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Do you honestly and truly believe that the Council will make money from this deal, if it were to happen? They absolutely should be looking to make gains from this type of deal if it were to go ahead, but they won't, however much spin is put on it, if it happens. The above is based on nothing other than gut feeling and reading of many Councils being done over through this type of partnership. ACC got screwed over on the Bon Accord Centre many years ago, I can't remember the exact nature of the deal, but our tax lecturer used to tell us the story about it, but they were truly stitched up and all done legally. To my knowledge it never made the press, but it must be somewhere. There was also the more recent example of the place at Marischal Square that they lost their arse on. A smaller example of things that can go wrong, but an example nonetheless and also shows that Public money going to private organisations, though whatever means, should be carefully scrutinised to ensure the tax payer gets value for money. My argument here is that there should be enough wealth in this City to have built this damn thing years ago, without the need to take the begging bowl out looking for public money, at a time where the public finances are an absolute midden. The Council can help in numerous ways to get this project off the ground, they could make land available, they could help with roads and surrounding infrastructure, so it all dovetails in to the new stadium. I would also like the club to own the asset of a new stadium. I know it's not in vogue for companies to own large assets now and everything is done to ensure maximum shareholder return. I just believe that if you believe in something as a business, then you should put your money where you mouth is and invest in the bricks and mortar needed to build it and sustain it and for AFC that is our Stadium as much as the team. Anyway, I'm rambling now and going to STFU on the matter, but ats fit I think.

The Dooley's - Wanted

Can't afford the time or money for another seven hour round trip after Thursday and ahead of Prague on Wednesday, so afraid I'm out of this one and leaving myself wide open for the part time supporter accusations Out Walking the dog Red TV Nothing much 2-0 Lazetic & Clarkson

I saw I Swear at the talkies. Amazing film.

Number one on the day I was born as well.

No one watch films anymore Ten months and no posts Watched "I Swear" last night. A true story of tourettes sufferer John Davidson from Galashiels. Starting with him going to secondary school and the start of his tics, through to him receiving his MBE for his work in raising awareness of tourettes. A wonderful story where you will laugh and cry in equal measures (sometimes at the same time) and with a smattering of pretty decent music. Last word on the film, everyone needs a Dottie in their life

First ‘single’ I bought with my own money. Woolies union street. I probably bought a pick n mix inna

If the club take ownership of the construction cost risk and the lease payments cover the borrowing costs, where’s the risk against the council that makes it unviable? The risk of the club being liquidated and defaulting on the lease agreement is probably the main one. Another could be it impacting the council’s ability to borrow funds for other things (e.g. council house construction). Both could be addressed/dealt with. Most private sector construction follows similar principles. Investor funds the construction cost against a firm long-term lease commitment. The council’s pension fund are likely to be investors in such developments. Only issue I really see is if Cormack is expecting the council to underwrite the over-run in build cost and fix the lease cost up front. Also worth asking if the club can afford £1.5m (guesstimate) a year rent payments. I assume we have zero rent at the moment.

Found it odd past couple months that Armstrong was often the only midfielder that played the whole game. There were several games in a row where he played the full 90+. Club see the data so he must be fitter than most. TBH wouldn’t say he was struggling more than anyone else. Think most of them are, not only the players that are playing twice a week but those only coming in now and again finding it difficult to get up to speed. Clarkson looks to be struggling with a lack of game time. Nisbet is another player who seems to need to be at the peak of his fitness to get best from him. Coming in and out isn’t easy. If Armstrong does play hopefully not in deeper role where he has to cover so much space in our set up, much prefer him further forward. He’s almost always constructive, looking to get the ball nearer the goal rather than to the side…

The Human League - Don't You Want Me? (AKA Peter Pawlett Baby)

Thin Lizzy - Do anything you want to

The only thing I would say here is hospitals, schools and roads will never pay for themselves. It doesn't seem unreasonable to assume that any loan taken out by the local authority for this work would not be getting paid by tax payers, it would be getting paid for by the profits of it's use which won't just be from rent from the Club. I don't disagree that the club needs a stadium more than the council but the council needs Aberdeen fc in the city more than the club does. The club moving to the outskirts of the city would be devastating to the city's finances which is why the LA approached the club in the first place a few years back. It's not like the Dons haven't brought billions into the local economy over the past 120 years if you added it all up and applied inflation. I say all this as someone who has no horse in the race other an AFC as I don't live in Aberdeen. My opinion on this is at best uninformed but on the face of it from the outside looking in it does seem like all parties would win.

