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I’m not getting the pom-poms out for Robinson but he won the League Cup with St. Mirren, pumping Brazil 1970 and Celtic on the way I’m not sure were operating in a market where we’re better than that

His squad building has been minimal though, it's not like this team were all with him in the Championship. On average, they have around five players in the starting line-up who were there last season. We usually have around six who were regulars last season (and that doesn't count Jack Milne). In truth, they've just signed better than us. We've signed 15 players, and in our last four games we've named only four players in each starting line-up that were signed this season. McGlynn has heavily utilised the loan system. They've brought in eight players across the season, and signed four on permanent deals. What he has done well is find gems in the lower divisions, given youngsters a chance who didn't make the grade elsewhere (a few from Aberdeen), and loaned players from the likes of Man Utd, Sunderland, Sheffield Utd, Swansea and Leicester City. Maybe he has just hit the jackpot with his signings and that's why we're not looking his way, and perhaps there is an argument that we should wait and see if he can continue Falkirk's 'success' when all those loans return and bigger clubs sniff around a few other players. Or, he does say it himself - what could he do if given money to spend?

In my lifetime, we have appointed Roy Aitken and Steve Paterson. I'd also argue Jimmy Calderwood's track record wasn't as good as Steve Paterson's. And there's also Neil Warnock. The club also thought Alex Miller would do a turn. Too young to remember Portefield. Like I say, he wouldn't be the worst manager we've appointed. Would appear it does, so we currently have space for three more, although Olusanya is rumoured to be one, and if Sumans is injured then a goalkeeper might be another.

We need a core group to establish culture. Without that the team has no identity. We have shinnie and Devin, and that’s pretty much it. Hard to gain success when you patch a team of random folk together every year. Players like Watson, the two current loaners, Milne, lobban etc could have a long term influence, but we desperately need a long term shinnie replacement/a captain to lead by example.

On the Karlsson front. I thought he started well then settled into our squad and got worse. I've said it for some time, the culture in the squad is rotten and has been since dels last couple of seasons. New faces come in , we have a revival and then they settle in to the same pattern. What needs to change because it can't just be managers.

Problem with McGlynn is we are observing him years into a project at Falkirk where he has had the time to build a squad of guys who will run through walls for him. This Falkirk team/club didn’t spring up from nowhere in 3 months. We know he’s never getting the time to run that process at the Dons. We don’t have the players with the character to snap into that set up. He’d have to clear the decks and start all over.

I don’t think you can say we’ve appointed worse. While McGhee was a massive failure for example, he had a better track record than Robinson. Glass and robson could have been good with time, I see Robinson not much different to Goodwin. 100% agree strategy and vision which is why I don’t think we hire him. I do think we hire an experienced head with a clear game plan and philosophy, something I think Robinson lacks. While experienced, someone with a clear modern outlook and approach. I do think we have a stronger Scottish presence in the coaching staff. I don’t think leven has the passion or bite we’re looking for. I even wondered if we’d consider adding Barry Robson to the staff prior to him going to cork (whether he’d come was a diff story.) I honestly don’t care how long the process takes, even if it means leven until summer. I also don’t mind if we don’t sign anyone. We went all in on Thelin, and backed him financially, signing a ton of players. We all complained when we had too many loans 2-3 yrs ago, and were happy to sign more. That has backfired and we have a ton of players who aren’t good enough. We have to reduce costs and playing numbers. with karlsson leaving does that allow us another loan? Is it 6 loaners at one time?? I do expect a center mid and a winger coming in, but tough to sign based on what I said, plus kit having a permanent manager in place.

I used to work with his (now deceased) dad, a building industry lecturer, who bore the same name. He was very loyal to ‘Raymond’ but limited any out-of-school tales to those of Clough’s fondness for booze, which he said was one of the reasons that the loon got out of Nottingham. I thought he’d be a good signing, but I’d been equally enthusiastic when we signed Tommy Rae from Firhill in 1968…..

Back in training by march, fully fit for the world cup.

I had a while back heard it was closer to 15 we were paying him but that is unconfirmed. And 2bh I wouldn't like it to be

If it's someone already within Scottish football then it has to be McGlynn for me, discounting his time at the diets which was during a period of wage cutting etc. then he's the standout from these shores. That being said I'd still rather someone from outside the usual merry-go-round to lead us forward and if anyone can entice a foreign manager that is McGlynn-esque but younger and better contacts then it'll be the penguin snatcher. Hopefully by the start to middle of next week there'll be an appointment made, that'll give the new man a few days to a week to get a few faces that they can trust in the door on loan or signed up.

That'll be the guts of £10k per week saved. Hopefully we can get two or three semi competent team players for the wage we were paying that maverick

Finished 2-2. Got to wonder where Victims would be if they had just stuck with O’Neil rather than appoint Nancy.

Rhymes with Whyte.

Its like they dug out Calderwoods tombola.

That would have been the alcohol. The boy was knocking back a serious amount of booze. He was pals with a boy I worked with at the time, who would knock back anything put in front of him and I know first hand McKinnon was his equal on that front. Fair play for remembering him though, I had banished him from my memory. We've had some shyte over the years.

Like I said before, I don't think he's a bad manager. He may well be a success. We've appointed worse managers than him. It's more the fucking about with our "strategy" and "vision". We keep abandoning it every year or two, before going back to it again. Either stick with it or ditch it. The indecision is pathetic.

Official now

Imagine he did but turned it down to play for Scotland, that would be one way to end the should he get a call up debate. He would be a national hero

Really looking forward to this one...... but not because of the game. Got a new car last week and driving the a96 from Inverness is going to be loads more fun now than it was with the 1.2ltr 17yo polo I've been getting through with all season. Could take or leave the game 2bh but I may as well go I know Livi's results have been shit but from what I've seen their performances have been competive and they have defo been shafted by VAR a few times. I expect a tough game but I do wonder if Karlsson going is going to be good for morale as he must have been frustrating to play with. 3-1 dons, nisbet hatrick

Re Karlsson, man I remember being over the moon with his signing and really thought he would knock it out of the park. No questioning the talent but he clearly thought he was too cool for school and here we are, glad to have him off the wage bill.

Gary Macdonald was so disinterested he was invisible.

Timothy are surprisingly leading Bologna 2-0 in the UEFA Cup. With ten men as well.

Great shout. Think that’s the winner If we’re doing a ‘couldn’t give a fuck’ Aberdeen XI, Langfield coming back from his stag do has to be in goals The Celtic fans in the team that lost 9-0 should all be in there as well