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The disallowed goal was a disgrace but they all get disallowed these days. Agree Naismith should've seen red. Cunt that he is. But I swear McGinn definitely fouled inside the box and McKenna's was soft as fuck.

Got a bottle of Deutz for me the morn. Hoping not to share any of it. Only place I've found that stocks it is the big corner shop offie next to Slaters but they don't have the vintage Deutz which is the best I've ever tasted.

Ha. Forgot about that. I meant to say in the last 58 months.

Levein is correct. McGinn definitely conceded a stupid penalty through sheer clumsiness and McKenna's was soft as fuck. He made the most of a wee shove in the back. We got lucky with those two decisions. Hearts were hard done by.

Some champagne advice for Xmas. Asda have had Bollinger for £34 for a while which is as cheap as you'll get anywhere. It's not worth it. Last year I picked up two dozen bottles of Pierre D'Arcy for between £8 and £12 a bottle. I noticed it was down to £10 a bottle a couple of days ago from it's normal £17 so bought a couple to try again, as we do remember that it was more than acceptable. We did a taste test last night and I preferred the cheaper one so I was quite happy the wife and particularly the daughters hoovered into the Bollie last night. 5 bottles of that plus one of P D'A sitting empty in the kitchen today was testament to a good night but I'll be stocking up on the cheap stuff today. Didn't actually enjoy the Bollinger. Totally average if you ask me.

More lager advice. If like me your staple is Vitamin T, insist on the type of glass. The default they serve you with is known as a laser cut glass. See that T at the bottom of it, that's not decoration. It's there to keep your pint bubbling so it looks fresh and never looks flat. But the pace I hoover pints at, it's not in the glass long enough to get flat. This is why pints of Tennents these days get served looking like the flake is missing. The problem with these glasses is that the laser cut T is full of holes and they get clogged up with yeast. Tennents have been distributing special dish washer tablets to all their pubs to counter this and a boss at Tennents says that these glasses were the worst move the company has ever made. Ask for your pint in a normal glass. It tastes so much better without the artificial frothing. An old mannie taught me this last month and there's at least four of us now in my locals who insist on it.

100% agree. I can't imagine another option. My imagination literally can't anticipate anything other than this. But some managers like to do something other than the obvious, for various reasons. It's a small man syndrome at play. I've got the power, nobody else and I'll exercise it how I want. They also kid themselves that they have a unique tactical genius gift. It's stubbornness and stupidity mostly.

Never started a match thread before. First time for everything. And hopefully the first time McInnes can beat Celtic in a fixture that means something. Nothing can go on forever. Records are there to be broken. So let's fucking break it. Beautiful day anticipated. Always bump into loads of good folk I forgot existed at this time of year and the pub crawl I've got planned before and after takes in everything I need. Will have at least 50% and hopefully 75% of my kids with me at some point, depending if my eldest gets his arse in gear. Can't manage 100% as the youngest not legal to drink. Any win would be wonderful. 3 points will be lovely.

I said after his first game at Pittodrie that Lowe was a footballer. He will be badly missed. Thank you for your efforts Max. After Considine's interview last week, it would be insane for McInnes to re-employ the losing strategy of Consi at LB. If the player himself states the obvious, something we could all see for ourselves, a manager who continues such folly is either stubborn or stupid and possibly both.

Left just before HT after the worst red card in history and the worst ref performance I've ever seen. I know you said Beaton was bad but this clown was unreal. Home already. And yes, it didn't go well for me as I had Arbroath at evens on a number of doubles and trebles. Great to hear Aberdeen getting the points on the radio though.

If you don't like it, confront it. Address the poster directly. Quote his words that you disagree with. It's the only way. Honesty is always the best policy. It is kowardly to throw out generalist criticisms of others without specificity, especially when you are having a go at fellow Dons fans, the danger being tarring us all with the same brush. For the record, I don't believe the "Aberdeen and the NE is full of negative cunts" line. This is a myth, put about for reasons I fail to comprehend which may or may not include ignorance of negativity levels in the whole of the country.

