Irvine was a poor player who managed to get into a great team.
Ifil and Considine are poor players who managed to get into a poor team. Neither them or Diamond were as good as Irvine was IMHO.
The boy mezzanine has a pretty thankless task to be honest. AFC, Charlie Allan, the police, some sections of the AFC support, are all against the Ultras, so it's probably for the best (sadly).
Good post Jager.
I think you are seriously undervaluing the time and effort these guys went to raising money, creating the flags, and being in the ground many hours before kick off hanging banners (not just their own) and preparing their displays. And I think you are well wide of the mark saying "without giving anything appreciable back" IMHO. But never mind, there will be fuck all now from now on!
Got to say, some of their displays were amazing and really helped generate an atmosphere at what is a morgue at times these days. The European nights a couple of seasons ago were superb, and their tribute to the helicopter victims was quite something.
While they appear to have had some cretins in their group (e.g. the boy with the flare), some were far too quick to criticise the Red Ultras who at least make some attempt to liven up the atmosphere.