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Scottish Cup Fifth Round - Aberdeen v Motherwell

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  1. What sort of update would keep everyone happy though? If there's a potential issue with the manager's previous club then any public announcement could prejudice the resolution of that issue. If there's a potential issue with the preferred candidate himself then any public announcement could have an impact on our plan B, plan C, plan Z, etc. If we're in negotiations with any party on any topic, it's usually best not to show your hand until those negotiations are concluded. If we're looking for an announcement just to say we've made an announcement, people are still going to be pishing their pants over the vagueness of it. There will be plenty of time and scope to hold people to account once the process is concluded and we get the full story, getting the pitchforks out and demanding speed takes priority is how we'll end up with someone like Robinson.
    10 points
  2. It's amazing how much people are winding themselves up over their own interpretations of guesswork being published by sports reporters who themselves have no real idea of what is going on other than this Norwegian chap had been openly sightseeing around the city for 2 whole business days before they were remotely aware that he was under consideration. If we can save a few £000k's in compensation by waiting a wee bit while we're not actually playing any games and have someone semi-competent keeping training ticking over, then it makes sense to do so. And taking a job in another country away from where your family are, it's a big impact on your personal life and not something you can expect someone to take lightly. Allowing someone in that position to take some time to do some research, discuss with family, etc, is not a sign of weakness or a slight on our stature as a football club. Basically, calm doon.
    9 points
  3. Hi first time on this chat be gentle. I personally don't think any managers in scotland appeal at the moment ( apart from steve clarke but don't think he would come to us and don't fancy waiting til summer either) so hoping this guy horneland takes the job and hopefully we eventually start playing some exciting football and maybe even start to win games. But whoever gets the job we all need to get behind them and give them a chance SF
    9 points
  4. I dont think Dave is doing a bad job, I don’t understand your strong dislike. I certainly understand your frustration with the current situation. Of course the club and Dave have made mistakes, that’s not abnormal in football, and has been acknowledged I think. football is an impossible business. Most clubs and managers fail. Most replace managers regularly, most don’t win anything. That’s the game. cormack has brought investment. A training ground. A director of football. Increasing playing funds. We’re signing players who played for ac Milan, man city, PSG, Liverpool, loaner from spurs, highly regarded youngsters, internationalists. I get many of these haven’t worked out but it’s much greater ambition than league 1 and 2, wycombe Stockport and the likes. I certainly think we can get better balance, and I think that has been acknowledged too. rangers and Celtic have been a mess this season, hearts have recently been a mess. We’ve signed managers, with the exception of glass, that while not always my choice, made sense. its always darkest before dawn, perhaps we’re close to the beginning of something special. We won a trophy last season, maybe luckily, maybe we repeat? Unlikely but I think we’ve got a man in charge who is fully invested, will spend, is ambitious, and wants success. That’s not easy.
    8 points
  5. I may be out of sync with many, but I just don't get all the angst on this. Replacing any member of staff is a tricky process, let alone something as crucial to a football club as a manager. Why do folk expect it do be done quickly? I'd much rather it were done right. There's so much we don't know about what's happening behind the scenes, who is available, who is not. It's not as easy as simply having identified a few names beforehand and then them magically being in a position to say yes right off the bat. Apart from the Cup (which is a long-shot given the state of the team) this season is basically a write-off now. So far better to limp on and get the "right" person than do something quickly. Even then, there are so many variables that the "right" person may not succeed. Most managers fail. Even if the "right" person says yes, there are wider factors. I don't think it would be too speculative to suggest that Jimmy not bringing his family with him had a negative impact, as did the loss early on of a key member of his coaching staff. Life is full of shitty variables that mean the best laid plans o' mice and men gang aft agley.
