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Or we could sell Miovski to Southampton for £8m and send Soklar to them.

Another Donstalker succumbs to the drink....

Well if he scores against Celtic the Green Brigade are going to have an existential crisis....

At 3-0 down, he'll receive a second booking for kicking the ball away. As he walks off, he slips in the steadily forming puddle of his manager's tears, landing on a water bottle which ruptures his bum crack*, putting him out of action for six years. As he lies on the ground, Rubi commandeers the phone of a willing spectator in order to take a thumbs up selfie in the foreground of the injured Hun. The image goes viral. *I'm not a medical professional

наслади се на шофирането до Airdrie, дебела путка. I thought everyone knew that.

My thoughts exactly. Imagine a wavering Teklic comes here just to quickly check Panda is happy before signing on the dotted line, hits the profile image page, thinks "but what if I put up a poorly judged image, or its the wrong kind of sheep?", self-doubt creeps in, he's up all night researching the differences between a cheviot and a scottish blackface, and in the morning high on caffeine and sleep deprivation his normally sound judgement goes out the window and he collapses in a heap of despair on the quilted floor of his opulent first floor library screaming "I can feel the weight of my own insignificant mortality crushing me under the towering edifice of the complexity of the universe and I no longer comprehend if we have a purpose in this life or if the concept of fate is simply a random pinwheel in the blackness of the abyss, so fuck it I'll sign for Borussia Mönchengladbach instead". Manc, I'm blaming you if this happens.

Actually we can blame Clarkson for making a stupid challenge. Mackay being a fat racist cunt is purely coincidental.

It’s only one criterion on the list of things we should be looking for in a manager, the ability to build and lead a team that is stronger than its individual components. Playing style is another. If Tommy Wright hadn’t made an arse of the Killie job and wasn’t a renowned hoofball merchant then his name would probably be on the shortlist. But he did and he is so he isn’t. If Ross had a track record of playing attractive progressive football then he’d be a good option despite his track record. But he doesn’t. He’s a dour, overly conservative coward. He has lost just about every big game he has ever managed and makes zero sense as an option considering the reasons we sacked Derek McInnes. Jack Ross is basically Derek McInnes with the positive attributes removed and the negative attributes turned up to 11.

There should really be a separate thread for each of those contract expiry points.

All sorted and available for the Hearts game

If it's to the pie queue I wouldn't bother embarrassing yourself

As opposed to your posting on here...

That was unreal. What a fucking block from Duk. He can take 4 months holidays every summer. What a performance.

Massive superiority complex and misplaced arrogance. It brings out the worst in the whole population. Particularly bad are the ones who know nothing about sport. Most recently having a conversation about rugby just after the 6 nations. I made a comment which was responded to by an older English lad very confidently with "come back to me when you beat us" to which I laughed and replied "you mean like this year, or last year or the year before that." Or the dickhead my wife saw yesterday wandering down the street shouting "eng-ha lund eng-ah-lund" only stopping to stick his head in the door of the kebab shop and Turkish barbers to shout racist shite at them. Thankfully I married an Irish girl and have mates that treat it like a rivalry, same as we do. Cheering and giving me shit when we lose or have crap results (memorably the draw against the Faroes). I wanted to go to Germany and tried to convince one of these mates to come with me, he wouldn't, saying that he would have done had England not qualified but didn't want to go and have the Germans (or anyone else) associate him with the rest of his countrymen. I always like to tell them that half their team should have been missing from the final in '66 had the semi been refereed correctly, having spent 90 minutes taking turns kicking the fuck out of Eusebio (something my dad goes on about), so really the goal given that didn't cross the line just typified how corrupt that whole tournament was. In fairness the jingoism has died down a bit over the last few years and yesterday meant I got a lovely round of golf in on an empty course while the rest of England tried to drink more than three cans of cider while comparing guts and bad tattoos before seeing their team capitulate and giving their wives a slap to reassert their superiority complex and misplaced arrogance.

