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On topic and back on track and ignoring the insulting rhetoric of someone who may or not be bored, this being one possible explanation for his arsehole behaviour, to the original poster I ask: - What rule has been breached? What are you going on about?

No you didn't answer my question directed to another. He answered it. When you stuck your oar in: - 1. you presumed to know my position and therefore that we would "probably have differing opinions" 2. on something that you then twisted to express in indisputable terms. 3. You expressed no desire to debate because 4. it would end up a certain way, you predicted. 5. You then said you didn't know anything about whether or not they had and 6. you didn't care "all that much". 7. The final proof of you spoiling for a confrontation was you saying that my point about Milne was irrelevant 8. and even gave the completely wrong reason for it not affecting us. So I think it has been YOUR prejudgements and your arsehole behaviour that prevents intelligent and reasoned dialogue between us, not mine. Once again.

What an arsey attitude! You cared enough to jump into a debate between two other people? Thank you for posting that but after 30 seconds examination, it is obvious that your point about my point about Milne was erroneous. It is indeed irrelevant for Milne and AFC but not because of the timing of the introduction of the rules but because of the amount of moneys involved being so large that it doesn't affect small clubs like ours. You missed the bigger point regarding the financial mismanagement of AFC for a period exceeding 20 years but maybe you don't care about that either? At least the hordes of darkness are showing ambition to invest in players, however they acquire their funds, unlike us who have NEVER shown any boardroom ambition to succeed on the pitch. Read the annual accounts if you're interested in AFC plc.

Some of the football this Xmas period in England has been stunning. That goal by Spurs was awesome, as was Everton's opener.

So what rule has been breached? It's not "unfair" to borrow money. Milne borrowed millions to put us in debt. Unlike Rangers, he didn't borrow to invest in the product.

Excuse my ignorance but what is FFP?

Beautiful and simple goal by Chelsea there. Fabregas superb to Costa + perfect cut back. More proof that they weren't playing for Mourinho, perhaps? Possibly because of his over-active ego being an ugly aspect to behold? Edit: proof in the stats: - Mourinho P 16, W 4, D 3, L 9 = 15 pts Since super ego P 4, W 2, D 2 = 8 pts

Don't take this the wrong way and miss the spirit intended although given human experience, it would be perfectly understandable if you did, for the precise reason that Einstein identified when the ego is involved, since expanded and articulated so brilliantly by Dr M Scott Peck in his multi million selling book. Even Scotland's Jim Kelman spoke of this point in his Booker-winning A Disaffection when he wrote "the I's are the worst". Actually, if you can't remember what opinion you had about a former manager "to be honest" and I can, then it is highly probable that your ego would be pricked by any genuine attempt to educate and help you so I won't bother.

If, as he correctly says, "finishing second with the budget we have compared to the rest should be a given for even a vaguely competent manager" and you agree with that, why did you and many on this webchatspeaksite defend Calderwood so vehemently? Has your philosophy and expectations changed, were you all being contrary for the sake of being contrary or do you not have the courage to have an opinion of your own and like the majority of people, you follow the herd?

Two stunning goals by Citeh late on at Watford. Unsavable.

One of those games we never forget. I even remembered the goal scorer.

What needs to end? What rule has been breached this time?

That's me teetotal for January, as we have done every January this century (bar a couple). I hate alcohol right now, having had only one AFD (alcohol-free day, on the 30th) for 2 or 3 weeks. By the middle of the month, I will feel so good I will swear I'll never drink again. Then by the end of the month, I'll be choking for a pint.

I would like to see Milne fuck off in 2016. Given I've been wanting this for almost 20 years, I'm not expecting much. Whilst this cancer remains, good health is not possible.

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Hmm... yet another skyscraper, in Dubai this time that caught fire and did NOT collapse to the ground. At all, let alone within an hour. Built of the same materials, concrete and steel, these things are designed not to fall down. And yet a number of them in the WTC complex did, as their structures strangely turned to dust.

Cameron's New Year address was excruciating in its insincerity. Corbyn's was excruciating in its naivety.

Given that Loirston is fifty miles above the level of the river Dee, yes, it's a stupid question. Like exceptionally stupid.

Another bullet dodged, not going to that shite. Fucking embarrassing "product", Mr Milne.

Appalling. Would be surprised if game doesn't get called off real soon. Grass can't hold this much water. It's been deluging for 16+ hours constantly and as for the wind, the biggest hoolie ever.

Yes they played 1979 and 1980, Novembers. Can't remember why I couldn't make it to the 1980 one.

Girl School was the support act. I didn't see them because I was in the bar where we met Lemmy. The reason I remember who the support act was was because I confronted Lemmy about them. "You said in Sounds that by the end of the tour you would have had every one of them Lemmy. How's that going?" When he said "nah, just the blonde", me and my mate knew he was bullshitting and we were half his age at the time.

Went to see Sunset Song at the Belmont Cinema. It was shite. Austere and pointless. That was despite the exceptional beauty of Agyness Deyn appearing in almost every scene.

RIP Lemmy. Saw them at Reading 79, my first festival. The Capitol gig on the Bomber Tour was incredible, the Ace of Spades being the best live song I've ever seen. He was a strange man but a wonderful performer. Bought me and my mate a drink - "whatever you're having Lemmy". Carlsberg Special Brew. May have not been as sexually active as one might expect given the "rock and roll lifestyle". Deeply insecure under it all and never married or had a long term relationship (to my knowledge) in the last half of his life at least.

The worst three managers in the EPL are in the relegation spots right now. French Fud Villa, Fat Sam and Brolly Steve. You can't imagine how these cunts even got a job.