    7 points
  6. Leven says he's had the squad play a match against each other. I bet they both lost.
    7 points
  7. What are our expectations though? We are 123 years old and have won 4 titles, 8 Scottish Cups, 5 League cups and two European Cups, with the majority won over a 6 year period from 1980. You need a bit more about you to support a team that doesn't win much trophies, but it's what makes days like last May all the more special. Bigot fans will never feel what we did last May. Take comfort from us just being us. Whether we are shit or decent, it's still our team. The manager thing will sort itself out, let them paid to sort it, sort it and don't over think it. I could have listed our Tennants Sixes wins, Drybrough Cups, Aberdeenshire shields and master trophies. We're far better than that though.
    7 points
  8. They should have a town crier delivering the latest manager news outside Pittodrie every day at 10 am. Or have a papal style enclave where they meet to choose a new manager. As soon as we see red smoke pouring out of the Main Stand, we will know if we have a new boss.
    7 points
  9. Hopefully if he is walking, by the time he gets here, we have appointed someone else
    7 points
  10. I'm not having this. It wasn't a lucky start to the season. It was a team that needed to improve to keep the run going, and unfortunately didn't, but they earned every single one of those wins, the same way I wouldn't suggest the three months without a win after it was "unlucky". If anything, considering Hibs were very fortunate with some refereeing decisions in various games in the run in, we were perhaps UNLUCKY not to have had a chance of third on the final day. And as for the cup, what was lucky about it? We actually trailed for most of the game due to Celtic getting some good fortune. Let's not denigrate one of the best days in our recent history. Thought that sentence was leading up to Panda there
    6 points
  11. To be fair to Lutz ( tin hat on) he only came in I dunno late October/early November and we were getting some results then so not inconceivable that they did not foresee sacking Thelin just after the new year. So the next time we need a manager that process will hopefully be in place.
    6 points
  12. Doom n gloom on here today and from at least two who can't blame our miserable weather. We're seventh in the league and still in the cup. We've been in far, far worse positions than this in Februaries gone by.
    6 points
  13. I’m pretty confident of putting Motherwell out. Fuck knows why. I didn’t get into the business of supporting Aberdeen to be afraid of a Motherwell fixture though
    6 points
  14. Hearts the better team in last years cup semi. Were. They. Fuck.
    5 points
  15. I was just about to say similar.Think Thelins position was becoming untenable just as Luts was getting his feet under the table,so not really fair to expect him to have someone lined up at that point. Even if he had potential replacements in mind,doesnt mean theyre available...or want to come at that time.Saying that,any sort of update to keep Blow up sheeps knickers dry wouldnt go amiss
    5 points
  16. It's hardly realistic if you're jumping to conclusions without knowing any of the facts. The person tasked with fixing the "shambles" has only been in the job for about 2 months. So aye, calm doon.
    5 points
  17. Think we need to keep some perspective on what we can reach for in terms of manager. We are unlikely to be buying in a market for experienced European managers who have a successful track record at a number of clubs. Very much like the players we are shopping for, we are taking a degree of risk with those who have shown performance at some point on their career but may have drifted off that trajectory. If they had continued to grow (Palaversa, Aouchiche etc and Horneland) we wouldn’t be close to getting them. It’s a calculated risk that hasn’t really paid off so it’s reasonable to question the strategy but if we bin that idea then we go down the McGlynn route. No guarantees that doesn’t fall flat on its face either. Knowing the Scottish game isn’t a recipe for success. Someone like McGlynn has spent a long time crafting Falkirk, would we give him that time?
    5 points
  18. That seems about right. But I'd argue that the expectation of a continuous "well run" club is in itself a little unfair. There's not a club in the world that is perennially well run. It's perfectly normal and acceptable to be up and down considering the number of factors that affect a club, and the turnover of staff. We don't continuously spend enough to guarantee we'll finish above the rest, and certainly not Hearts and Hibs. We probably spend enough to ensure that we don't get relegated, which is why we never have been. A European place should be achievable every year. A European place is not guaranteed (as it is for the Huns and Tims), and a slight failure in the transfer market (say 40% success as opposed to 60%) would be enough to see us miss out. The margins aren't great and will never be. Edit: to add, there is no correlation between being well run and the time it takes to appoint a manager, either.
