rocket_scientist

I saw that St Mirren got their first win of the season last night. Aye, December. 15 games in a shit league. Their no. 1 was on the bench I see as the preferred keeper last night was no. 12 Scott Gallacher. And yet successive AFC managers kept on picking Langfield and many fans defended the hapless fool. The effect of managers not picking the best side or putting them out in the wrong formations is immeasurably devastating. I wonder if not having Clangers in goal was the inspiration they needed? Having him behind you must induce fear and loathing, not that the managers appointed by Milne at AFC could see the obvious. Maybe McInnes finally doing something right (now that the horses have bolted) was the catalyst for five goals last night. Plus a really shit opposition of course.

Agree. Jack's biggest attribute is that he rarely passes the ball to the opposition in a league where most teams can't string 3 or 4 passes together. He also makes himself available more often than most before invariably making a short nothing ball to a team mate. I expect a quality midfielder to have some requisite skills (other than not fucking up) including making telling passes, creating goals, reading and intercepting opposition moves and throwing in a goal now and again. I expect a captain to lead by example and show hunger, desire and fight, qualities Jack simply doesn't have. A total waste of space despite early promise. Another talent totally mismanaged.

Got to hand it to Deek. Great result. How he achieved it was brilliant innovation. 1. Firstly he didn't start Shinnie in his best position but who would have had the imagination to start Hayes there instead? It's not the first time we've seen Johnny at LB but possibly the first time he's started there? 2. Then he demonstrates great adaptability and flexibility in changing it early doors, a genius tactical switch which presumably totally flummoxed the even more hapless manager on the opposition bench. 3. Like ICT and Partick, McInnes played only 2 of the 4 available CB's, a move which although common sense to many, one that he erred in for every other game this season, preferring to shoehorn Consi into LB instead. Only a fool fails to learn from his mistakes but the bigger fool keeps on stubbornly making the same ones. 4. Dropping AOC at Ibrox was inspired. He has been the best performing CB this season but consigning him to the bench for the most important fixture of our season so far shows the strength of the manager, showing the squad that nobody is immune from the possibility (apart from Lewis, Logan and Consi). His one game absence meant he came back hungrier and got himself on the scoresheet last night so it was well worth sacrificing the Ibrox game for the greater good, the home tie v. Killie. It also shows how strong McInnes is for meting out punishment, O'Connor's rare mistake once the horse had bolted at Hampden being the scapegoat. 5. Sacrificing the final AND Ibrox by keeping McGinn on the bench must have worked wonders. It's not every day AFC score 5 against one of the country's best teams, the SPFL being the cream of Scotland. The shambles of the last 2 weeks (+ the weather) added to the missing thousands last night but this result, complete with tactical master strokes will bring them all back for St Johnstone. Apart from me again. Fuck that fixture. Always a bore fest.

The problem is institutional. It began at boarding school for many. Boarding schools themselves are sick by nature of course. But when puberty occurs and the hormones are running wild, the "masters" turn a blind eye to the sexual humiliation of minors by their peers. It's called bullying in anyone else's language but considered a natural rite of passage by these sick cunts, something many of them went through themselves. The frisson of excitement. Entering the unknown. Fucked up poovery if you ask me but almost inevitable given the culture. Not all abusers are ex boarding school but all abusers were abusees. And many boarding school sickos continue to get their kicks in adulthood from abusing others and with wealth and institutional power, they create opportunities to satiate their sickness. And we wonder why the police and the Freemasons are so secretive? So would you be if you were so damaged by your environment that you're allowed to commit crimes against humanity.

Yes from me. Would even go out my way to do her. Bet she loves it. Would walk from Tesco Newtonhill to that hotel in Altens to service her need.

It's not a question of personal preference 1903. I just physically couldn't get it up her. Revolting creature.

