OrlandoDon

About to be released apparently!

If you want stats then be fair. I need every season he has played and how many penalties he gives away compared to teammates. I stick by what I said but if you insist on fact you have to assess his entire career and compare his stats to the rest of our team. Or you can just respect differing opinions.

You’re one of these guys who has to win an argument and demands facts. Andy is 35, coming back from a big injury, slow, and declining with age. And limited ability. Don’t see how anyone can argue with that. what facts do you have that back up your argument? Why would Andy be better than bates or Gallagher? You have nothing, you are just guessing. It’s just opinion and we disagree.

You mean miller behind McLeish? Teams haven’t played that way in years. It’s a flat 3 or 4 for the most part, you very rarely see a sweeper now.

I think we have to also consider that bates and Gallagher didn’t become bad defenders over night. Both, like Andy, have played for Scotland, and have more caps than Andy. On paper they are better players. both are playing for a shit team right now that is completely shot for confidence and skirting with a relegation battle. Who is to say how Andy performs given those circumstances. Andy played well on a good team, we’re miles away from that team now, and Andy is limited in pace, decision making, and distribution. It’s easy to say he’d be better than the current level, but playing for us these days is not an easy gig. anyway, shut out and a win today! Congrats!!

I’m not debating, it gets exhausting with people here who are blind to the obvious. Look up past results if you are so determined, big Andy was good at regularly gifting penalties. You can mourn the loss of Andy if you like but he’s no solution to our defensive issues. We need to look forward and find better players, and I’d even invest time and effort with bates and Gallagher since they’ll most likely be here next year. They’ve been pretty poor to date but if we’re stuck with them let’s try to improve them.

Agree that bates and Gallagher don’t look good but Andy was in decline before the injury. He could no longer play left back cos he was so slow, and that was before an injury. He’s old. He was an all or nothing defender before the injury who overcommitted and dove in to tackles because he wasn’t quick enough to recover or catch players. We don’t give away as many penalties with Andy out of the team, guessing there but big Andy gave away a fair few. anyway, agree with you, we’re stuck with bates and Gallagher but hopefully we sign a legit left sided central defender over the summer.

Agree with pretty much everything here but the last part. Totally agree about Gallagher and bates, but a 35 year old defender returning from injury is not the answer. As critical as I am of goodwin, he sees Andy in training daily and assesses his options. Considine hasn’t played a game in months and is returning from a significant injury, and is leaving the club. And was slowing and declining pre injury. What makes you so sure he’ll be an improvement?

Barron heavily involved, and eager to play and move the ball forward. Very lively and aggressive too. If we had two center mids like this each week we’d do well. Ferguson is too deep and too keen to go sideways. Best I’ve seen Barron play so far.

Today backs up my point re Ferguson. This is the type of game I really expect to see our POTY heavily involved in proceedings. 30 mins in and besides his first touch of the game shooting at kick off, where is he????

I’ll add that we won’t finish with 11…

Perfect example of our season. Plenty of the ball, minimal creativity and few real chances, things don’t go our way, and one down. How many times this season could I have posted this…

Who is giving up on goodwin?

Awful game. Zero creativity. Pretty much glad the season is coming to an end, and no point in talking about the game as it simply was more of the same shite. No wonder Ramirez wants to leave, I think he’s a decent player, but such shit service for much of the year. he lost interest in recent weeks much like many of us did. we were at our best over the last decade when we had the two best wingers outside of the old firm in mcginn and hayes, and the best center mids outside of them in jack and McLean. Plus an inspirational leader in shinnie. Throw in talented flair in Christie and to a lesser extent Maddison, plus a goal scorer in Rooney. very strong right back in Logan, dominating central defender in McKenna. And we had the best keeper in the league in Lewis. Not sure we even have 3 players that would clearly start for hearts hibs Dundee utd etc. very interesting summer ahead. lastly, haven’t seen a single thing that suggests goodwin is an upgrade on glass. Same players and same shit. Certainly hope he gets the summer right.

Totally disagree, it’s a free kick curling towards goal and Ferguson is running straight back to his own goal. It’s a good free kick that challenges defenders and while Ferguson was shit here, Lewis must come out and attack it. With his frame and ability that’s a punched clearance all day long, but he needs to be brave. Which he’s not any more.

Totally feel we need to punt Lewis this summer, a new keeper is a must. With a 6’6’’ keeper surely he should be more commanding. First goal was a header from about 3 yards off the far post and he’d enough time to attack it, second is exactly the same, he has the time to attack the ball and it’s a header from 6 yards. He’s a total pussy and isn’t commanding at all. In steady decline in my eyes, been poor all season.

What am I missing here? Why are we naming a squad to face Poland and wales/Austria when we aren’t playing Ukraine until June?? Wasn’t that when the game was moved to?? I get the friendly but why are we calling it a squad for the wales/Austria game?

Well, yesterday was the first day I could go to work without wearing a mask in forever. Still have to put it on when I go inside but LA county finally changed guidelines. what limitations/guidelines still apply in Scotland??

