OrlandoDon

In regards to Ferguson, I see his situation similar to Ryan jack. We won’t fully appreciate him until he’s gone, and he will move on to bigger better things. Would like to see him go the McKenna route, do well in the championship then an EPL move, which is what I expect from McKenna this summer if forest aren’t promoted.

Ojo Montgomery and Ruth start??? Why? Thought line up was based on players who will be here next year. Makes me even wonder if we have an option to buy Montgomery? Id rather see one or two of the young kids, even as shit as kennedy and mclennan are, I’d rather see them if they’ll be here next year.

I’m assuming it’s Barron plus two new center mids (replacing brown, Ferguson, ojo, mcgeough), and polvara off the bench. I also think dean Campbell has another year left on his contract. Not writing him polvara yet, he’s a young guy but has to be given a chance.

I actually wonder if right back may end up being his best position for us. He’s got the desire and engine to get up and down and is more of a defender that midfielder. He also lacks that bit of flair / creativity that mids need but right backs don’t need. Assuming we sell Ferguson, we have Barron and polvara in center mid, plus hopefully creative center mid or two signed. (Is dean Campbell back??) gallagher and bates plus a new center defender signed. Right back may be his best option??

If I was Ramsay I would certainly hope not. Getting the chance to train and possibly play with Alex Arnold, Salah, mane, and Diaz, or a modern day Ilfi, tansey, and Curtis main??? You choose!

Had a nice couple of touches but didn’t see much. But I stand by the three players in two positions not helping any of them play today. I’m more meaning my first impression is he’s a Ferguson type of player and a potential replacement for him rather than a flair Ryan Christie type player, Kenny McLean type passer etc….

Probably unfair to really judge given we are so limited in options, but the central three in midfield isn’t great balance. I’d almost say Dante could be fergusons replacement? Looks like three center mids who all are too similar, and I’d even suggest getting in each other’s way. Three guys in the space for two. Doesn’t help them play their own natural game.

We have center backs on the books. Not disagreeing we need another but we have internationalists who are off form on a shit team. we have no flair and creativity. We can’t create. Fix that and we’re a totally different team, which will take the pressure off the defense.

The forward isn’t the problem. It’s the creativity throughout the team, and I actually think Ramirez is a good player, even though he’s most likely away. He was starved of service for much of the year. I’d prefer Ramirez over Anderson, plus Bruce signed a three year deal last summer, we’d have to pay there. Our main priority should be two legit wingers (meaning better than kennedy and mclennan) and a creative attacking center mid. Or were you meaning Russel Anderson??

About to be released apparently!

If you want stats then be fair. I need every season he has played and how many penalties he gives away compared to teammates. I stick by what I said but if you insist on fact you have to assess his entire career and compare his stats to the rest of our team. Or you can just respect differing opinions.

You’re one of these guys who has to win an argument and demands facts. Andy is 35, coming back from a big injury, slow, and declining with age. And limited ability. Don’t see how anyone can argue with that. what facts do you have that back up your argument? Why would Andy be better than bates or Gallagher? You have nothing, you are just guessing. It’s just opinion and we disagree.

You mean miller behind McLeish? Teams haven’t played that way in years. It’s a flat 3 or 4 for the most part, you very rarely see a sweeper now.

I think we have to also consider that bates and Gallagher didn’t become bad defenders over night. Both, like Andy, have played for Scotland, and have more caps than Andy. On paper they are better players. both are playing for a shit team right now that is completely shot for confidence and skirting with a relegation battle. Who is to say how Andy performs given those circumstances. Andy played well on a good team, we’re miles away from that team now, and Andy is limited in pace, decision making, and distribution. It’s easy to say he’d be better than the current level, but playing for us these days is not an easy gig. anyway, shut out and a win today! Congrats!!

I’m not debating, it gets exhausting with people here who are blind to the obvious. Look up past results if you are so determined, big Andy was good at regularly gifting penalties. You can mourn the loss of Andy if you like but he’s no solution to our defensive issues. We need to look forward and find better players, and I’d even invest time and effort with bates and Gallagher since they’ll most likely be here next year. They’ve been pretty poor to date but if we’re stuck with them let’s try to improve them.

Agree that bates and Gallagher don’t look good but Andy was in decline before the injury. He could no longer play left back cos he was so slow, and that was before an injury. He’s old. He was an all or nothing defender before the injury who overcommitted and dove in to tackles because he wasn’t quick enough to recover or catch players. We don’t give away as many penalties with Andy out of the team, guessing there but big Andy gave away a fair few. anyway, agree with you, we’re stuck with bates and Gallagher but hopefully we sign a legit left sided central defender over the summer.

Agree with pretty much everything here but the last part. Totally agree about Gallagher and bates, but a 35 year old defender returning from injury is not the answer. As critical as I am of goodwin, he sees Andy in training daily and assesses his options. Considine hasn’t played a game in months and is returning from a significant injury, and is leaving the club. And was slowing and declining pre injury. What makes you so sure he’ll be an improvement?

Barron heavily involved, and eager to play and move the ball forward. Very lively and aggressive too. If we had two center mids like this each week we’d do well. Ferguson is too deep and too keen to go sideways. Best I’ve seen Barron play so far.

Today backs up my point re Ferguson. This is the type of game I really expect to see our POTY heavily involved in proceedings. 30 mins in and besides his first touch of the game shooting at kick off, where is he????

I’ll add that we won’t finish with 11…

Perfect example of our season. Plenty of the ball, minimal creativity and few real chances, things don’t go our way, and one down. How many times this season could I have posted this…

Who is giving up on goodwin?

Awful game. Zero creativity. Pretty much glad the season is coming to an end, and no point in talking about the game as it simply was more of the same shite. No wonder Ramirez wants to leave, I think he’s a decent player, but such shit service for much of the year. he lost interest in recent weeks much like many of us did. we were at our best over the last decade when we had the two best wingers outside of the old firm in mcginn and hayes, and the best center mids outside of them in jack and McLean. Plus an inspirational leader in shinnie. Throw in talented flair in Christie and to a lesser extent Maddison, plus a goal scorer in Rooney. very strong right back in Logan, dominating central defender in McKenna. And we had the best keeper in the league in Lewis. Not sure we even have 3 players that would clearly start for hearts hibs Dundee utd etc. very interesting summer ahead. lastly, haven’t seen a single thing that suggests goodwin is an upgrade on glass. Same players and same shit. Certainly hope he gets the summer right.

Totally disagree, it’s a free kick curling towards goal and Ferguson is running straight back to his own goal. It’s a good free kick that challenges defenders and while Ferguson was shit here, Lewis must come out and attack it. With his frame and ability that’s a punched clearance all day long, but he needs to be brave. Which he’s not any more.

Totally feel we need to punt Lewis this summer, a new keeper is a must. With a 6’6’’ keeper surely he should be more commanding. First goal was a header from about 3 yards off the far post and he’d enough time to attack it, second is exactly the same, he has the time to attack the ball and it’s a header from 6 yards. He’s a total pussy and isn’t commanding at all. In steady decline in my eyes, been poor all season.