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In the great oscillations that this roller coaster season brings is it not time for us to hit form again for 2 games ? Hopefully Hearts will do what they did at Tynecastle and come out at us with absolutely nothing up front and allow us to wipe the floor with them...again. If they sit back and soak us up then hit us on the break then expect another dire 1 goal defeat.

Not sure he can drop these guys. We have such a tight squad and with injuries there a very few options to replace them with. I like this talk but people have to realise that its going to be a long and painful process for McGhee to uncover these heroes who are going to come in and play for him. He didn't do too badly with it at Motherwell so I'm remaining patient but I fear he won't get the time he needs from the fanbase.

Maybe they can swap stories about utterly ludicrous hair dos and then trumps wallet will just fall open in a big love fest. FFS.

Excellent post Tom. Unfortunately thoroughly depressing. I may have to officially give up.

I was just coming in here to post exactly that. It was an absolute carbon copy, the ball pretty much took the same route to his foot and then ping. Although, much easier to do it against hibs of course

I'm not sure if there is a wrong or right in this, only opinions, of which we are all entitle to. If you find my criticisms are unfair and inaccurate then possibly they aren't being aimed at you. I guess everyone is feeling pretty fragile and angry just now and I will join you in making this my last words

Is our game in hand against them So much for Brazil 1970 splitting the OF.

I don't think that has been suggested. We're having a discussion about it are we not ? I'm expressing my opinion along with many others, often they differ, but that's the nature of it. I hope I am not coming across as dictatorial as its not my intention to stop anyone from having their say, unless of course they are wrong, then they need to shut the fuck up

It may have started that way but its now pretty consistently used to say 'don't you look stupid' to anyone who agreed that we needed a change of management. As I said, with hindsight its easy to say that was the wrong decision and to be triumphant about it, in humour or not just isn't helpful.

Thing is, I suspect their are several players at all clubs who are not interested in the club or the manager of any football club. It spart of the modern game and the managers who can crack it are not going to be managing Aberdeen FC. These players he is referring to were not performing week in week out last season either.

Excellent post GS Hindsight is a wonderful thing and for those who are now screaming that we should never have got rid of Calderwood its cleary a joyous time. I'm struggling to remember much clambering to carry on down the road we were on last season among the support back in the spring of last year. Yes we made Europe amidst poor opposition and we achieved a credible league finish but the football was awful almost all season and 90% of the fan base was not enjoying it. When I refer to 'treading water' that's what it felt like, another season of sub-standard football, poor cup runs and moderate top 6 finishes with a possible european place was not my idea of an exciting season. Would I take that this season ? Yes I probably would but thats the great thing about informing the decisions you should have made with future actions. Its hard to deny that performances and results have taken a step down and its hugely frustrating to face up to that fact but somewhere in this shitstorm there has to be some sort of belief that a better picture might emerge otherwise we might as well all just pack it in. What really pisses me off about some of the opinions in this thread is that so many people on here historically presented themselves as rational thinkers with a longer, more sensible viewpoint. Yet the prevailing noise on the site since about 10 games into the season has been one of total intolerence and short term knee jerk reaction towards the change of management. Acidic commentary about 'transitional phases' and barb humour about 'Jimmys dross' merely appears representative of the fact that you have no patience or support for anything McGhee might be trying to do. Before I get pelters for suggesting that we should just tolerate the shit we are being presented with let me make it perfectly clear that I am not happy with what is going on at the club. However, what I am willing to do is give the current manager more time to try and change things. It might have been a huge error to put him in place but we did and the least we can do is let him try to sort it out.

I also believe it was the right decision. There is no denying he lifted the club out of the shit and brought back credibility in many ways. However, we were treading water with him in charge, nothing more. We needed a change if we had any designs on a better future. Its undeniable that McGhee has not delivered. We are slightly worse off now than we were but that doesn't mean we would be anywhere else with Calderwood in charge. The environment changed when Calderwood went, our financial position downshifted significantly so its not an apples with apples comparison. I'm angry and frustrated just like everyone else but this constant need to apportion blame or point the finger at what should have been done is just getting boring as shit. We are where we are and no end of knee jerk, pissing and moaning will change that. Support the team, don't support the team. I couldn't give less of a fuck.

Very much so and therein we find the debate. I'd have to ask though, this retrospective analysis of how things might have been had we not taken this route....where exactly does it take us?

I'll give you that. We would certainly still have the money we paid in compensation.

I'm not converted. Easy to say we would be better off without the change. I don't believe we would have been.

Surprise dMcLean didn't get booked for taking his shirt off. The enture team left the park to celebrate as well. Was funny how they huddled around him and got his shirt back on him as if the ref wouldn't notice. Thought McDonald got into some great positions, its a pity he can't put the ball in the net as he would make a half decent striker

If it gives Celtic a false sense of security and lifts the pressure off the team ahead of a couple of big games then I'm OK with it being made public. Getting up the scum's collective noses is an added bonus

Ouch. Would have no worries about Kerr and McDonald but Mulgrew and Diamond are the two players who almost always perform against Celtic. We really would be playing an experimental side if we moved all these guys off the team sheet at once. Looks like a Young-Duff combo in the centre of the park, look out Scott Brown!

He showed signs of this early on at Starks park before the mud and the heroic closing down of Raith took it stoll (about 15 minutes in!). I thought he made some very good runs and did some intelligent things with the ball in the first quarter. He might struggle with teams who shut him down and allow him no space (as the whole team do!) but there is something there to hope for.

I think this might well be the best outcome for us in some ways. Celtic are likely to take us even more for granted than they might have done already. We have a history of doing reasonably well against stronger sides with a 'speculative 11'. Will depend on who he rests and more importantly who he brings in. With Celtic coming at us but not quite sure who each other are and how they play as a team and us having some young, aggressive players on the park that might test Celtics rearguard we might just have a chance. Oh and big Zander weighing in with a Goliathesque performance and Mulgrew pinging in free kicks! Makes me fucking ill how the OF are so utterly focused on each other that they think everything that goes on with any other club is either for or against them. Referees are all either 'masons' or 'papes', every club in the league is either a hun team or a green team, often both depending on who they are playing. You'd think these pricks were the the fucking axis the earth turns on :hammer:

Radio said that Kerr backed into Miller and stood on his foot and Miller had a wee kick out at him. Think it was Miller who was booked, possibly for his reaction.

Was just editing my post!

Happy with that, especially with JC coming up against Timothy and UTD getting the huns. Any result in those two games is a result for us. Dundee will be a known proposition for us now, we are less likely to take them for granted. Always better to face lower league opposition. When is this game played ? EDIT: Assuming we beat Raith! Remember seeing the Falkirk draw for last years semi and plotting that trip before Dunfermline decided to fuck that one up.

I only heard this song AFTER the final whistle. That said, McGhee has to support his players publicly, they are going to be down after recent results and while he had better be hammering them privately then he should support them in public.

I think Foster is correct. Zander and Mulgrew with Foster and Paterson doesn't look like a bad defence to me. Mulgrew has been very good at CB and ZD is, well he is ZD. FBs are both competent footballers. What's the issue here ? Are we suddenly playing Barcelona ? Its fucking Hibs, lets not turn them into gods just because they can beat Montrose and Hamilton by 4 goals. Fair enough, they are having a good season but we have enough to cope, no question. We managed with 9 men for some distance.