Nobody is asking for or expects us to do anything financially irresponsible. I don’t see us as that club anyway, and don’t think we have been for close to 20 years. What Dundee did in the past means fuck all to me, plus they went to shit financially anyway. I don’t expect or want that. What I am asking is that we explore every opportunity. And as I repeatedly say, if you don’t ask you don’t get. What’s the worst that can happen, we get told to fuck off. And as I keep saying, regardless of money, why does Charlie Nicholas come to us? London and a top club like arsenal to Aberdeen?? I didn’t expect that. We were not Ferguson’s dons by then. never heard of the Celtic manager until they signed him. And look at the players they are bringing in. they could have easily gone for a predictable premiership reject but failing with Eddie Howe, they went out and were creative. Seems to be working for them. So far. While we are on a different financial level to Celtic, let’s be equally ambitious and creative within our constraints. Hiring glass was ambitious and risky, but it was clear to most if not all of us that he didn’t have the experience. It showed. Learn from that. Goodwin may be up and coming but he isn’t experienced either. He hasn’t achieved a single thing at st mirren other than preventing them from being shite. No cup, cup finals, or Europe. The expectation and pressure in that job is totally different to us. I just don’t see that much appeal to him. He may be great in the future, he may even end up shite this year and st mirren finish nearer the bottom than top of the league. ross in not unlike mcinnes. He has proven he’s capable. Lennon is capable too. Goodwin just doesn’t have it for me. Yet. At the same time, I hope we are creative and look outside of the token fishbowl where we can all guess the candidates. I hate being linked to the same dour bunch. Again. Sorry to keep saying, shoot for the moon, but be responsible financially. Can we afford OGS? Probably not. Duncan Ferguson? Unlikely. But why not ask? Leicester won the league. Never saw that coming. Villa just signed coutinho. Erickson to Brentford. Money talks but it’s still surprise signings. Why not someone special to Aberdeen? I do feel we are an appealing job and think there’s a good one out there for us. If we look and if we ask.

God forbid they aim high. Can I suggest they don’t deserve better than Yogi Hughes? You should have a word there and set them straight.

Reading reports, no clue how accurate, that we are discussing compensation with st mirren. Blown away by this if goodwin is our guy. most want a manager with experience and say that’s where glass failed. Is a stint at alloa and a couple of years at st mirren good enough experience? Does that truly transfer to managing us? Hasn’t won anything, hasn’t managed outside of Scotland, no European experience. Has he even experienced a cup final, too lazy to check? I’d even value the battle hardened experience of being sacked before. Surely we should be looking at all of the above, plus a manager with national and international connections. While I’m not saying Lennon or Ross are the answer, they are more qualified than goodwin. I see goodwin as slightly more experienced than glass and coaching st mirren to not be shite doesn’t win me over. as I mentioned before, goodwin is the flavor of the month, not unlike tommy Wright or callum Davidson. I think we should be aiming for better.

You keep running to it’s stupid and it’s ridiculous. It’s not. If you don’t ask you don’t get. You run to the money argument but you’re not in football, don’t know the personnel, and make assumptions. Your assumptions may be correct but you, ultimately, have no idea. I’ve never met ole personally and don’t know his bank balance, pretty sure he could manage us for free if he wanted. That is a silly argument, but you don’t know people and their mindset and ambitions. He was successful at molde. Most fail at man utd. my argument for Charlie Nicholas had nothing to do about money. He was the hottest player in British football, had a shit time at arsenal, and we asked. I’m sure at the time we could have argued he’d never come to us. you seem narrow minded and unambitious, but you see it as realistic. I don’t see why you want to limit our options or outlook. Asking Gerard, lampard, Guardiola, or klopp, that’s stupid. Fuck knows what ole is doing and thinking these days. I don’t want ole, but in hiring a new manager we ask anyone and everyone if we think it’s a good idea. Aim high. Bring some passion life and excitement to the club. Glad we asked the Norwegian guy if reports are accurate, he was intriguing. goodwin has done absolutely nothing in football. And has very limited managerial experience, never mind with a club with our finances and expectation. Perhaps he has a shit year next year and gets st mirren relegated. Or us? I want someone with experience, has won something, and has good far reaching contacts. Has goodwin even coached outside of Scotland, nope. He’s been in Scotland for the best part of 12 years, is that ambition? He’s a modern day callum Davidson or tommy Wright. Even mark McGhee. In fact, those guys are more qualified and have been more successful. Don’t want any of them I will add.

I’m also curious to know who you think is appropriate for us. Given you think we need to be realistic and not aim too high, you think Goodwin, Adams, Lambert, Ross, or Lennon will be an inspiring signing. To me, while all have had varying degrees of success, they are, to me, like dating your mates ex burd who he just dumped. I’d rather hit on supermodels until one says yes. And I’ll take it a step further, and feel free to call me stupid, maybe I am. I’m walking away from a six figure job and moving to florida. I want to be happy in life and that’s not happening in LA any more. Prioritizing health, happiness, and family. Don’t have a job yet but things will work out. Not everyone is all about money, people still value opportunity and happiness. Aberdeen is a good city and our club manager is a good job, and maybe a higher profile candidate will see that.

Don’t agree with you at all. Do I think we can sign Ronaldo or Messi even though they are past their prime, no. But approaching an out of work manager, why not? Or someone who may want to blood their management skills for the first time? You want us to only consider ‘realistic’ targets? What does that mean? Goodwin, Adams, maybe john Hughes? is lambert even ‘our league’ to you? Think big. Successful people dream big and shoot for the moon. If it works great, if not at least we tried.

Connor Barron a young Ryan Fraser? Doesn’t look too bad.