I wouldn't say we missed Shinnie v Celtic, but have read some nonsense about the game proving we're a better team without him in it. If Shinnie plays and Barron and Clarkson play to the level they did v Celtic, Motherwell won't be able to live with us.

Which is far more exciting than our previous tactic of waiting for borderline boilers to finish doing the rounds of the whole town before eventually settling for us because we’re too scared to spread our wings beyond our own doorstep except for a fortnight in Magaluf every couple of years. Occasionally we’d get in first with one of the younger local ones but only because we have our own car. That’s no way to live. The knowing nods between punters every time you enter the local pub. “I see he’s taken in Curtis Main this time” they’ll whisper amongst themselves.

The football equivalent of voting for Trump because he was funny in the primaries debates.

Our previous managers were capable of a "rocket up the backside". Scott Brown and Graeme Shinnie have been in that dressing room. Our issues I don't think are down to a lack of work rate. Tactically is where we've failed. As for "sticking it" to Rangers and Celtic. First of all, he adores the pair of them. Secondly, what actually is sticking it to them? Is it attacking football? That's not generally Warnock, I'd be surprised if he doesn't go defensive on Tuesday. Is it getting fired in? He'll soon learn that you can't get away with that v the Old Firm in Glasgow. Will he be outspoken and call out decisions? Probably. But so are Derek Adams, Craig Levein, even Derek McInnes. What difference does it make? I actually think it's a big risk we're taking. The whole "safe pair of hands" line people have been trotting out, what does that even mean? Has he never been relegated before? Has his side never been on the end of a scudding? Think a lot of people are being bought in by the name and the celebrity. I've yet to see a good reason as to why Warnock stands out as the right choice other than wishy washy platitudes like "experienced" and regular showings of a documentary he did 20 years ago.

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Apologies for the rotten title but it’s was a rush job to get a thread going as Manc is an idle cunt and Big Al is slumped in the corner of some Greek Taverna looking like a sunburnt Father Jack.

No one has told anyone to go away. I'm locking this thread however before it spirals completely out of control. A shame really, as I'm sure I wasn't alone in being interested in finding out alternative ways of allocating tickets.

Yeh well done West Ham. Just goes to show if you have a dream, work hard, play in the richest league in the world and spend £150m on transfers, you can do anything.

On a much more positive note, using less than 50% of the money I have saved through not drinking since my relapse in January, I bought this today

Did Robson and sheerin not get a crack previously and do terribly? Can that and also the " knows the Scottish game patter" Neil lennon knew the Scottish game, McCoist knows it inside out. Didn't help either as a manager. Big Ange and Gerrard hadn't set foot in the country. Introduced new ideas and both got good results. Let's be honest, most dons fans would have chosen Goodwin over Ange at the time We need to look for a winner that plays football. I don't even care if they're not a top league guy. Let's spread our net properly instead of taking in the next punter that believes the old firm can never be touched. That punter usually being chosen from a West coast media's list of their unemployed pals. Let's look around Europe, Scandinavia etc and take a punt on someone up and coming. It can't go worse than the last pair of safe hands.

Leon Mike-Mike-Mike

Aye.about as successful as the Sheerin/Whyte combo

Wouldn't it be better if he could play against us?

Whilst posting is quiet in comparison to The Hat, the welcome difference here is the quality of poster we have. You won't find any of the 24 carot gold zoomers on here and we are a friendly bunch that know how to disagree on matters without resorting to petty name calling. We specialise in quality over quantity

Think folk are being bit unfair on McKenzie . I don’t think he looks like a full back but still a decent defender and would like to see how he does at centre back maybe as left of a three. Definitely worth keeping. Also Lewis is getting a lot of unwarranted stick. He might not be playing as well as he has in previous seasons but he is still a decent keeper by SPFL standard and there are only 3 or 4 in the league better than him in my opinion.