    5 points
  19. Hopefully Dundee United won't survive the next week either.
    5 points
  20. I’ve just seen the club announcement. I think only Bobby Clark, Chalky (Tam’s best pal), Jinky, and Jimmy Wilson from the 1967 cup final team are still on the right side of the turf. Of the 1970 cup-winning team, Bobby Clark, Jim Hermiston, George Murray, Martin Buchan, Joe Harper, Bumper, and George Buchan are still extant. Tam was also Inverness Thistle (RIP) player-manager, and when he came back to the city as a taxi driver was aye good for a pint in the cricket club at Mannofield. I was at a Football Memories session at Pittodrie about 3 years ago, and it was sad to see how dementia had affected him. Ach.
    5 points
  21. They should be putting out a daily statement informing us that they have no further update on the manager situation.
    5 points
  22. What are you actually expecting though? Recruitment processes for high-level roles always tend to be fairly private out of respect for the people involved and their current employers. There's absolutely no need for the fanbase to be privy to names on shortlist and the like. When you look at how people jumped on and obsessed over the throwaway comment about it being advantageous for the next manager to have exposure to the Scottish game as being an absolute dealbreaker and that he'd be doing a massive U-Turn if he brought in someone that didn't fit that profile, it's no wonder he's saying the bare minimum.
    5 points
  23. I’m president of the United States of America
    5 points
  24. This is true. I’m unsackable in my job and I do the bare minimum every single day. I’m currently trying to teach myself card tricks during office hours
    5 points
  25. Hi, my name is Buzz
    5 points
  26. Connor Barron has seemingly refreshed this thread 45 times.
    5 points
  27. Aye, but the change isn't really for the better. We are quite possibly just legacy fans with no place in the modern game. I mean, I don't even do AberDNA and yet here I am, on here complaining about our latest signing. The cheek of it.
    5 points
  28. I should add I saw enough to suggest we do have a chance in the cup tie. Definitely.
    4 points
  29. There is not one footballing success metric by which Aberdeen FC are not the 3rd club in Scotland. Its why the diets and spoon burners constantly obsess about attendances, its all they have to try and pretend they’re bigger clubs, laughable really. As for the pikeys, they just dream of being us…
    4 points
  30. If we had anyone actually interested in holding Reform Ltd to account, it would be the end for Farage as well, he seems to be all over the files in a political inference context. BBC seem far more interested in “At Home With The Farages” puff pieces showing what a ruddy nice bloke to have a pint with Our Nige is while the Labour government are perfectly content to let GB News break all kinds of broadcasting regulations on a daily basis and despite the mounting evidence that Brexit was planned by these outside influences from the very beginning have no interest whatsoever in addressing that head on.
    4 points
  31. I'm guessing they'll factor the weight of Callum McGregor's tears into the decision too. Could potentially tip it.
    4 points
  32. Aye, that has formatted so badly it actually resembles our team defending a corner.
    4 points
  33. I heard on the morning news that the Balmedie Weasel, formerly of the stinkies and Blues of Birmingham signed for Dundee overnight. This was the banner claes-pegged up on Pittodrie Street when the fucker left. As I recall, we did a deal to keep McCrorie and let the Hun join the Huns at their bigoted sash palace. I trust that he’ll get a warm welcome when we next play TMSTID?
