Kowalski

Who would you prefer?

Not sure it'll boost the crowd much but agree with your first sentence. I have no reason to believe that he won't play a more positive style of football as Scotland manager. Time to give him all our support.

Can't say I've been in an HMV for a long time but I do order online from them now and again as they had started to compete with play.com and Amazon but I fear they have left it too late. They are such an iconic chain (the Oxford Street store is amazing) and it'll be a real shame if they do end up going to the wall. With One-Up set to close too, do we have any record shops in Aberdeen!? The Union St store will no doubt turn into yet another fucking bookies.

Barton seems to have accused him of being a coke head. EDIT: Some of it is here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/queens-park-rangers/9801632/Joey-Barton-and-former-Liverpool-and-Man-City-midfielder-Dietmar-Hamann-in-frankly-hilarious-Twitter-altercation.html#

I don't think it's a good idea if Monty becomes 2014 Ryder Cup captain. The days of captains doing it more than once has passed (although Tom Watson has captained before). I can see why they are maybe considering him, as Tom Watson is probably going to be a very tough captain to come up against, but it's probably time for somebody else to lead Europe. I guess we'll find out tomorrow afternoon.

Sounds like a fucking shambles as usual. Why try and rush something through that appears to be fairly unpopular amongst large numbers of supporters and now some football club chairmen as well?

Won't be long before the chairman is on the blower with "Houston, we have a problem". (I'll get my coat)

Arab sitting next to me is delighted by this news

Why would they want him?

Fair dinging down in Aberdeen this morning.

He didn't bother his arse every time Jimmy was here either (see Queen of the South semi final). He's a rather unlikable cunt.

And this month's prize fud award goes to...

Friday night is not a football night. Fact.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/green-rangers-could-use-sex-discrimination-laws-to-sue-uefa.1357906317 No really, you couldn't make it up!

Savile offended at 13 hospitals, including Great Ormond Street in London, and one offence was recorded at Wheatfields Hospice in Leeds in 1977 His youngest victim was eight and the oldest was 47 The earliest allegation is from 1955 in Manchester and the last in 2009 Offences were carried out at the BBC between 1965 and 2006 - including at the last Top of the Pops recording Peak offending took place between 1966 and 1976 Some 73% of victims were under 18 Most of those abused were aged 13 to 16 There is "no clear evidence" he operated in paedophile ring, although "whether he was part of an informal network" is still being investigated Astonishing that he wasn't taken to task on this while he was alive.

A reminder of the supporters survey that was conducted to gauge fans preferences for league reconstruction: http://sonstrust.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/supportersdirect2012surveypresentation.pdf Are they even going to both consulting the fans with their 12-12-18 idea?

I personally think he's better off staying at ICT than Barnsley and it arguably shows more ambition. He could ICT into Europe.

Surely there's only one manager at Barnsley at any one time?

