Kowalski

So folk are finding jokes about Rangers (admittedly not particularly funny jokes) offensive now are they?

[tuppenceworth] Fuck me lads (not literally) - it's just the fucking internet. I've just had a look through the post Caledonia had removed and it was fairly harmless (and mildly amusing but most of it wasn't very funny). Not sure why it was removed but I suggest the toys are put back in the pram by all concerned. [/tuppenceworth]

Scotland on Sunday rundown on where each club's preferences might lie for the upcoming vote: ABERDEEN The Dons have been bounced into the voting-against-accepting-a-newco-Rangers-into-the-SPL camp by a support implacably opposed to them taking this course. After a poll by the club’s Trust revealed 97 per cent were against the move, Pittodrie chief executive Duncan Fraser maintained their “views and feelings” would be “taken into account” and that the “integrity of football...must be central to any decision.” One of three clubs now considered to hold a settled position. CELTIC The Scottish champions have no option but to register a “no” vote. They must serve natural justice as their support demands of them as to do otherwise would precipitate a collapse of their season ticket numbers. Yet, if they were to help bring about a hiatus in the top flight rivalry with their ancient adversaries, it would force them to take a thumping financial hit running to millions more than any other club as the other cost of that would be the loss of the veto afforded by them twinning with Rangers to sustain the 11-1 voting structure. DUNDEE UNITED The tone of chairman Stephen Thompson’s language has noticeably changed in recent days. Last week, he made much of having to recognise, above all, the feelings of his fanbase, which is hostile to re-admission of the reconstituted Ibrox club. Talk of a complete Sky withdrawal has resulted in him now giving voice to a need to recognise the importance of television money. Without it, he said, “some clubs would face insolvency”, adding: “The smaller the club the greater the need for TV money, so it’s important for us.” Important enough for Thompson, with heavy heart, perhaps to try to sell his support the club’s endorsement of SPL status, but with stiff sanctions attached, for Rangers 2012. HEART OF MIDLOTHIAN A club that toiled to pay its players’ wages on time last season is hardly likely to be wowed at the prospect of any reduction in its revenues. Especially when they are still seeking £800,000 from Rangers for the Lee Wallace transfer. However, it would go against everything that Vladimir Romanov has previously preached if he were to vote in one of the Glasgow “mafia” after they have been shown to have used tax dodges to sustain their dominance, and that could hold the key in the final analysis for the Tynecastle club. HIBERNIAN Chairman Rod Petrie’s “sporting integrity cannot be obtained for any price” remains the soundbite that absolutely nails the Leith club to a position of not accepting a newco Rangers. In most projections, a prudently run Hibs would not be one of the major losers if forced to redraw budgets to compensate for the fiscal reductions inherent in losing the Ibrox club, while the unstinting backing of Tom Farmer would allow them to cover any shortfall in the immediate term anyway. INVERNESS Chairman Kenny Cameron took umbrage to suggestions earlier in the week that they had made up their minds to back a newco application from Rangers because they could not afford the drastic drop-off in revenues predicted by some if that were not approved. “Any speculation is purely that and we find it strange that some seem to know how ICTFC would vote under certain circumstances – they must have a crystal ball,” he said. Must be considered one of the clubs whose vote remains up for grabs. KILMARNOCK Chairman Michael Johnston is a man alone among his SPL cohorts in making it plain that there must be a Rangers in the Scottish top flight and that commercial considerations must trump sporting integrity. He has further stated that the new Rangers must not start next season with any points or financial penalties – these believed to be a possible trade-off for entry for some clubs – in having already been punished enough. MOTHERWELL The Fir Park club are understood to be seeking assurances over the broadcasting rights before arriving at any decision on a new Rangers. Their fan ownership model makes them more beholden to the mood of their masses, which has appeared insurrectionist if they do not say “no to a newco”. Another club whose position may be considered to be in a state of flux. ROSS COUNTRY The newly promoted Highland side will increase revenues next season whether or not they have Rangers to play in their first tilt in the top flight. Chairman Roy MacGregor said he has taken a “calculated risk” on his budget that is not dependent on income that could be attached to the presence of an Ibrox club in the top flight. MacGregor’s largesse is what County count on. The fact he has said as the “new kid” he will listen to others could make for the likelihood that he serves sporting intergity if it is the case for doing so that is made most passionately by his peers. ST JOHNSTONE The one Scottish top-flight club with cash in the bank, they could survive any downturn in the economic viability. As chairman Steven Brown has been quick to point out, the Perth side don’t need a Rangers because they spent many seasons in the First Division balancing their books without them. Yet with Brown also describing the potential loss of the Ibrox club top the top flight as a “disaster” it is thought he is one of those who is likely to be swayed were swingeing tarriffs attached to SPL entry for a newco. ST MIRREN His fuliminating “the law is an ass” response to Rangers’ challenge in the Court of Session to the sanctions imposed on them by the SFA judicial panel made the Paisley club’s chairman Stewart Gilmour the most outspoken critic of what he saw as the Ibrox club’s reckless disregard of football’s jurisdiction. That is believed to have hardened his attitude towards a newco Rangers. And even though he is in the process of selling the club on to a local fan body, with the vote set to come before the £1.5m buy-out earmarked for 4 July, it is thought a “no” vote would not go against the thinking of the club’s hardcore and future owners.

Strangely enough i think his name has been linked. I wouldn't have a problem with that!

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spl/rangers-liquidation-sfa-league-merger-could-drop-rangers-just-one-division-1-2359952 What a pile of shite.

If anyone can get into the AFC website then seemingly there is a tour to Germany: http://www.afc.co.uk/articles/20120615/afc-pre-season-programme_2212158_2811955

Yesterday was surely the most dramatic day in the history of Rangers. Then again the club is only 1 day old...

Saw Django Django in Dundee on Wednesday night, and I thought they were excellent. A band that is surely going places. Primal Scream tonight

http://sport.stv.tv/football/106233-peterhead-chairman-would-welcome-new-rangers-in-division-3/

Walter is playing a dangerous game. RTC are hinting at his dodgy involvement in EBTs.

But you're referring to oldco? The 8-10 weeks is the administration of the oldco - Newco can surely apply, no? (admittedly they have a hell of a lot to do to get their act together)

Is that it?

Sky Sports reporting that McCoist won't be resigning.

Redknapp just been spotted at Glasgow airport.

Pictures: http://www.afc.co.uk/articles/20120614/new-201213-adidas-home-kit_2212158_2811078

Must be hellish being a hun, even more so than normal.

New strip gets a Meh from me too, just seen it on the back of the P&J. White shorts!

Just read the article. There are quotes from Duncan Fraser but none saying that the Dons will definitely vote against newco, however the P&J seem adamant that this is what is going to happen.

Cracks appearing? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-18421606

Wonder how season ticket sales are going. Have many renewed? Discount ends on Monday and we don't know whether newco will be in the league or not, and probably won't know for another couple of weeks.