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There's not a single part of what you wrote there that is even close to being true. So we need someone "up for the fight" and "able to motivate"? You mean like a Barry Robson? Or a Jim Goodwin? Or a Scott Brown? All three were part of the last three permanent management teams - Robson was part of all three actually. Yet we're blaming Shinnie for not being able to motivate? If Nilsen is such a great motivator, how the hell did we go three months without a win?

Good discussion. When I posted I was not criticizing Shinnie. I’m a big fan and still think he has a lot to offer. Thought he was very good early season and showed he still has it. It just appears that under JT sivert will be preferred, and I think palaversa is starting to have greater influence in games. I rate palaversa, big strong physical mobile and technical. Just think shinnie has become the odd man out, but certainly see shinnie playing regularly and rotating, especially with the age of him and sivert. however, I think a captain has to be one of our best players, and a leader. Starts every game. Certainly hesitant to make sivert captain as he’s old too and will he rotate. I like his leadership and the way he plays, but thought he disappeared for a month or so for whatever reason, that concerns me as a captain can’t do that. RE tobers and palaversa as captains, like them both a lot as players, but do they have leadership qualities? I feel shinnie is a good leader, much by passion and effort/by example, but that’s not the only way to lead.

Making the move to the southern hemisphere, smart kid.

Because shinnie can't motivate the team in my view . He's not used to winning and accepted mediocrity through the last few managers tenures. We need a new mindset for me and whilst nilsen may not always be Pele, he's always up for the fight which is exactly what we showed last weekend for the first time in a long while.

4-0 full time

Leicester getting a doing off Brentford. 3-0 down after less than 30 minutes.

Aye. Going to work for a bit in the morning in office across from Waverley then head up. Strong believer in not changing a winning team so would be happy to see same starting 11 on Saturday although would not be too unhappy if Devlin was to start and Jensen moved into midfield for either Okkels or Gueye. Killie’s away form is not good and we are due them for that doing on Boxing Day so hopping for comfortable home win but expect McInnes to try and shitfest his away to a point. In late train then swift walk to ground. Y pint then train back to capital. 2-0 Nisbet and Keskinen

@Jute you thinking about this fixture yet ?

It’s an interesting watch, just interesting to see what lengths she went to

From our perspective, selfishly, yes. I was meaning from the point of view of the young lad looking for game time. We've essentially signed him for a two week stint, but he has to stay for the remainder of the season. Most other positions on the park, it would be fine, but centre half is fairly unique for an outfield position, in that you generally want a pairing playing 90 minutes each week (unless there is a build up of fixtures). Milne has barely kicked a ball all season, and he plays at centre half and right back. I guess as long as we've been clear that he was here as backup, that's okay, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was under the impression he'd be getting minutes. As I said previously, too, I'd like to think that he isn't getting any minutes when Milne is back (unless they both are).

How has the last couple of years proven that? I don't understand the rush to sideline a 33 year old Graeme Shinnie in favour of a 33 year old Sivert Nilsen. Nilsen has had just as many, if not more, poor performances than Shinnie. I'd say the improved performances have come from Palaversa improving, which has taken the load off of Shinnie & Nilsen. I would think the natural successor as captain will be Tobers or Palaversa in 2-3 years time (should they stay beyond their current deals).

Mocking the afflicted

Chances are Molloy won't play again this season, at least not until the split, so having Dorrington as back-up (especially with Milne not fit and Rubezic away) isn't the worst thing.

I've heard he's being lined up for a summer move in the winter.

If you believe all you read in the rags, then McCrorie is being lined up for a summer move to Crystal Palace in the summer. Players don't move from the Championship to Premier League for buttons and we hold a sell on percentage, so another shit load of cash potentially coming our way

I'm all for sivert being skipper. He sets a standard for work rate and fight and will bollock those not up to expectations. With shinnie on the pitch he takes a back seat. I mean why the hell did he swap the arm band with shinnie for ten minutes.? Shinnie is a grafter but he's not a leader and the last couple of years have proven that. As he ages the physicality is taking a toll as he's not the biggest and can be swept aside in some games. I'll admit that Nilsen has had some sticky games but he looks to be back to himself and he's the man for me to get the boss' message across and the man who controls the tempo. Either shinnie has to move on or accept a lesser role in the squad. I'm not sure the latter would make for a good dynamic. I'd prefer to see Polvara get time as the third midfielder. That said Nilsen probably needs replaced season after next as he slows down.

Was it a good watch though?

Helping Israel commit genocide is one thing, lickspittling to Putin another, but purchasing the Huns? The US has gone too far this time.

Molde win 5-4 on penalties. Only one bad penalty out of the 10 and that was the one saved. Shamrock team full of teenagers who competed well.

Molde win second leg 1-0 taking tie to penalties. Shamrock just missed one.

Already seen us lose once to Queens Park surely not going to see it again.

And how the f is that news?

Either way, its a potential banan skin. Queens Park have just beaten the former second tier winners (i would've expected more from such a prestigious club against Scotland's newcomers). Or the potential bananaskin of a rudderless Wales who are in their worst ever world ranking position. It's these sorts of games both Aberdeen and Scotland loves to lose

There's news around that SF 49ers' investment wing is expected to close out a takeover of The Rangers 2012 FC, including all debts owed to John Bennett, by June this year. The deal is expected to be similar to that which saw them takeover Leeds Utd two years ago

Clearly mellowing in your age