also, our first OG of the season.

in the a-league, he was always an inverted winger. Cut in all the time and had good levels of success but my memory was of him either shooting or passing, not crossing. He was genuinely thought of (by Aussies) as the next big thing for them but it’s not happened. Probably the wrong league for him in all honesty and now he’s broken.

As mentioned above, I got the 78-85 book collection at Xmas and just love it. Frightening how much of the stickers and books I remembered. For some reason, it was always Man City players that I remember most from them. Steve McKenzie. Paul Power, Joe Corrigan, Tommy Caton, Tommy Hutchison and on and on Would struggle to name a current Man City player, but well versed on the early to mid 80s ones.

A favourite of my Ma's. We were allowed to turn up Top of the Pops when this came on, which made a nice change from the usual 'turn at shyte doon!' Anyway, back on topic. Little Anthony and the Imperials - Tears on my Pillow

You can buy the complete set from 78 - 93 in one book. It’s strange that I can remember the Peter Shirtliff sticker clear as day, yet struggle with what happened yesterday

Certainly was In fairness May 1980 was even more special as it was the first time I was to witness us win the league. I even went to the game sober in order to ensure I remembered every moment. By the time the May '84 one came around, dare I say it, it was becoming routine to win things Far more drink involved in the '84 one though