Notes on Pittodrie Meeting of Supporters’ Group Representatives – 15th December 2012 Attendees Club – George Yule; Ian Jack: Duncan Fraser. Reps of various supporter groups and DST members. Apologies – Chris Gavin 1.Opening Ian Jack opened the meeting and initially passed over to DF to provide an update on activities over the last 6 months or so for the SPL and SPL Board from the Rangers situation through to the current league reconstruction proposals. This, and the further, question areas were:- 2.SPL/ SPL Board matters update DF gave a detailed and extensive background and update to the numerous matters that have occurred in the last 6 months or so. Key points were:- -The loss of Rangers to the SPL was a detriment to the central income re impact on overseas distribution rights and so on. DF and others met with broadcasters and agreed terms that were acceptable to all parties whereby the contract could be locked in for a longer period and there is a negative financial impact v income, and respective shares, for the bigger SPL teams, including AFC. -As a result this influenced the further debate relating to voting rights per decision type. AFC’s commercial perspective is that they recognise that for the good of the game there will need to be some give up from the SPL central income pot but, having already given up some of their income, AFC is not prepared to give away a whole load more without suitable league reconstruction and fairer distribution of income agreements being tabled and settled as part of the further negotiations required. Hence, there is no tie up with Celtic on this but like Celtic AFC wish the wider debates to be had and sorted that would not need to take place were the voting rights merely changed as initially indicated i.e. the wider issues would then be ignored and not be tabled for discussion. -To that end smaller working groups of SPL clubs have been challenged to review all matters and come forward with suitable proposals for agreement. This has re-clarified that a 16 team top league just does not stack up financially as too much income would be lost due to less games and less meaningful games amongst other relevant points. -Accordingly the 24/18 SPL proposals that develop into 12/12, then 8/8/8 were produced and unanimously agreed by SPL clubs. This was followed by discussions with the SFL and SFA as to identify the fundamental principles for each group and what was available for negotiation. In essence there is a decent level of cross body agreement already re e.g. play-offs, promotion and relegation; pyramid structure etc.. -No decision has been made as to governing bodies in the future and/or the leagues being re-branded but the next steps are to have further meetings and thrash out the details with a possible start date in 2013/14. DF informed the room that all clubs and governing bodies were working together. -AFC accepts that they, and other SPL clubs, will need to give up income to the lower leagues but are prepared to do so for the good of the game. However, local initiatives and efforts to replace that income will be needed. 3.What about summer football and are Sky keen on that? Summer football has been raised various times and AFC are supportive. However, it is not a priority and so not specifically included in the above proposals but it is hoped it will be specifically discussed in depth 1-2 years after any change is effected. Sky are open to this but it is not critical to them. The ESPN contract expires at the end of the year and their future intent is not known. GY advised that AFC’s preference with regard to discussions (short-term) with the broadcasters is more about the scheduling i.e. kick off times and date changes for games and so on. 4.What about more Friday night football? Again AFC is supportive but have not been involved further. General agreement in place to continue this, but policing concerns are relevant here and are still a barrier as to what games re teams, and where, will be considered. 5.What does AFC get as a result of Celtic’s success in the Champions League and is there any prospect of European income being added to the central pot for distribution across the Scottish game. No, this income is retained by the club concerned and will not come under a central distribution set up. However, for the SPL, because of the stage in the Champions League that Celtic has reached, it will receive a payment of £1M from the UEFA Solidarity payment pool, to be distributed across all the other SPL teams, excluding Celtic, to compensate for any disruption to fixtures as a result of CL games. 6.Will there be more signings in January? As things stand there are no available funds for more players despite the extensive injury list which is a concern. 7.What is the truth regarding the Ryan Fraser situation? Discussions, including an increased contract offer, were on-going from August to October. At that time the player submitted his expectations and AFC responded with an offer close to those terms. The player asked for more time to consider this offer and after further discussion he has indicated he wants to wait and see what develops elsewhere ie to keep his options open but AFC cannot afford to apply a wait and see position as plans need to be made for the future. Accordingly a formal offer was made which RF subsequently rejected which AFC communicated to the media as AFC needs to move on and focus on players who want to play for the club and with economics and finances being as they are all clubs will need to reduce their player pool budgets next season. -RF should not be vilified for this as he is within his rights to make this decision and so will leave with AFC’s best wishes and time will tell if the decision was the right one for Ryan. 8.So, did the club act too late on this? No, the future of young players and subsequent contract discussions is an on-going and continuous exercise. 5-6 other young players have already agreed contract extensions this season and discussions are taking place with others, not yet in the first team pool. The club is also restricted to the terms of contracts, per age of the player concerned, but this is another reason why discussions need to take place all the time to make sure that the permitted time frames are met. 9.(This was an external to the meeting question asked) – Should Ryan Fraser, and others in the same situation, not give an interview to Red TV explaining their decision to supporters in terms of being open and honest to the paying public? No, this would be totally unfair to Ryan and a bad example set that could discourage parents from letting their children sign with AFC at much younger ages if this was expected of them a few years later plus we know that it will happen again in the future as England is a Category 1 country but Scotland is only a Category 2 one and as England has set up an U21 league, they will keep plundering the Scottish leagues for young talent that is further progressed than their Academy players given that they have played many more games in the SPL even at such a young age. For similar reasons UEFA is very unlikely to change the compensation rules. 10.What is the latest on the plans for new training facilities via the University link up. Plus any stadium update? Negotiations regarding the training facilities are at a mature stage reflective of a mutual willingness to find a solution to make it happen which is good news but as the £ figures involved are big it will take a bit of time yet to conclude any deal. Hopefully there will be an announcement in early 2013. -Little progress on the stadium front and appearing less and less likely that an agreement can be reached with ACC over the Loirston Loch site but there will be a further meeting soon with planning officers to review the situation again. 11.The mobile app (web site) does not appear to be working following a recent upgrade- Not aware of this but we’ll look into it – thanks for the feedback. There are many improvements required to the website as advised at the last Forum meeting 12.Supplementary Q – what is the club’s view on the atmosphere created from section S (South Stand) at the Motherwell cup-tie and can previous suggestions re changes to the Merkland (sitting and standing section) and RDS and Main Stand etc be considered again to change for season 13/14 given we aren’t leaving Pittodrie any time soon?- The attendance at the Motherwell game was very disappointing. We accept there can be reasons but attendances are still lower than fans indicated in the summer that they would be and need to be increased to support the club’s finances. -That said, the atmosphere created by both sets of fans, plus the band and the drum was great and something we’d like to see more of. Accordingly, the club will investigate further what can be done to help create the best atmosphere possible.

I think it sounds a load of shite to me and I don't think its what the majority of fans want, but since when did anyone ever listen to us.

Does anyone have any idea what this mean's for AFC's new stadium?

Not sure about this year's suit...