I would walk from Charleston to China and back, seven times, for Mrs May. That's how far I would go not to dip my wick in that sick bitch. Yes it ticks the boxes in that it's got a pulse etc. but there are exceptions to most rules. That is a disgusting piece of humanity and I would consider trading some other self-flagellatory punishments to save the time involved walking that far to avoid it. Actually I would walk a lifetime like David Carradine, although the circumstances where I was being forced to fuck it escape even my imagination.

This yank at Swansea is the biggest joke I've ever seen in football management. Even Stewrat Milne hasn't been this duped. How the fuck did he get past an interview?

Very good question. Thought provoking. In my view, it must be ego because nobody can be this stupid and stubborn. Whether thickness or incompetence or ego, it's quite obviously very stupid management as you say.

Correct. Although I would have put his "success" in quotations. Correct again but every single time, McInnes FAILS to even try to win. This is key. As you said at the top, it's ego. EVERYONE, including the players know that Shinnie at LB is common sense. But give a weegie tink a bit of power particularly in the parochial NE where they KNOW they know more than us hick teuchters and then it all goes pear shaped. He's not a very clever man. He was sub-average at school and given the top job in the formerly affluent NE, he thinks he's fucking Erchie.

First off, he ain't going anywhere. He needs to be sacked. He's a fucking weegie. He's getting paid. Like Calderwood and Miller, they're delighted to take the money. As for who comes next, I don't give a fuck. That's the chairman's job. Just get rid of this useless cunt. Now.

But both defeats were totally down to managerial incompetence. We CALLED it before kick off when he picked the wrong teams.

These are our back 4 starters since the start of September: - Shinnie played only twice at LB is a disgrace. This today is the first combination of these four.

I would be interested to hear from a couple of posters who consider McGinn our best player? What do you make of him being benched v. Celtic and now Rangers? I can't understand it, playing Shinnie in midfield and not starting McGinn. I also don't understand this continual changing of our CB partnerships and having 3 of the 4 starting today (presumably Consi in LB again) and arguably our best CB this year on the bench. For the first time in how long? What message does this put out? Shambles.

Against a team there to be beat, who were beaten on Wednesday, who we beat ourselves last time, yet another shocking team selection from a hapless manager. He hasn't got a fucking clue and he lacks balls. This must be killing our players' collective psyche.

Who gives a fuck? The bottom line is the bottom line. Some cunts can't see it. Three types of people. Those who make things happen. Those who watch things happen. Those who go "what happened?"

I have no excuse for forgetting that today was today. It's my wife's birthday today. Which always coincides with St A day. I got reminded of this national day an hour ago. For the record, I never bought her fuck all. Like I did for 90 odd per cent of the last 30 birthdays she's had since I've known her. Our philosophy is very simple. If you want something, buy it. And if you can't afford it, save up for it but don't get others buying you shit you don't need or want. Tell a lie. I got off my arse to buy her a bottle of champagne. From Lidl. It won a blind tasting test! £19.99 though was at least six quid more than I thought I would have to pay but a lot cheaper than the last bottle we had. Scotland. I fucking love it. It's the best country in the world cos our people are the best.

Nae my cup o char but would fuck it, obviously. Would have walked three quarters the length of Union Street to give her the rocket but since yous love her so much, I would walk as far as Cove to Northfield.

I think you're missing the point. He can speak for himself but like you, like me, none of us are in charge. We are only paying customers. The board make the decisions in our best interests. It's just that you shouldn't trust everyone all of the time and we should always question, question, question. It's how we learn. It's how we grow. It's how we succeed. Critical thinking skills can be learned. It is dependent on a growth mindset (ref: Professor Carol Dweck, Stanford) rather than the fixed mindset possessed by most. As for the point about spending money to look at possibilities, to guarantee that we make the right decision, I can't remember most fans questioning the feasibility study. The infamous one. The one that Milne said would cost £600,000. And where did that lead? Exactly as a minority of us said it would, to fuck all. Money down the drain. More of our money, pissed away. When a man stands as personal guarantor for a club's debt and he knows that Pittodrie is worth more than the total debt then he can walk away with no risk. The act of getting us to such debt puts pressure on our only asset. It's not like he's developing players with decent price tags. When the banks see the debt getting closer to the value of Pittodrie, they are under pressure to foreclose. Milne has always known AFC will never go bust. There's too many interested parties in the NE. But he's played a blinder in getting what he wants and in the process, the customers have been screwed big time. Unless the fans consider the "product" under his stewratship for the last quarter of a century to have produced good football? And it is that long that he's been fucking with our club, even though he's been chairman for less. There was a power vacuum. Ian Donald was a plug. Milne saw this, assessed the opportunity and took advantage. As always happens all of the time. I blame the board and the fans for never standing up to him. This is why I say we got the club we deserved.