Thin Lizzy- Are you Ready

My very favourite player of all time. When he played the masters last year I genuinely welled up a bit seeing him score for the dons one last time.

Council build it. Club takes out a 99 year lease against it.

We are led by the least among us who was it used to say that about people in power - anywhere

My reply take two. For me, this Stadium is supposedly going to bring a prospective economic gold rush to the City. If it is that great a thing for the City, then why don't the great and the good come together and pay for it. I'm totally aware it won't make money, hence my concern about the Council paying for it. I get that a City or a Town needs good infrastructure to attract and retain businesses, but for me anyway, Aberdeen Football Club Ltd, need this stadium much, much more than our City does. A Hospital, a School and Roads are all good examples of where public money should be spent to bring growth to an area, but not quite sure a fitba stadium fits into to this. We have had Woody stumping up a large amount for a hospital car park. We had the Donalds put £15 million into AFC to wipe out our debt, that was nothing to do with them. I am quite sure that between all the real monied folk in this City, we can surely come up with a way of financing this Stadium, which would remain an Asset for the club for the next 100 years or so. Even get the fans involved in some way. I am sure a few would like to be part of something like this. We were told 15 years ago, by the very same great and the good of this City, that Union Terrace Gardens would have to be concreted over, to keep the City economically viable, or some other mealy mouthed pish. It didn't happen and what the Council did with it has just won an architectural award for it. It is a jewel in our City Centre and I hope that this new foodie place, where the New Market was, brings a much needed boost to Union Street, along with the other improvements being done. I want to see our City succeed, I want to see more positive changes like Union Terrace Gardens as opposed to the not so good Marischal Square, that was an opportunity lost for the City. Could have made a lovely Civic Square type of area with the old Town House complementing Marischal College. I would have knocked down the St Nicholas Centre too if given a chance. I'm certainly not averse to change. When they wheel out people like Martin Gilbert, just like they did with the UTG debacle from years back, it just stinks of the rich folk looking their noses down at the poor relations. I not the most articulated in getting my point of view across, but the whole thing just stinks and our local press seem to be agenda driven, just like they were with both UTG and Marischal Square and of course Trumps golf course in Balmedie. That was a new low amongst the many lows our esteemed Dundonian press.

I wouldn't say I was getting excited but it's no bad thing after the recent war of words for all parties to be coming out of a meeting of this ilk smiling, no? It's probably about as good a next step as could be hoped for all things considered. That said it is, of course, an election year and the councilors could just be playing the game. It's hard to look around the political lanscape of Scotland and find a politician that isn't a coward and shyster regardless of rosette worn these days and the only way to motivate them is to make them fear for their position at the trough.

Michael Kiwanuka - Im getting ready

I think most likely your phone, I can't see any kind of setting for that under the bonnet anyway.

Correct me if I’m wrong but is the broad plan to have the LA access borrowing at lower rates to build and then the club repay that via rental income? Appreciate I’m probably over simplifying it but makes the ‘investing public funds’ a little more palatable (for the record, I’m not in favour of using public funds for private benefit) as it’s almost a convenient transactional relationship with an upside to the LA over longer term.

Republica - Ready to Go

Likely my phone, it's nae the best. I usually do longer posts on a laptop as easier on my eyes.

Super player. Not saying better or worse, much like James McFadden, type of player Scotland (and Aberdeen) are badly missing at present. For Scotland maybe doak will have that type of presence but an absolute joy to watch. Expected adil to be the Jess type.

A real fan would still have that poster on his wall. Please say it is so.