Great post CtS. As a fan who apparently falls into the negativity category, let me provide clarity and clear up a misunderstanding. My frustration with AFC is not born from a pessimistic nature nor is it a natural propensity towards negativity. In fact, I gravitate towards the positive and explore the possibilities in everything, qualities that have served me well in life. I despise the Scottish psyche that dwells in negativity for the sake of a moan. Like you, I live in eternal hope (that we can win the league one day). Unlike you, I do not see these as good times. Therein lies our key fundamental difference. I don't trust Stewrat Milne and I don't rate Derek McInnes nor the majority of his many signings. I want us to be the best we can be. I always have, for a period of over 50 years. I support the club and put a lot of money into it. Any frustration I have - and it is plentiful - is not expressed towards the footballers and management at Pittodrie during performances as I always want us to win and I am well aware of the destructive power of discouragement, particularly in the modern era where the subjects are so much weaker. Every season, I start by wanting to win the league. You obviously don't start with that hope and that's fine. This is exactly why I started this thread. I don't have a clue what the club wants and I don't even understand supporting a cause, any cause, without wanting it to be the best it can be. I can't even remember what game it was in late September (when I really should have been back at school or nicking my daddy's cue and playing pool) which prompted the thread but it would've been another abjectly miserable performance and result. Finally, don't make the mistake of wrongly thinking that my use of the term happy clapper might apply to you. It was used in a bespoke manner, directed to one particular individual and in response to yet another personal attack. I love your hope and enthusiasm. I just wish you demanded more from AFC. Actually, my only demand is that the club runs honestly and strives to overachieve, a concept in sport excellently articulated by Doc Eliot of (then) Rice University Texas, grandson of TS. I'm convinced the club is being run dishonestly but I'm not going to walk away and let charlatans take my club away from me. I've been around a lot longer than Messrs Milne and McInnes. I hope we will still have a club left to support after the damage this chairman is doing, one key strategy being to reduce fan expectations.

A rare OUT for me. Got a better game to watch. Will be at Gay as a Goose field tomorrow watching a top of the table clash, which should only go one way, a home win expected. See yous at Pittodrie on Boxing Day and I'll stab yer fucking eyes oot with knitting needles, if I mind to take them with me. You fucking reprobate cunts.

If the ambition is to win stuff, why would we consider selling our best players? It's not like any of them are world beaters anyway.

I'll give you fish. I'll give you candy. Enjoy.

That was absolutely phenomenal. Dat boy has a huge talent. He connects people. Wonderful.

You, like that other cunt, are so obsessed with trying to catch me out, you aren't reading straight. I know it's frustrating being you but that's really not my fault. Now quote the OP and elsewhere and show me where I've contradicted myself? You on the other hand are so ignorant about football and so happy clapper after a 90+ minute winner against Livi and beating the worst two teams in the SPFL that you said, specifically, on this thread, that Aberdeen can win the league this year. Fucking gluepot.

I'm not being paranoid. I'm being sickened by your weakness, your unwillingness to confront the posters making points you disagree with turning my stomach. I wrote off the whole season from a WINNING THE LEAGUE point of view. Once again, I reiterate that this thread is about aspirations. Once again, I ask, what are yours?

Agree that Shinnie at LB is where he should be. Agree that his commitment is his best quality, an excellent example for others. Unfortunately his limitations in the middle of the park are being horribly exposed, particularly against teams who have managed to get more than 9 points from a possible 54 which has led to his frustrations dragging down the effectiveness of his performances. GMS has great feet but a weak heart. We can't rely on him for the consistency of performance that every winning team needs. It's almost tragic that he's seen as one of our best players and when it comes to creating anything and scoring goals, he is undoubtedly one of our best players, so fucking shite have the AFC attacking unit performed this year. Scrape a win at St Mirren and thrash Dundee and the happy clappers forget the embarrassment v. St Johnstone 12 days ago and the fact we couldn't make any chances better than a near OG at Hampden.

