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Could've done a job for us. Oh...

Bloody hell, were you sitting on your spacebar when you typed this?

Not really, if you'd said you'd f*cked her however...

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No, you crossed your wires. You said one thing, then the other. I was getting pretty confused as well. It's okay, we'll just agree that I was right and you were wrong.

I was replying to the first quote as I've pointed out in which you didn't specify strikers as such, the point that came across to me, and I'm sure others, was that Aberdeen do not produce their own players. Even though I've since pointed out a number of players that Aberdeen have brought the ranks, you've now changed it again and are dismissing these players, narrowing it down to strikers. I agree we are sh*te at bringing through strikers, for whatever reason, but that wasn't the initial point I was questioning. My sincerest apologies for missing a point that wasn't there but you've since repeatedly said that we don't produce players, not just specifically strikers. So taking all of this into account, I think it's fair of me to question your original point. Yes, I can process new information, but I like to clear everything up instead of creating new debate over the top of points that haven't yet been cleared up. I'll take heed of the new information when I feel I've gotten to the bottom of your initial point. On the goalkeeper and striker front, I agree, but it's worth remembering that these positions are the hardest to fill in for any team. I can't think of many teams that are constantly bringing through decent goalkeepers and strikers. What constitutes them being 'worth a fuck'? Anderson, Clark, Hart and McNaughton are players that could've, and should've, been 'worth a fuck' but managed to leave for a lot less than their true worth. Not because they're sh*te, but because of the boards incompetence. I think it's fair to assume that Diamond will move on if he develops as we expect, so hopefully the board will get this right and we sell him for a pretty penny, which should make him 'worth a fuck'. Okay, I take it that you haven't seen Mackie playing before he signed for Aberdeen, so can't truly comment on whether or not he's improved.

No worries Kelt, let me see it. Anyways, now that we've cleared that up, I'd like it if you could answer my other question about Mackie. Had you seen him play before he turned out for Aberdeen?

Do gingers walk differently?

Had you ever seen Mackie play before he signed for Aberdeen? So do they improve or not? I ignored that, because your original quote wasn't about forwards, it was about Aberdeen not improving players. I've since shown you players who Aberdeen have obviously improved, but now you're ignoring that and askng me to name, specifically, forwards we've improved.

I'm sure I posted this already 1 Celtic 2 Rangers 3 Aberdeen 4 Hearts 5 Dundee United 6 Motherwell --------- 7 Falkirk 8 Hibs 9 ICT 10 Kilmarnock 11 St. Mirren --------- 12 Hamilton

No, I'd personally play Maguire and Miller up-front. I think there's potential there and a good partnership could come out of it if they're given a run of games together. I'm not a fan of Mackie's, never rated the lad but I'm in agreement with Kowalski's post. Point in bringing up the same thread over and over again? I might go dig up my 'Donstalk in a thread' post from a while back. Anyway, KKK-chat blocked at your work or something?

A. Well why not just dig out the old thread and continue it? B. Until such time as the management/board feel he's surplus to requirements, it would seem so C. You're not the manager though, thank f*ck for that

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Walking Jager where?

Big Brother = Shower of c*nts Rangers FC = Shower of c*nts

Aye, what the f*ck, £75k they got as well.

:-\ How, EXACTLY, would they not be improving from the time they first sign as a youngster, to the time they play in the first team? Are you saying that Aberdeen take on youngsters, play them in the youth/reserve sides for 3/4/5 years whilst they don't improve at all, then promote them to the first team?

Take it you've got Dragon's Den on the telly as well?

Came through the ranks at Aberdeen The other four you hadn't. Throw Derek Young in there as well. Five players that've came through the ranks, regardless of our opinion of their ability Plays in the first team, and I'm sure his game has improved from when he was younger. See my point on Considine He's better than he was when he played for Colony Park Played central midfield a lot And I don't disagree, but they've all came through the ranks and I think it's fair to say their games have improved since the day they first signed Zander Diamond. Last season. That is all. No, it's not.

Diamond, Anderson, Hart and McNaughton are the four that most would agree were our major successes. Considine, Foster, Mackie and Clark all came through the ranks as well. By no means am I saying that they are the best players in the world, but they've came through our ranks and play most weeks. And how have you demonstrated it is a realistic statement? By pointing out players that haven't made the grade? That has no reflection on Maguire's game whatsoever.

Mackie is sh*t JMG What does Willie Miller do? Where are our 10 signings? Considine is sh*t Youth? What youth? Stewart Milne's a greedy c*nt F*ck you Maybury, sign or f*ck off Duff by name, Duff by nature Playing Jamie Smith, let him rest for f*cks sake Jimmy Foster is sh*t F*cking holidays when he should've been working on signing players

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The point was more to do with 'improving his game', as his game is bound to improve if he's getting in the first team and playing, especially alongside Miller who is the perfect foil for Maguire's game. I doubt Gareth Southgate and Steve Bruce would've sent Josh Walker and Sone Aluko up here last season if they didn't think it would help improve their game. The examples you've pointed out are great examples of players who've been hyped up but not fulfilled their supposed potential, but I don't think that Aberdeen are wholly at fault for that. I mean, it's not as if they've gone on to bigger and better things once they've left us, they either weren't good enough (Prunty), didn't progress as expected (Michie), or just didn't have the right attitude (Mike/Bagshaw). That's football, and this happens at every club season after season. I also believe that there's a huge amount of pressure and expectation put on Aberdeen players (rightly or wrongly so), and it must be hard for young players to live up to expectations. The previous successes of the club during the 80's and early 90's are still fresh in the memory for most, and the likes of Eoin Jess and Scott Booth are players that a majority of the support still remember as coming through the ranks. They were our own, and we've not produced talent like that since, so someone's got to take the flak for that. Don't they? It's no hidden secret that our youth system was in need of a major overhaul, as far as we know the club is doing a lot to address this , but it's worth remembering that we have produced our own in recent years.