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Over the three games I’d say Ferguson Gunn hendry Paterson and maybe tierney were our better players. Ferguson definitely the star man, the rest didn’t offer much. easy to be critical now but changing to two up top didn’t work, plus shankland didn’t work out but I understand why he did get selected. The lack of a legit forward and creative midfielders, especially wide, really hurt us. Very disappointing World Cup from mcginn and mctominnay, our star men.

In fairness, perhaps embarrass was the wrong choice of word from me Maybe under deliver or fail to live up to our own hype would be more accurate.

I switched over to sportsound after the game to truly wallow in the misery and just as I was drifting off to sleep, I was startled awake by Neil McCann losing his shit at Tom English. Thought he was going to chin him!

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I don't think we embarrassed ourselves in 86. Yes, Nichol did a Bremner but otherwise Uruguay cheated like fck and Denmark were lucky to finish with 11. I think the Sturrock (I know) Nicholas partnership would have sorted Uruguay if not for the Danes This latest one was the worst yet but with some bang average footballers. Seems you can't rely on two worldies and a goal from your own half very often.

I'm bright enough to know that if you're going to make a controversial accusation then you should actually do it rather than insinuate.

This and then some Fucking raging at myself for allowing myself to get sucked into the hype again like I have done at every tournament we have qualified for since 1974 (coincidentally the last time we didn't embarrass ourselves). There is a reason we are good losers and still party afterwards and that is because we have a losing mentality. Anyway heading back from holiday later today and at least have the league cup section games to look forward to.

I'm sure you are bright enough to work out what I was getting at.

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BBC no spoilers highlights page has been very welcome so far. Last night, however, as part of the "highlights" of the South Korea game, they included a reaction from the fucking Mexico game! FFS

Group A - South Korea two goals ahead of us, although important to note that had we shitfested a 0-1 against Brazil, we'd still have been behind on goals scored. Group B - Bosnia on four and so already through. Group D - Australia to beat Paraguay by more than a goal, or Paraguay to pump them by 4. Goal difference really killing us on this one Group E - Ecuador to lose to Germany and Ivory Coast to beat Curacao. A draw in either game also fine. This should be a certainty for us. Group F - Japan to beat Sweden by four! Group G - just need Egypt to beat Iran. A good chance that happens Group H - just need Spain to beat Uruguay. Another good chance Group I - Iraq to either beat Senegal by less than three, or a draw. 50/50 Group J - Austria to beat Algeria by more than one, or Algeria to beat Austria by four. Probably unlikely. Group K - Uzbekistan to beat DRC by less than four, or a draw. 50/50 Looks like we'll be going out. I think we could get three to go in our favour from this lot. I think 0-1 would have had us through, although only scoring a single goal in the tournament has killed us really. The Haiti game was our downfall (although had we lost or drawn, we'd have had nothing to go about!).

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I was not there for same reason plus just refusing to pay the money FIFA were asking for tickets. Overnight Mexico beat Czech’s 3-0 to win group however South Africa surprisingly beat South Korea 1-0 to take second drop South Korea down to third and push us further down third place table.

Looking like Scotland are out. The Koreans fucked it for us in their group. There are probably only four groups that realistically could go our way now, and it's likely that at least one will fall in the coming days. It's a shite setup, given they all know what they have to do.

Ah well, it was okay while it lasted. Thought Ferguson and McLean were decent and Paterson better than expected. Difficult to be too critical of the lineup and approach, it's what most fans were suggesting (rather than go 4-5-1 with Adams running about). I feel sorry for McKenna, that's a very difficult came to be coming into office an injury. I'd have actually stuck with Hanley! Henry had a decent world cup, but even he showed it was a harder game than it looks and was lucky not to lose the goal. The subs were typical of Clarke, late and with no real sense of a plan. Although it has to be said that a lot of that has to do with quality on offer. Up front, it's clear that bringing someone like Stewart in was a mistake. Not because of his ability, but because he offered nothing different to the rest. All in all, it was a bit pointless after that Haiti game, which was always going to bite us (although they were no mugs).

Asking your defenders to play a bit of football there is insane. If they could play football, they wouldn’t be defenders It’s like the coaches all got together and decided that this is the way we play football now, and nobody questions it. Every single week, you see some team practically throw the ball into the back of their own net because their coach has asked them to play one touch football in their own box. It’s the same with them not putting a defender on the posts at corners. Drives me up the wall

Aye pal, you are a hunner % spot on. We were never going to finish in the top 2 in this group, NEVER But fuk me we all knew that (including Clarke and the squad) so the emphasis should have been get the best possible win that we can against Haiti and shoot for 3rd place and a decent GD getting us through. As it has happened 1-0 was the best we could do against Haiti and even that we wir huddin on at the end. So irrespective of how shit the whole tournament is we just don't deserve to progress at all. Being a Scotsman is bit similar to being a dons fan. Lower your expectations before a ball is kicked and the failure on the park then becomes easier to dust yourself doon and get on with day to day life. Wit the 48 countries there this time round was it easier to qualify? then yes I suppose you could say that, but that did not really have any impact on us as we won our group (fk knows how we managed that) We got there and shit the bed, the Haiti game was fkn awful and to be honest a draw would have been a fair result from that game. Mathematically there is still a small chance we progress but we certainly don't fkn deserve to.

Aye Ah get ye, but tae labour ma previous point, Gettin' gubbed by Brazil and losin' narrowly tae Morocco is proportional tae reasonable, sober expectation. Failin' tae beat Haiti by mair than one goal is ... well ... 'failure'. We had little chance fae the outset o' finishin' better than third .... so oor best chance was bein' a 'good' third .... which meant displayin' we were fuckin way better than 4th .... 1-0 v Haiti was the game which fucked oor chances ... nae the ithers.

Every time. Every single fuckin time. All you ever ask of them is just don’t embarrass us. Just put up a good show, don’t hand it to the opposition on a plate, just do the basics right and make a decent show of yourselves. Countless other second rate teams manage, but not us, no, can’t do that, not fuckin ever. Likely blown it again, through our own utter ineptitude. Seriously, they can just GTF, as can the ridiculous happy clapper participation badge wankers in the support…

Agree ... but ... fuck it ... Ah'll take it. As Ah said, the system is shit, the structure is shit, the rules are shit .... so if we qualify? ... it's shit ... but if anyone else qualifies through the same shit scenario, it's equally shit .... so in all shitty fairness, Ah'm still hopin we 'fairly' qualify..... shitty as it may be. Put it this way: If 'x' number of individuals were to compete in a shit flinging contest, the biggest loser would be the one with the cleanest hands.

We don't deserve to go through imo

Bollocks!