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Are you talking about this stand?

was saying on the chat that i was annoyed that i had left the room and missed the first goal, as i thought that would probably be sods law and the only goal of the game. Happy to be proved wrong though

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Ach min, i dinnae want to get drawn into a tit-for-tat over Pittodrie as i view it as the wrong focus of debate (and i have tae go tae bed!), but i nonetheless think you fighting a lost cause there - even if we airdrop your 2 main New Douglas Park stands in, they only have a capacity of 5300 (the other 700 is provided by a temporary stand, the translucent grey blob in the top right of your overlay), or probably around 3500 and 1800 each. If we expand the 3500 to 4000, replicate it on the other side, and call 1800 2000, that's 10k. Even if you cram another 3K into the larger footprint at the other end and gave another 1k for the corners, thats 14K. That's still a good 4-6k short of what we need. Now, I'll admit that i am through necessity plucking those expanded numbers out the air, but i'll be happy to be corrected with more substantiated estimates in either direction. And that's without considering the cost of knocking everything down, the disruption to BAU, the loss of capital from selling the ground, the lack of room for other facilities, and the plethora of more technical issues raised by others in this thread (and which i'm nae really qualified to assess). Also, just for clarity, i'm nae for the Kingsford proposal as it stands - i think it has several issues to address around transport, and i think it was a case of making the most of limited choices with the sudden collapse of Loirston as an option. The club still has a way to go to make its case in more detail, and i hope they are in a position to come up with viable options or we will be forced into something even more remote. But, on balance from the evidence provided, i also think the club has no choice but to move from Pittodrie. I'd be happy to be proved wrong though. Personally, if we were to redevelop anywhere, I'd be delighted if we just gave up on all this NE focus and shifted to Kassam stadium

I'm really not sure what point you are making, other than illustrating how the Pittodrie footprint only has room for 2x New Douglas Parks (5400 not counting the temporary stand) plus a little more for what can be built in the slightly larger space at one end, presumably taking it up to around 12k. Or am i missing the point? Sorry if i am. Tom has already gone through a wealth of explanations as to what could be fitted on the site in this thread, especially if you dig back a few years (this thread has been going since 2011). I'm happy to defer to his view that while there might be room for some tweaking, its not going to give us much more than 12k, and its definitely not going to give us the 18k+ that we need. I think we really need to move on from viewing Pittodrie as viable and focus on the proposals for new locations that have been mooted.

That's nothing, just wait until you hear the real issues with a Pittodrie redevelopment, the ones above will seem ludicrous and childish in comparison.

Just to add to that, last year's 62 goals was our highest total since 1992/93. So 8 games to get 3 more to beat that record. We also at present have the highest goal difference since 92/93, and goals conceded is currently exactly HALF the total from last year (24) and the lowest (so far) since 1987/88. Quite good really.

Partick now only 14 points behind Sevco - zombies may be closer to 6th place than to 2nd by this time next week

'mon Well, St Johnstone, Partick and Tansey

Stadium DJ playing "KungFu Fighting" followed by "Eye of the Tiger" from Rocky at halftime :rofl: :rofl:

I shouldn't laugh but

Radio saying that Swanson and Foster both red carded and st Johnstone down to (at least) 9 men. Pity really as they were looking like catching Sevco. Maybe that's why Foster kicked off

St Johnstone kicking lumps out of... each other. Danny Swanson beating on Tricky Dicky Foster, evidently doesn't want him on his team any more

Cammy Smith gets an assist, Shankland hits the bar and Tansey nearly scores a peach. Dons players all having fun today.

Hemmin Tom, you dinnae half save me from having to type. The only thing i would add is: Sorry Jess but to be pedantic that bit is the very definition of the term acoustics. That's nae me nitpicking or being argumentative though, it's an area that many people vastly underestimate in terms of its significance and is one of my very few realms of (apparent) expertise edit - read that back and it sounds a bit more smug than it should've, sorry. It is an important factor to take into account though.

I may have misinterpreted this the first time i read it, how does she compare to Ash's missus?

He's just scored for St Mirren just as i was reading this

sevco 0 McGhee's ex 1

Tip for the future: name your account "100% Pro Pittodrie" so that you don't come across as needlessly obstructive. Expend all of your energy into coming up with feasible suggestions that make Pittodrie more viable and attractive than the other options. After all, you don't want folk to get the wrong end of the stick, and think you don't give a damn about Pittodrie but are just out to block the Kingsford option at all costs, do you?

Ooot sofa sofa pub 6-0: Mcginn to score two hattricks, be carried aloft from the field by adoring fans, have a sudden rush of emotion and sign a 6 year contract extension. And smile for the first time on camera.

I'd agree, i doubt its because Kingsford is better than Loirston. The club themselves clearly preferred Loirston as it was their first choice all along, Kingsford only became an option after Loirston rather dramatically fell through. (However, before 100%AK jumps on this, the club has also made pretty clear that in their view Loirston is no longer an option, and Kings Links/Pittodrie were non-starters. So the merits and issues with Kingsford are what we examine now, and try to resolve if possible). In terms of increased support: You could maybe argue that there's an element of fans realising that options are always going to be more limited than they would like, and are tempering their objections accordingly. You could equally argue an element of fans getting fed up with the length of the process, and just want it concluded. Or, as i mentioned, that the volume seems to have gone up in the debate, making it more polarised and both sides more obvious. It does seem unlikely that the increased support is due to it being a better option though. edit - ach, you've both just posted pretty much the same as i was typing this

Well, this is going to be a big test for McInnes this summer then - first key player lost since... Anderson? Robson? I'm amazed he's managed to keep the core of our original 2013 team (McGinn, Jack, Hayes, Rooney, Considine, Logan*) together for so long to be honest, it was inevitable we would lose someone eventually, i just hoped it would be at retirement age again (* i'd include Reynolds in there except we may not have lost the man but we do seem to have lost the player. Flood, Pawlett and Langfield weren't key by the time they left)

Poor Tansey, his signing has already been relegated to "but we've signed Tansey"

On the BBC site now. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39445213 Damn, i was hoping this was a standard "SunSport understands", like these previous understandings:

Aye, that's a fair point. The answer i think is that the conversation around Kingsford has become massively polarised in both directions compared to Loirston, somewhat to the detriment of actual debate. It's all gone a bit shouty.