The notion that we'll get a more committed, intelligent and good left sided defender - on top of all the other vital signings needed in the summer - to challenge for a place in the first team is ridiculous. I'd have him in the current team ahead of both Bates (who still can't take the ball properly on his wrong side) and McKenzie. He's not ancient for a centre back and keeps himself fit. He's not injury prone, with both his injuries being severe "one off" type injuries, so can generally be relied on to be available too. At best this is a naive decision, at worst a fucking honking one.

You can't just say "if you don't ask", that's just stupid. A total cop out. I don't have that much time for Cormack, but it's completely unfair on him and the club to put someone like solskjaer in the hat and say "if you don't ask". We aim to have a wage bill no higher than 60% of turnover. OGS on his own would be above that. So no, it's not "you don't ask", it's simply a ridiculous suggestion that we shouldn't even be discussing. Knutsen is a different matter, he'd be at the high end of our budget. But we have to also accept that the club will know about him if we do and they'll likely have made an approach if there's any chance of getting him. We all know what type of person Cormack is, he'd love someone like that. It's just that there's a little more to it than simply asking a guy, there has to be a reciprocal desire to be anywhere near the spfl and that likely rules out a large number of foreign managers. We're making it out like the club are picking from a small pool of managers, rather than there being a small pool of managers who we can realistically appoint. Very few people are against foreign managers, we just don't aimlessly choose "foreign" as an attribute that counts for more than ability. It's similar to the folk saying that it needed to be someone "young and hungry" when we appointed Glass as if age has any bearing on managerial ability (it doesn't). The reason I don't put forward any foreign managers is because I simply don't know any, other than the obvious ones already mentioned. I can objectively measure someone like Jim Goodwin because I've watched his entire career and seen his improvement. I think that on our budget he'd be a big improvement on Glass. I think he's intelligent and determined. I don't need to be inspired by him, because I'm not likely to be inspired by any manager we can afford to appoint. If we appoint a foreign manager, I'd likely just be ignorant of them rather than inspired. I'd probably get the five minutes of excitement that you get with a new car or sofa, but I'd be brought back down to earth upon drawing with Livingston or some shite. But I'm fine with that. I'm also cognisant that the manager is only a part of the puzzle. We have to employ a manager that's in line with our playing budget. A hugely expensive manager with Ojo for company isn't going to fire us into third. We simply wouldn't get good value from our expensive manager. OGS would be like winning the lottery and spending it all on a Van Gogh for yer caravan.

