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Well aren't you guys just a ray of fucking sunshine today. Don't give a fuck about last night, was dead rubber tastic and think we will be well up for this one. 3-1 dons with their 1 being a late consolation

In West Brewery 5-0 Celtic City Centre Home

3 goals in first half 3 in second our usual drubbing

Jimmy Thelin's Festive Roadshow rocks up at Parkhead on Sunday 21st with a 3 pm kick-off. Celtic's Wilfried Nancy is going for a record extending five straight losses, but I don't think he can achieve it. 2-1 Celtic with a winning penalty 16 minutes into stoppage time.

To take a player, with an alleged poor attitude, in from being out in the cold, then not play him correctly, reflects more badly on the manager rather than the player. He (Clarkson) might be a petulant dick, who wants out of the club, but last night was more on Thelin than Clarkson.

To understand the change to this format, you have to understand what they're trying to get to. The final goal is a European league(s). This gets everyone used to the idea by creating the format first, and then slowly increasing the number of games you play within the format. It doesn't make sense now, but in a couple of years, you'll maybe have 8 games in Europe rather than 6. Then 10. The closer you get to the final format, the less pronounced are the differences in fixtures but, paradoxically, the effects become more visible (team X played exactly the same fixtures as team Y, bar one fixture which they lost and finished three points behind them, missing "promotion"). At that point, the calls are then switched to shouting for a full round of fixtures for everyone rather than questioning the tournament itself. It's basically using the sunk cost fallacy to get what you want. Governments, businesses and football cunts do it all the time. The most obvious example is VAR. Your goal is to remove all refereeing errors from football, so you introduce a shite system. You then slowly chip away at each type of decision until you get what you want. At a certain point, people stop questioning the existence of the system itself and they are the ones saying "well we've got this system, why aren't we using it for throw-ins?". Aided and abetted by morons in the media who have discussions about "how we can make VAR better", rather than "how can we organise to get rid of VAR", not realising that the former discussion doesn't mean impartiality, you've already agreed with Thatcher's TINA (there is no alternative). It's not just football. Every single town and city on the planet is setup in the most ridiculous fashion to accommodate car travel, for example. We must bail out banks, and so on. We don't have a say. We all know that the correct answer is to rip it up and go back to knockout tournaments, unseeded. We all know that what makes European football magical is its scarcity.

I didn't think he was great, but the role plays to none of his strengths, and all of his weaknesses. Yet, when you compare to Karlsson on the opposite side, there wasn't a significant difference between the two performances.

They only finished that high because they played us

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True, but nobody can say he remotely did anything to change anyone at the clubs view of him. Poor attitude all round…

Harsh to judge Clarkson on tonight - he was out of position in a wide open midfield.

Both! I used to really love you boss Played every game even when dross Thought I was your golden boy Then cast aside like a toy and can’t even kick Jackie Mack now when I’m cross

True, they say the league doesn’t lie, but that’s definitely not the case here with the ridiculous format. Doesn’t change the fact we’ve performed poorly overall again and are absolutely miles off it at European level. I’d also suggest that tonight showed exactly why Polvara and Clarkson are deemed surplus to requirements - though they’re not the only ones tbf…

If he refuses to sit on the bench, as rumoured, then I'd drive him down the road myself. I like the loon, but if he doesn't want to be here and not being professional about it, then cheerio.

I know it was Aberdeen, but I couldn't have cared any less about tonight and got exactly what I expected, nothing. I hope those over in Prague had a great time, barring the football. It's a great place. Thank goodness it is all over and we get back to winning ways at Parkhead on Sunday.

But that’s not really true, is it, because they’ve played almost completely different teams to us. Which is not to say we’ve covered ourselves in glory, clearly we haven’t. But you can’t even take anything meaningful from the table.

I got A Hard Day's Night on DVD out of a charity shop last week for 50p. Great film. Just think, when it came out in 1964, for 50p you could get a bus to the cinema, two tickets to the film, chips and a bottle of Bon Accord ale afterwards and the bus home, and still have enough change to put a deposit down on a three bedroom house. Changed days.

Wonder if I’d feel differently if we’d advanced, but what a shit format. Not a complaint because we faced 5 of the top 8 teams, but I just find it rather uninteresting. No clue why we had to have 36 teams, if you insist on something different instead of the regular knock out rounds, why not 32 team, 8 groups of 4, play everyone home and away so you get your 6 games, but the games are now likely more meaningful. Top 2 advance to a round of 16. the format of the European tournaments are getting worse and worse. As has been said before, I certainly miss the original 3 tournaments.

I don’t know if I’d say it’s been good for us. It’s been a learning experience during a time we’ve played pretty pish, and realized many of our summer signings are not good enough, plus players like Topi palaversa and clarkson have not kicked on as we’d hoped. Maybe Europe has helped us figure all that out earlier and we approach January a little differently, rather than less games in the autumn, less rotation, and more change would come next summer.

Still in the ground Whilst we didn't play that great, can I just say that Sparta were probably the poorest team we have played in Europe this season

Well thank fuck that’s over- a total waste of everyones time. We’ll get all the usual guff about learning from the experience, but there’s no learning that can bridge the gap in basic technical ability & game intelligence with this lot. Only positive, no serious injuries on that horrific surface. Crocked two of their own players. Yes it was a tough draw, but we finished behind 2 Irish teams & Lincoln fuckin Red Imps. I bet theres a few others in there with smaller budgets than us too. We’re absolutely miles off it at this level, miles. Jesus wept…

So we played 6 teams and 5 finish in the top 8. Not a great experience but we were not outplayed/beaten by shit teams.

I get Sparta had a similar formation to us, but once again we played three at the back when we really didn't need to. All three at the back really does for us is give us an extra man when teams throw in crosses. But on nights like tonight, we can't hold onto the ball, and the way Sparta played meant any 'advantage' of having an extra man was lost. As much as they are struggling at the moment, Celtic will play a similar way on Sunday, and Wilfried Nancy will absolutely have Maeda and Hatate cutting inside and finding the space to get shots away.

It's not a league though, is it. It's a contrived bollocks set of games where different teams play others at random. It's tragic as fuck that people actually came up with it in the first place. You can't even properly slag us off for finishing bottom because we played different teams than others around us. I'm fucking glad we're avoiding this format for imbeciles next season (unless we win the league).