    4 points
  34. The Clarkson one I find most disappointing- never fully recreated the impact he had in the loan spell- very talented player and can argue whether we didn’t properly utilise him or his standards dropped, just wasn’t consistent enough, but sorry it didn’t work out in the end feel with the right manager he could have been a cracking player for us and sure the club saw him as an investment that would bring in large sum after a couple of years
    4 points
  35. Aye, fair enough, my apologies. I'll explain my frustration if it helps. I have no problem with being wrong at all, but your argument, as I read it, was one of those positions that could never be proven wrong or right either way, which do get on my nerves a bit! If you'd said that there was one or two (or five!) players that weren't pulling their weight, or that Thelin's approach was too soft on the players (although even that would be difficult to verify), I could have got on board with it. It's the fact that you have seemingly identified a single cultural issue that has infected the entire club, which several managers - despite huge clear outs of players - were unable to address. At face value, it actually doesn't seem that ridiculous, and I understand why people liked the post, but I think you have to ignore, or play down, an awful lot of other factors for this pressure idea to be true. The reason it annoys me slightly is because it's basically the sort of crass analysis we get from our BBC pundits. It's like a populist position, akin to blaming immigrants for shite public services or national debt, or youth laziness for a rise in unemployment (those are illustrations, your example isn't that stupid!). It's the type of easy answer that saves us asking harder questions (or doing more analysis), whilst at the same time tarring everyone at the club - a wee bit insultingly, if we're honest - with the same brush as, say, Karlsson (who may have just been going through a difficult period himself, and struggling to focus on fitba, who knows). There was a poster on here that used to go on about McInnes not winning the league with us because of "lack of belief". A similar concept that could never be measured in any meaningful way, and allowed us to brush over the fact that when the Tims spent money in the January window, we employed Simon Church! But it was impossible to have a reasonable debate against because I could point out numerous times when we showed belief in that period, but could never disprove the overall point that if we'd simply believed (more?) then we'd have won the league. But, aye, I should be more polite in my engagement in future. My apologies.
    4 points
  36. All jokes aside, if you're in an environment where you can consistently fail and find yourself back in the fold after every fuck up then it suggests to me that there's no real consequences. Has there been pressure on Mitov to perform for the past countless weeks? No Has there been pressure on Nisbet or Lazetic to score when they were going through their barren spell? No Has there been pressure on Topi or Karlsson or Milanovic or Bilalovic to create chances for the aforementioned 2? No Has there been pressure on the defence when we're conceding from set pieces every game and hardly keeping clean sheets? No There has been an acceptance for far too long that 3/10, 4/10, 5/0 performances don't matter as they'll be playing the next game. This has been an ongoing issue for a very long time, going back further than Jimmy or Robson or even Glass and for that to be the case then it has to be a culture problem within the walls of AFC that has been allowed to continue and get worse.
    4 points
  37. Harley was a regular up the hills with us,Ben Cruachan in this case.Getting on a bit now
    4 points
  38. The only potential hazard being confusing them with urinal blocks
    4 points
  39. This is the best match thread ever!! More dogs! Here's mine, his name was Wyvis and sadly he passed away a year and half ago. I'm still broken by it . Also he was an Alaskan Malamute not a fucking husky (used to do my head in when people called him a husky)
    4 points
  40. This is Jess, named after the Hun hammer
    4 points
  41. Lyall Cameron prefers to be identified as British rather than Scottish.
    4 points
  42. Matthew fae the Spar shop, I think was another classic lost to the ages.
    4 points
  43. This is the most inept refereeing performance in Scotland in sixty years of following football Just completely clueless
    4 points
  44. It takes as long as it takes, Leven is clearly a safe pair of hands so I don't see the rush 2bh
    4 points
  45. I'm going to defend Lutz here. Bigger clubs than us have had vacancies at the same time, and have been happy to just appoint interims until the end of the season. Man Utd (Carrick), Celtic (O'Neill - for the second time this season) are two such examples. Had we just said "Leven until the end of the season", would we have been happy? It's coming up to three weeks, which isn't that long. As long as he appoints him within the next week, and the boy wins at least two trophies - at least one of which needs to be a European trophy - then I'd say the wait was worth it.
    4 points
  46. Is he coming over by jet ski?
    4 points
  47. Fixed that for you.
    4 points
  48. We just mainly hear about their gestapo shooting Americans in the face, the child sex trafficking and fascist stuff but that’s good news about property taxes
    4 points
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