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Being? That Mark McGhee is a theatre producer? I can only apologies for construing to misunderstand your jumbled "point". As far as I can see I'm the only one, of the two of us, trying to debate anything and YOU are the one ignoring another's CLEAR points before attempting to "provoke personal clashes" with your shite insults.

Again, another trademark Rocket trait. Failure to read the thread in full not just once, but also after being prompted to do so, before declaring oneself intellectually superior. Just to help you out; As for debating the problems that is what the "stupid" were doing on here around the time those on your favoured "webchatspeaksite" were being equally vociferous and adamant that the problems lay at Calderwood's feet. Granted you yourself have been very outspoken about Milne and Miller's tenureship of our club, but your debates regarding this pair share the same failings as the rest of your debates, they descend so quickly to the cheap personal insults, that your valid points are lost or ignored. Enough alternative vocabulary in there, for you?

All this ^^ does is highlight the ineffectualness, of your metaphor. As usual you are the only person able to decipher your rambling nonsense. And what the fuck is a coffee morning and what is it's mentality?? I agree, if you care to read the thread in full, that to blame McGhee for the altogether mess is folly, but by the same token blaming JC for it last season was equally folly. Only problem now is that same mess is seven hundred odd thousand pounds bigger.

This isn't the EPL it's the SPL where are the funds coming from to pay for two potential first choice players for each position. He'd be as well moaning in the press that he hasn't got the funds to sign Ronaldo and Messi.

As Padre says a poor analogy made even poorer because half of it is crap. If I can attempt to follow you; So McGhee is "like" a producer, OK. So, on to the cast (I'm guessing the players), four of the members are his, Ifil, Fyvie (we all know Jimmy would never have played him ), Patterson and MacLean. The last two were put in without so much as a "rehearsal". Not sure what you're on about with the costume? I'm going to guess design the set is the formation, well that's McGhee's, unless we're suggesting Jimmy came in the dressing room before hand and told the players to play differently? The script?, well, McGhee has had 7 months now to adapt the script to his liking and get the cast to learn it. Surely not too much to ask from an average fitba manager let alone the messiah.

Still, got to be preferable to Kerr MacDonald-Murray.

Your forgetting to take into account the management, Dave. The praise for the performance can't solely be placed at Maguire's feet. ;D

I fucking LOVE the revisionism from posters in that thread!

How long is McGhee's contract, 2 years? It has to be left to run, not only because he is the incumbent and getting rid would mean throwing good money after bad, but because he has to be given a chance to sort HIS mess out. We're not going to be relegated and as was said countless times, before and after Calderwood's departure, it's a waste of money for a club so heavily in debt to throw money away sacking and hiring managers who have time on their contract to run, unless there is a significant risk of relegation. Yes I would like to see us win a cup but we are a middle of the road SPL club not significantly better or worse than most of our opposition when you add in to the mix teams of a lower standard going on a "cup run" the chances of winning a cup are average to minimal at best. Again, I've said it before the Hibs model is the one to follow, and I still believe that is what the board were trying to achieve in offering Jimmy the 3 year deal i.e. get some compo for when a Championship club came in for him following the Euro run. Maybe if we can get some cash money for some of our youngsters we can start to clear our debt because that is the only way we will ever get back to a level where we are able to compete, again. Maybe the board have seen in McGhee the ability to bring on the youngsters but not to spend on new players (another point I've raised on several occasion is McGhee poor track record with HIS signings). Then again Calderwood wasn't ever really allowed to spend either (when you look at the figures, according to soccerbase, Jimmy had a net transfer spend of -£555000). Regardless of the rights or wrongs of Jimmy's departure, Mcghee has to be given the length of his contract. If by June 2011 we have had another two season without a cup win and two successive bottom 6 finishes,but we have 2 or 3, 19 to 23 year olds with a couple of season left to run on their contracts who are generating interest of around £2-4 millon each. I'd guage McGhee's tenure to have been a success. As "we" on here argued at the time of Calderwood's departure there is no short term fix, it is will be a long drawn out process repairing the damage Milne's Chairmanship of the club has done. I say don't become a reactionary and lose sight of that now, but at the same time everyone has the right to criticize where it's due and we'll keep on with the "told you so(s)" they are the least we deserve. After-all we certainly don't have the team we deserve .

OOOOOHHHHHHHH!

I'm going to hazard a guess at Stephen Dobbie.

£500000!! Quick get that cheque cashed before they realise their mistake!

Not on the telly but I have watched 2.5 season of the The Wire in the last week. No idea if it's been mentioned before in the previous 25 pages of this thread, but it's good stuff!

https://www.universal-gifts.com/shop/cengine/shop/home2.html?vlsrc=gaw&gclid=CJXs7uvAwJ8CFVBd4wodlRH3zQ ???

I heard Robinho was looking for a way out of City.

Not sure we'd want him he seems awfully taken with Levein Then again he does show some sense in warning him away from Dundee.

I've gone for Mackie and Wright, on the basis that two negatives make a positive.

This story is hardly something we're new to as Aberdeen supporters. Could we not have had both Jason Scotland and Ferrie Bodde for £50k each? Which the board would not sanction. Add to that the sub £100 p/w that we allegedly lost Mickey Hart for! I suppose there has to be limits; which have to be stuck too. Otherwise, god forbid, we'd end up several million in debt . However, how frustrating is it when the board seem to sanction money to be spent at the wrong time on the wrong players, time and time again?

True. Also after reading K9's rant on the fee's paid out for players by Calderwood the other day, I did start to wonder what Calderwood's Net transfer spend was? It did cross my mind that this may be negative, but I'm willing to be proved wrong? Anyone anal enough and bothered enough to work it out?

Where has this additional £25k come from on top of his £75k transfer fee? It's not the first time I've seen £100k mentioned in respect of this transfer in the last month. I was even sad enough to type Tommy Wright into the search bar and everything I found from the time mentioned £75k as being the transfer fee. Still at £75k it's £100k more than should have ever been spent on him.

You have to admit that he, kind of, has a point. How people like Megson, and Hart in the last couple of season managed to get gigs in the EPL, is beyond me. Peter Taylor, Kevin Blackwell, Allan Pardew, Colin Calderwood... ?

To be honest I'd be inclined to agree with Slim. You only have to take a second; look at the Haudigan and realise the nonsensical approach to planning, two lanes and round-abouts brings to Aberdeen. While I understand your point about Edinburgh you have to understand the village mentality coupled with the type of industry that exists around Aberdeen. A lot of heavy industrial traffic bypasses Edinburgh via Perth through Glasgow and onwards to Englandshire. I'd bet most of Edinburgh's commuter traffic is office based and used to city driving and infrastructure supported alternative transportation methods. I would also bet there are very few Massey Ferguson's chugging along with a Marshall trailer coupled? Aberdeen and the Shire's major downfall, is that it has this ingrained superiority complex. Over the last thirty years or so we have had an enormous opportunity to become one of the worlds most important cities and we've fucked it up with the village mentality. If, and I'm sure he is correct, as Slim says the WPR is to be built in such a way it, will sum up how un-forward thinking we (Scotland) have become as a nation. This is a sad indictment of probably the most gifted nation in the World in terms of intelligence, and worse considering the resources that we have on our door-step.

K9 listing off players who had less than 5 minutes game time for the U12's, as a reason why McGhee's squad is significantly worse than Calderwood's? I think there is a little bit of panic creeping in, given the - what appear to be - inflated transfer fees listed, too (according to my memory).