maverick sheep

He's been disappointing since coming back from his injury, which is also about the length of time Aluko spent phoning it in before leaving. Not wanting to be here probably has more to do with it than ability. In a way though, I think this is all related to the point about there being hee haw coaching in place at Aberdeen. Young players develop up to a point but then there's no one capable of helping them get to the next level. Not surprised at that age people want to go somewhere they can better themselves. Even a few League 1 teams have better coaches/facilities than we do.

Arabs and Hearts with Webster. Us with McNamee last year and Patterson the year before. Anderson is a Dons legend. That's the first time I've ever heard anyone say otherwise.

Chelsea fans booed during the Hilsborough silence and then called for Paolo Di Canio to be the next manager...vermin

a few of us were saying yesterday that it's not about the management so much as the (lack of) coaching and training facilities. We need people involved who can get the players fitter than the other teams and get the hang of the basic skills that are so glaringly lacking. There's no point in changing manager if the next guy hasn't got the budget for a coaching staff either. Instead of the hundreds of thousands we've been paying out in compo, we should be putting that money into giving the club a structure that's fit for purpose (as well as players).

I suppose whether it convinced me to stop going to games would depend on whether the independent report seemed to be comprehensive, or a white-wash. If they end up getting away with a cva and don't get proved to have done what we're all fairly sure they have, then I'd probably still go, but I'm really not sure why. I'd certainly be even more disillusioned with the game than I am already. In terms of getting AFC to speak out for the fans, this might be the perfect time to demand it. If the board fob us off after yet another season of failure then we'll know once and for all what their true colours are.

haha cunts

no one got pass marks. middle of the park we were completely absent. arnie can fuck right off if he thinks he's better than us without being able to pass to anyone. reynolds and fyvie were straight down the tunnel when the whistle went. i hope neither wear a dons top ever again. cunts.

they're not really referring to competitiveness within the SPL, they're referring the two team league within the SPL. They're complaining that the punishment would condemn them to finishing 2nd for a couple of years in a row. This is just another demonstration of mind-numbing ignorance, and arrogance. They're not all THAT dumb, they just think/know they're untouchable, and so are outraged that anyone would suggest otherwise. Basically they're cunts.

already been at least 1 fatality at aintree this year. i'm running out of sports to turn my fucking back on!!

it used to be gay, but now it's (potentially) ok

Agree with this and what most others have said. Wouldn't even as few as 1,000 extra drop in ave attendence be something like £350,000 loss to the club? The financial arguments for needing the huns just don't stack up. The only thing making me swither is that i'd miss the day out, I wouldn't miss the football and i wouldn't feel guilty for not putting money into the milne/spl boys club anymore.

where's the 'kill everyone and then turn the gun on yourself' option?

As I said in the other thread, this is potentially the last straw for me. But it's a rock and a hard place. Celtic and Rangers are perfectly happy for all other clubs to have zero fans, and for Scottish football to be a laughing stock, because they (rightly or wrongly) think they transcend that. They think they have some international kudos, so it doesn't matter if the fans of other clubs are driven out of the game. We all know if it pleases the Old Firm, it pleases the SPL/SFA. They've marketed Scottish football as if only two teams meaningfully exist for years now, so they won't find it difficult to market it should that become more of a reality. And then on the other hand, if other teams' fans AREN'T driven out of the game by injustice upon injustice, then it just means more money in their pockets. The similarity between professional sport and politics is sickening for so many reasons. As punters, just like as citizens, we are completely helpless unless we finally organise ourselves to make our voices heard. Are the various clubs' supporters groups having any dialogue about all this?

I'm just shocked that people listen to phone-ins. Specially in Scotland! Also, my dad played football against Chick in their uni days. says he was a daft wee shite who was the only one on the pitch who didn't realise he had no footballing ability at all. baldy fuck

Jack has to be RB because on that size of pitch McArdle there would be asking for trouble. possibly mcardle CB instead of reynolds. fyvie midfield, central with kari, with hughes left and megginson right.

and followed by a fascist salute

"We like Aberdeen"

Steve Evans left Crawley for Rotherham, meaning first-team coach Craig Brewster is caretaker manager. Started off with a 2-1 win today. That'll be him adding his name to the list of Broon's successor behind Paul Hartley then?

Whaaaaaa? Where's he working? On that note, not only would football be better if it was only semi-pro, the players not earning a billion ££s a week would be better off too as they'd learn a real trade for the last two thirds of their working lives.

They could at least call for a full independent investigation based on the fact the claims are coming from people who should know. The issue's bigger than the gers' massive tax cheating and probable criminality though. What's followed from the beginning of admin has now shown up the SFA and SPL as bodies that have no interest in anything other than securing the particular commercial arrangement that suits them as individuals, not their members over all. Doncaster has not been asked to answer why he lied about the 4 old firms being a part of the sky contract. Why not? He must have had a reason to. Shouldn't afc et al be representing their own fans and raising issues like that? And it's not just Doncaster. The clubs themselves surely knew the details of the contracts, and so knew it was a lie all along, but never called him out. Does anyone feel AFC are actually representing the fans on this? The reaction to skelp’s suggestion at the roadshow suggests they have no empathy for people who would walk away because of all this. And the other thing that has come out of all this is that the clubs really don't care about restructuring the scottish game to avoid it limping towards death either. These people in charge will retire or move to jobs in other industries in not too many years, unaffected by the consequences of their ultra short-termism. The game in scotland won't be so lucky. I can't even bring myself to imagine what this league will be like 20 years from now if not totally overhauled. And if this isn't to be the catalyst for that overhaul then I don't see it ever happening. Dundee, Airdrie etc should certainly have been punished, but the difference is they gained little in comparison. Rangers’ cheating created a system where they are part of a duopoly of power, so the difference is that if the SPL SFA and ‘rebel 10’ let them/new co away with it, they will walk back into this same position of privilege, and the other clubs will have willingly accepted to be losers for another 20 years. I personally feel as though AFC are so far complicit in the biggest cover up/scandal in the history of Scottish football. The old adage of if you say something often enough then people come to think it's true, certainly applies as far as 'needing' the huns goes. The authorities aren't even considering whether this is genuinely true, but they tell us to believe it. And it seems neither are the clubs unless the 'rebel 10' show a bit of backbone. We cannot have a chairman of the club who's essentially doing the bidding of rangers and celtic, or at least acquiescing with whatever course of action they choose to take. Then aside from all of that, there’s still the stadium issue. They dismissed the fans’ choice of location with little or no genuine feasibility study, in favour of a relocation that will mean AFC exist in name only, but that Aberdeen no longer has a professional football team. As far as I see it, the ball's burst, there's still just about enough air in it to have a kick about for the time being, but if no one's going to make the necessary repairs then the outcome is inevitable, and I don't think I can't bear to watch it.

I'd probably still go to pittodrie but i'd certainly never go to ibrox again. Probably won't do anyway. If they do get away with it then I wouldn't go to hampden again to line sfa pockets. If the clubs consciously choose to maintain this duopoly however then that really might be it for me. Sport is about competition. It's not about voluntarily handicapping yourself for the benefit of your rivals. To expect me to keep paying hundreds of pounds every year to essentially have my support betrayed is ludicrous. If afc have no intention of conducting themselves like an equal member, let alone genuinely attempting to build to be the best team in the country, then it's afc in name only, not in spirit because all it then is is a group of arrogant suits using the club to boost their status and portfolio.

fair play to you. i don't have the balls to get up on stage

did you die on stage fj? and then have sex with yourself?

Chalali, or fallon or big josh