In consideration of our failing season, thought an update to our contract situation might be worthwhile. Apologies for the length. GK 2023 Woods (31) - Is he Injured? noticed the boy Ritchie was on the bench Sunday. 2024 Lewis (34) - Been off form but capable of getting that back made some good saves yesterday. No real issues here. Lewis has been out of form, but not really a problem for January or even next summer. Defence January 2022 Devlin (28) - Injured needs to be released. Summer 2022 Considine (34) - Injured and aging but should be given another year extension. Gurr (26) - not of the required standard. 2023 MacKenzie (21) - Injured will be fine once he recovers from injury. Gallagher (30) - Injured looked off form when he has been fit. 2024 Hernandez (24) - Loaned out hopefully Atlanta repay us for the fee paid out on their behalf and the whole sorry mess can be put to bed. McCrorie (23) - arguably a midfielder been OK at the back and we have had little option. Ramsay (18)- Injured could end up receiving offers for him, maybe his current injury will delay them till next summer. Bates (25) - improving. I'd hope we are looking to start next season with MacKenzie, Gallagher, McCrorie (is he a midfielder), Ramsay (unless the right offer comes in) Bates & Considine (depending on his recovery). In January, Devlin must be off the payroll, attempts made to get Gurr off too, and fingers crossed Atlanta buy Hernandez (for everyone's sake). Should be planning on 4-6 of the current lot being here next season. Assuming recovery from injuries and no more occurring; MacKenzie, Gallagher, McCrorie, Ramsay and Bates till end of the season, that are good enough, scope for additions. Midfield Summer 2022 Hayes (34) - can see him signing an extension if offered but is he as effective as first time around? Can we get better and younger for the wage? Hedges (26) - will be off, decision is balancing any money offered and what player(s) can we bring in against what little Hedges playing within himself brings for the remainder of the season. McGeouch (28) - Injured? (again) imagine he's looking to see what offers he gets and will be trying to minimize injuries to his fragile body in the meantime. Ojo (30) - Also seems to be looking to see what offers he gets and we should be able to do better. McGinn (34) - Past it. End of Loan Summer 2022(If possible cancel them all in January) Jenks (19) - Not good enough Samuels (21) - Not good enough Longstaff (21) - Not good enough 2023 Campbell (20) - Doesn't appear as if Glass rates him that highly. Kennedy (27) - Injured (allegedly) tried to get rid of in the summer depending on how true the back injury is, will likely try again. McLennan (22) - Injured he's got strength, pace, skill all let down by decision making and consistency. Should be at a higher level if he's going to make it at his club. Brown (36) - Injured? Will give his all and probably been our best player, but he's 36. 2024 Ferguson (22) - doesn't want to be here will push for a move to england again in January. Next season would be planning on Hayes (to sign a new contract), Campbell, Brown, McLennan maybe Hanratty. Potentially for remainder of the season we have; Campbell, Brown & Hayes who will give their all all, albeit Brown is 36 and probably will need a rest at some point some & Hayes who is 34 and has 6 months left on his contract. Hedges, McGeouch and Ojo who will be playing with one eye on a signing on fee elsewhere, won't care where we finish and play accordingly. Jenks, Longstaff and Samuels none of whom are good enough and none have a vested interest in our success. Kennedy and McLennan who are not good enough and Ferguson who is trying to get a move elsewhere. Forwards 2023 Watkins (31) - Hopefully stays injury free for the remainder of the season. Ramirez (30) - Possibly Glass's singular piece of good recruitment JET (30) - wrong type of player for battling at the wrong end of the table An aging strike-force. Can't see any of them being here after summer 2023. JET too much of a luxury but can't see anyone taking him off our hands in January. Ngwenya to join them next season? Youth on loan Ngwenya (18) - contract till 2024 Ruth (19) - contract till 2022 Barron (19) - contract till 2022 Ritchie (18) - contract till 2022 Duncan (17) - contract till 2022 Hanratty (18) - contract till 2024 Mykyta (19) - contract till 2022 McIver (18) - contract till 2022 Gallagher (20) - contract till 2022 Milne (18) - contract till 2022 As far as I can find only Ngwenya and Hanratty signed for longer than the end of the season? Following Sunday it appears we may only have 15 fit outfield players fit. 3 defenders (1 is Gurr and McRorie will be banned for hibs), 9 midfielders (Longstaff might as well not be here, Jenks and Samuels aren't good enough, McGinn has made 2 starts from 7 appearances ), 3 forwards (1 is JET). 7 games till the break and opening of the window. Recruitment has been a shambles for a while now, nothing we saw in the summer points to improvements and this must be the most unbalanced & incoherent (almost as bad as this post), uncommitted and aging squad we've had in a long time. Hopefully our DoF has been making several plans based on any number of scenario's. We have to; Mitigate the effect losing Ferguson and/or Ramsay would have Take into account the lack of commitment from the 8 midfielders with no contractual obligation beyond the end of the season. The imbalance inexperience and decimation through injury of our defence. The age of our attack. And the lack of players in their "prime years" throughout the squad. And this has to be balanced against; how shit January is as a transfer window that we have enough to ensure we don't get dragged into relegation worries not make rash decisions that fuck up future season with more aging or not good enough players all playing the same positions on high wages.

Started his career at Bristle Rovers

There's only 1 Calvin Ramsay thread. 1 Calvin Ramsay threadddddddddd.. There's onlyyyy 1.......