You appear not to have the balls to confront directly. For the record, September wasn't even over when I said we had blown the league and I stand by that. We're not a good enough squad and our manager isn't good enough... to win the league. Plus we hadn't got off to the flying start we needed to have to create our first opportunity in over 30 years to win the league. What's so comical? This thread is about aspirations. I questioned what the club actually wants to achieve. What do you as an individual fan hope for? Does coming 2nd again give you warm fuzzies? What's knee jerk? Were we wrong to think this would not be our first title for a third of a century?

Trump's decision to withdraw troops from Syria is as welcome as it is unfathomable. Is he no longer a puppet of Aipac? No. Has Bashar been defeated? No. It is madness for the west to be in the Middle East but do they think we are so stupid that we will just forget all the lies they told us? I was in the House of Commons for the "let's drop bombs on Syria" debate. It was our first and only visit there and we thought it great timing when we arrived and saw the agenda. We only lasted half an hour. It was surprisingly poorly attended by our elected representatives and the quality of the various speeches was unbelievably bad. Worst of all was The Times the next morning - available at the hotel, I wouldn't buy the fucking rag - which totally misrepresented direct quotes from the house. Something big is happening behind the scenes. We have the right to know what. When they spend billions of our money on agendas that were clearly lies, we need to know where our money went and if it was spent properly. It's impossible to cover lies with more lies but why the sudden change in policy?

Well done them. Some forward thinking in Scottish football for a change, unsurprisingly coming from outwith Scotland. There is more than one handicap to overcome of course. The old feudalism rivalry shit between the two clubs should be easily surmountable given that they are both spent forces and with almost impossible routes back to anywhere near the top, where both their histories have been in the past. The bigger obstacle is Dundonians themselves. There is much shit in this country and boy do we pay for our good stuff, the laws of yin and yang not being dispensable with, but Dundee has a LOT of shit within. I actually like the city and thinks it's had a raw deal over the decades. The people are roch as fuck but I have got to know their city over the last 20+ years and I like it, both the folk and the progressive moves that they've been making at local government level. What I wonder about however is the remnants of their obstinacy and whether they are capable of learning from it. Over 30 years ago, Ford Motor Company proposed their new European assembly plant for Dundee and the deal was as good as done (including at Thatcher's central government level), bringing thousands of jobs to the city. What killed it were the unions insisting on a more-than-one union representation so Ford went fuck you and went to Belgium and Saarbrucken instead.

Yes it is, to match our "achievements" of the last four years. As you said in the other thread, there has been some "astonishing" turnarounds in this league this season, and the fact that Aberdeen even have a chance of second is pretty astonishing to me, given how appalling we started and how weak the Old Firm have been, Celtic getting only 69% (just less) of points available and Sevco less than 67%. Our 61.1% points won is pretty much in line of what we normally get I would reckon but when we talk about "aspirations", i ALWAYS aspire to be the best that I can be or that we can be and in terms of AFC, our top target MUST be, ALWAYS, to win the league. I'm not convinced that this is even the goal at our club, certainly not in the boardroom and not within McInnes's journeyman head neither.

Great summary TC. Spot On. Kilmarnock have indeed been a surprise start and as you say, their squad nowhere near good enough (for depth) but all credit to Clarke for getting some great performances out of Burke, Brophy, Greg Stewart et al. Once Celtic find their gear, and them qualifying for the next stage of the Europa League helped us all, then they will pull away. It was the fact that they got duffed up on Thursday and all the emotional rollercoaster that went with it that explains their flat, untypical performance on Sunday although all credit to Hibs as Lennon had them fired up and they were slick and sharp, helped by a dream start of course and some superb feet by Slivka.

Anyone who thinks this squad under McInnes is good enough to win the SPFL in May knows football not. Beating two teams who haven't been good enough to earn 10 points in this first half of the season and you think it's possible? Were you not at the St Johnstone game 10 days ago? Have you not been watching all year? Gluepot.