rocket_scientist

I have always known this. It's just ugly watching the fools getting parted with their money and them being so stubborn and desperate to pretend that they can think properly that they won't listen to good counsel.

You need to get a job mini.

We already agree that the bookies use ratings and algorithms to set prices. What you claimed was that pro punters had their own ratings and algorithms.

Before you go, explain - in English - what you meant by my claiming a bet has no value and where you and I differed?

Shots on target against last week's opposition correlates to the probability of winning this week against different opposition and the determination of the value of this week's odds? Don't you see how stupid this sounds? They're lining you up to sell you an expensive piece of software that doesn't work. In a game (football) you don't punt in. There's one born every minute. Don't you be the one. Love & Peace.

I've not misunderstood you. You've not said anything coherent to understand or misunderstand. Going after 16/1 shots is not how serious punters beat the bookies. But you say that you're so good at it that you're not allowed to play anymore as you have had four accounts restricted. How can cashing out a bet for profit that would've gone on to lose be an unwise decision? How can you make more money by not cashing out? Take my example from Sunday; a treble on bet365, 2 games leading by one goal with 6 & 7 minutes to go, one game 0-0 after 37 minutes. How can that be laid off on betfair "to make more money"?

Also, you fail to understand what I said, which was delivered in plain English by the way. My average pick price has been 1.49 this season after 13 picks, which as a pro punter you will recognise as the equivalent of 1/2. This included Norwich on Saturday at 10/11 and Celtic on Sunday at 2/9. Only an imbecile would even consider the possibility of an imbecile deliberately targeting a 1/2 price.

Prove that you're not bullshitting. Give us the numbers on your Anderson bets. You're saying there are pro punters doing things you don't do and yet you say you're a pro punter? How can an algorithm determine the value of outcome probability?

Every professional punter has their own "system", as do many amateur enthusiasts. They don't have their own algorithms and ratings though, the former because if you knew what it was, it's used in the industry for price setting in-play (not risk and value assessments by the punter) and the latter because ratings systems are freely available. You fail to understand that by not cashing out, you lose the stake. We've already established that you don't know how betting exchanges work. You failed to provide a single example of when you laid off an existing bet to make profit. Edit: before answering Rico's excellent question, take some sagely advice. Stop and think. And don't keep digging when you're in over your head already.

It's impossible to reason with people who don't know what they're talking about. You make yourself look more foolish with your last four words. My only cash out this season was Celtic on Sunday in the 37th minute for 2.243 times the stake. That would have been a lost stake on a losing bet otherwise, rather than more than doubling our money. I used the cash out option sparingly last season but again it worked in my favour and by maintaining a spreadsheet to measure it, was able not to cash out too early on bets I considered were in danger. You can dismiss the cash out option all you want but until you produce one reasonable argument against this additional punter option, you continue to kid yourself that someone told you something so it must be true.

Get yersel te fuck min. We welcome debate in the North East. We don't tolerate tooters. If you had a relative who was NE and over the age of 50, he or she could explain to your ignorant stupid mind what a tooter is. Nobody in the history of betting hits as much as 20% profit on stake over a sustained period. It's impossible when the book is stacked against and EVERY book is stacked against. And you did say what you earned. Twice p.a. you said since November.

So you've been caught lying. Again. And it's my fault for calling you out? Fuck off ye fraud. This is Aberdeen.

I know that you have to spend a grand a day minimum seven days a week to earn as much as you say you do. You don't have the balls, the intellect nor the resources to be that big a player.

And as a professional punter yourself earning more than £1,000 a week of clear profit, what system do you employ to be as lucky as you claim to be?

What is it? Can you describe what it is?

Bloom was educated, something you weren't. Bloom is married (to a psychologist) and has a daughter, two things you are unlikely to ever have. Do you know what an algorithm is?

You sir, are a fucking liar. You always "know guys" who do this or do that - you NEVER put forward any wisdom of your own - and then you put forward a bunch of shit that you don't have the intellect to understand and you excuse yourself by stating that you're "still learning". Newsflash buddy; we are ALL still learning, well those of us with a growth mindset (ref: Professor Carol Dweck, Stanford University) and the capacity to learn. You don't even know what an algorithm is, far less understand why your "mates" do NOT spend money buying them because if they did, they would be as intellectually retarded as you.

Somebody half my age and less than 15/20% experience in this field is telling me about how the industry works? How does that work? Nobody is stupid enough to pay the bookies for their price-setting algorithms. It's too obvious to pay money for. Plus, they make BIG mistakes ALL the time, Alaves and Melilla on Sunday 11 a.m. kick offs being classic examples. If that's true - and I am certain that it's not - then you must be a very lucky guy.

Consistency is a great quality, one of the most desirable in my field. You said you saw the final episode. Now you're saying you saw the trailer for it? More important in your mind was declaring that you had visited Canada recently. You have much to learn. I'm beginning to doubt that you have the mental capacity to learn anything.

You misrepresent the record. I did not, and do not, think that my "opinion is the only one that matters". In fact, presenting to 100+ specialists in another country next week, one of the themes I will be putting forward is the requirement to recognise the distinction between facts and opinions. I LOVE differing opinions. It's how we ALL learn. This is another statement I will be saying to encourage audience participation, debates and other points of view being absolutely necessary for us ALL to learn and grow. It's a fact that many are incapable of growing because they lack the intellect and/or critical thinking skills. This is acutely and painfully witnessed in written communication skills. Then there is pride, something that Marcellus Wallace warned us about. You are not capable of "going into it much more" not because it's "not fair" but because it doesn't exist. There has NEVER been an algorithm (let alone more than one) built that can help with predicting the outcomes of football matches. This is bullshit, it is a line being spun to an impressionable gullible fool who does not know anything about anything. If you were an honest man, you would look at how much you are winning or losing over the year and relate this back to what you might have been earning had you got yourself a minimum wage job and had a reasonable work ethic to go with it. I did a paper 4 years ago called "The Mirror and The Great Pretenders", the title of it being borrowed from the great song by the Platters almost 65 years ago and referenced within my text. Like the 18 year old barmaid in my local tonight and the 34 year old punter wearing a shite Stone Island, you don't listen enough. As the Zen story goes, you are so full of your own opinions and speculations, you need to first empty your cup before you can take anything in.

I am amazed that you have decided, as a professional punter, that Horses, Arras and NFL is more predictable than fitba. That makes zero sense to me. In fact, with only three outcomes, this will be why football is THE most favoured book to bet on by the professional punters I've ever met. Someone you trust? You mean there is somebody out there with a unique gift for predicting football games? Is his win record better than 90% for an average pick price of 1/2? Does he tell you about the ones he loses? Have you run your own book on his recommendations and found him to be a profitable source of tips? What sort of price? Does he know about odds on aways? Do you know about odds on aways?

That can't be measured, obviously, but nor do they affect the question of whether the cash out option is a help or hindrance to the punter.

Some folk forget what they tooted about earlier. The lesson they need to learn is stick to the truth. The truth will never bite you on the arse.

Online casinos and games - like the roulette machines in high street bookies - are ONLY for the feeble minded. You NEVER see a SUCCESSFUL professional punter using them. For reasons too obvious to articulate.

I didn't say that you were a loser. Read more carefully. How could I possibly know one way or the other? When you said "you're still learning", that was an alarm bell. There is NOTHING to learn once you know the game.