I had a real nightmare trying to throw my QR code onto the pitch in disgust after the weekend's game like. Impossible to get rid of them.

Just because you hear it everyday does not make it right. Mackay is not the victim of anything. He is a racist who got outed for his backward views. Nothing more.

None on this site would have a soft spot for the Huns, but mate... Give it a fucking rest about how much you hate the Huns and everything Hun related in nearly every post you write. I'm starting to think you many hate the Huns more than you love the Dons.

Never in doubt. Shat myself when I saw the former England striking coach giving advice on penalties though.

I moved away from other Aberdeen sites to avoid petty bickering, point-scoring, numbnut shite and now it's creeping in here. Mods, please kill this now or I'll probably slowly lose interest if I have to keep trawling through this shite.

Not so sure about that last sentence, from his first Interview I've felt Nisbet genuinely has some affection for the Dons and I think that will have grown. I also think he is very career focused now, he was talking in his last RTV interview about how much better he is looking after himself, and playing for Aberdeen got him back in the Scotland squad. I think he will want to stay unless a better career opportunity (and I've no idea what that looks like btw but I know it ain't Millwall) comes up not a salary 2bh. If we could get him for 750 k that would be a bargain I would say. He's only just turned 28 and we could easily get 4 good seasons out of him..... probably more given he's never been a player that has relied on pace.

Really hope the club start to target some Scottish players. Looks like we are likely to lose Jack McKenzie which would only leave Shinnie and Devlin as the only Scottish first team regulars. Massively important issue for me this. Not sure about the rest of you guys but for me, it's just not the same without a core of Scottish blood both in the squad and management team. A bit the same as when we had a national team filled with people with dodgy passports. I said previously (and was shot down by someone for it) that foreign players rarely work out for us/stick around for long and that has been proved so far in the main, aside from Miovski.

Over the piece you are correct, but by fuck scoring a worldly like that deep into add time and then not being able to see it out is tough to take. When all is said and done how many of us would have thought we would have completed our first round of games without defeat. Yes, performances have been disappointing in last couple of games but let's not knee jerk and start throwing individuals under the bus. We are still definitely work in progress.

It will be hard for him to get a career ending injury if he doesn't play though......

Who would have thought, on a weekend where we were away to Celtic, that we'd actually increase the gap on Rangers.

This was the most interesting thing, I watched all of the second half and Elfsborg were well worth their win. I would go as far as to say that despite their low possession there wasn't many points that they didn't look completely in control of the game. Malmo are clearly used to having lots of the ball and Elfsborg would let them have it in their own half (unless trying to regain just lost possession) but once into Elfsborgs half they kinda herd them into specific areas then pounce on them and invariably take the ball. Then they break. And every time they break with purpose, players flood forward and within a few seconds a lot of the time the defenders are facing their goal and panicking. One of the most notable things was there was a couple of passages of play where they had just taken the ball and they had be very tidy with it not to lose it again straight away. In other words don't let the low possession stat make you think Elfsborg can't pass the ball and keep it, they absolutely can and I'm sure could play a possession strategy if they so wished. The fact they don't wish to is what makes this such a very interesting setup and I genuinely can't recall seeing anything quite like it before. After watching that game I am now quite glad Thelin isn't coming till June, you could not come into a team midseason and try and implement this way of playing. It could also be argued the league cup group stage could provide a useful testing ground to what is going to be a drastic change in strategy for the first team.

So we're going to have to pay to get him?

You misread me Lightbulbetc, I believe we could have won the title a couple of times since the extraordinary 80's and I believe we can at least challenge going forward and win a cup or few along the way. That's the target isn't it? But we won't do it by employing a Hollywood manager at 10 times our salary and 100 times our player budget levels any more than we could by employing Andy Robertson, Gilmour and Lukaku. It will need a sustained period of good management, revenue from sales and Europe to fund the team, a few decent breaks in the market and a great team attitude. Idealistic I know but even after all my Dons supporting years I still live in hope!