How can you say this unless you know how much would it cost to build it? Has the club looked at this question? If a supposed benefactor pisses away £10m of his money giving it to AFC to wipe out the debt, then anything can happen. You think it was a gift to the club? Like nothing in return? What about higher and steeper? We wouldn't need to build back onto the street. Given modern construction, we could do it on the exact same area space. The capacity is more than 20,000 now. We could have less seats in the Main but these are questions that have never been considered because the plan has ALWAYS been to relocate. Aye, ONE man's plan. He tried to get us to go to Kingswells TWENTY YEARS AGO. The paint was barely dry on the RDS, which HE built. You won't get to take part in the shares issue. Only the original shareholders will. It will be a rights issue, not a public sale and guess who will pick up the shortfall when we who got mugged over 20 years ago refuse to get mugged again?

It is NOT a fact that Pittodrie can't be modernised. There is an AGENDA here, one that exceeds 20 years. Whether some choose to ignore it or are so stupid not to see it or who trust everyone in perceived authority (where did that get the US and the UK on a MUCH bigger scale than a rat trying to make money out of a football club), this does not alter the facts and the fact is that a modern stadium CAN be built at Pittodrie. Before you can say with authority that it can not be built, you must have specific architectural knowledge. Even a child's imagination can see a street going through a new main stand but why the fuck would that even be required given the ample room the car park gives for diversion? Why does that side of Pittodrie street even need to be open? The ONLY change required at Pittodrie is the main stand. The other three do NOT offend any regulations. By the way, you know that a safe standing area can be created at Pittodrie? They're selling this feature hard but if they really wanted to give us what we need, section Y can be dedicated for the cost of what, a couple of grand at most? Our chairman is a builder. We only need to rip the seats out of one corner.

Facts. We were never in debt until Milne and the building of the RDS. He used that position to ingratiate himself to Baby Donald and get on to the board. Once he had worn down Donald, he got the chairman role. Under him, the debt escalated alarmingly and some might say, deliberately. It got to eight figures which left us no option but to sell out only asset, Pittodrie. The other Donald's came in with a huge cash injection to wipe the debt. So let's not go sucking each other's dicks about what a good job Milne has done.

That's strong. What "utterly" convinces you of this? From a financial budgeting view, we know they aim low - that's just prudent - but what have you seen to be so apologetic about our club and so supportive of the board the WHOLE time? You speak like you know more than us. Show evidence.

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I didn't just leave early, I never went. The last time I missed AFC lifting a trophy was 1970 and I had a good alibi, being 7 years old and living abroad at the time. I knew we would get humped. Brendan v. Derek for silverware? No contest. Especially given the gulf in class of the individuals they can afford and we can't, and the spinelessness within McInnes and too many of our team. The reason I drank water in the pub was that I was anticipating leaving early, after the second goal went in I was saying to my mates. That was the precise moment I departed, with the YES ringing in my ears from way too many Celtic supporters in a North East bar. In my day they would have got battered on principle. These days they can wear their hoops and give it large. It's not just the team who are soft. So are the fans. Just kidding. I never advocate violence against another human being. Unless they deserve it. Supporting another team isn't deserving it although I can't stand how safe they feel they are in our environment.