Ajja

I don't think we should get too carried away with this one. Bottom line is that an offside (or lack of) decision was made incorrectly. It's a common element of the game and we will benefit from them as often as we suffer (for the record I think the huns goal was NOT offside earlier in the season. yet was given that way). Mulgrew's handling of the ball was exactly what it was and he was punished in exactly the way he had to be. I'm not happy about the outcome and Mike McCurry is indeed everything you all say he is. However, let's not pretend that Aberdeen lost that game because of refereeing incompetence. We lost that game because depsite being given huge amounts of posession by a Hibs team that sat back and invited us to attack, we were unable to do so with any level of competence. The smoke and mirrors of offsides and hand balls don't hide those facts, however much we want them to.

Is that Setanta sizing up potential relegation battles to maximise viewing figures ?

It's just like watching the Dons I was in control with no real fear of defeat, then I fail to make the right substitution, a dodgy refereeing decision (see Sharon argument!) and a late strike and its all gone tit shaped. Well played though mate You took your goals well. A clean sweep in the CD is an impressive sight regardless of the victor.

Oh come on mate, the huns losing to the team at the bottom of the league will always be funny, regardless of the impact on us (within reason of course ).

I think we will beat falkirk now. I think the players have sunk as far as they can now and will put in a blinder. By the time we have played every team in the league once we will be in the top 4.

I suspect that the top 6 places will end up as they are at present with Killie, UTD, Hearts and Hibs taking up the 4 places.

your thinking has gotten all fucked up

Sounded to me exactly the same as the UTD game (and possibly Hamilton as well). We had huge amounts of possession and so were able to look reasonably good in spells. Critically though, we made very few chances and never really looked like scoring from open play. It's all well and good to say that we 'played well' but when a team comes to Pittodrie and sits in, soaking up the minor amount of pressure we put on them and then waits to hit us with the sucker punch then we are going to get done everytime. We only had possession because Hibs let us have it, as did UTD when they came to Pittodrie. These teams are coming up and mugging us because we haven't got the fire power to hurt them. Its fucking embarrassing.

We could be brothers

Wishful thinking there mizer ? I'm bored rigid with the bleeding hearts coming out of Pittodrie. You might be hurting, so I suggest you take a long hard look at whats going on around you and SHUT THE FUCK UP. You at least have the position and power to affect it so go out and FUCKING DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT FOR FUCK SAKE. :hammer:

Didn't see Everton but I thought Motherwell were piss poor tonight. They defended very poorly (something we did very well in Europe last year) and looked devoid of ideas going forward. Their Calderwood-esque tactics towards the end were utterly comical. McGhee for manager ? Na, not that fussed really.

Different set of fixtures. Not apples with apples

I wrote a short story once during a particularly dull game against Aidrie in the 80s. I then shamelessly promoted it to death. Really really embarrassing stuff

One of the problems with JC's reign is the peaks and troughs we experience. This is why I have said I'm sure it will be 'turned around', however, I don't for a second believe it will be a long term turnaround. It will more likely be a short burst of results followed by another sticky patch..... ad infinitum. That's my long view and it makes me think that a change would be good but that is only if we can secure a manager who can actually do something more. I'm not interested in sacrificial sackings to appease a blood thirsty section of our fanbase who have a time horizon of about a dozen games before the wrists are being opened again. It seems to me that anyone on here who gives more than an ounce of reasoned thought to this debate has a similar outlook so for now its about getting behind them and hoping for a burst of success to push us up the table and see what goes from there. I agree with Jager that we will probably just have to ride out the contract and see what's in store after that. At least we're not a bank.

This pricing policy may be based on a head count, if two huns were to breed then its likely at least one of the children would have two heads ?

Yeah I clocked that I appreciate the support but being an opinionated fucker I like to labour the point

Its an acceptable standard because to better it goes against the logical outcome of where we are positioned in Scottish footballing terms. I'll repeat it again for those at the back of the class shall I ? If we are expected to be 4th then we should expect to be in a semi final. To oust the 1st & 2nd position teams would have to be considered stretching us beyond our rightful expectation. This may offend your aspirations and dreams but its logic I am pedalling. Therefore, semi finals are acceptable standards unless you can convince me otherwise ? Your logic seems to suggest that if semi finals are not acceptable standards then we should expect finals ? I fail to see how when there are 3 teams who have more resource than we do. Feel free to explain it to me though, I may be missing a crucial point.

I don't think I am saying that they are success, I'm saying they are the acceptable standard, the expectation. In saying that, looking at the start of this season I'd take one semi in a heartbeat.

When the midfielder being compared has scored 2 goals and the top strikers are failing to match it then I'll concede to that comparison. You know yourself its a fucking ridiculous comparison to make.

To my knowledge (and I confess that is limited) we are the 4th best resourced team in the SPL in terms of the players budget. Its possible that Hibs have better although I'm pretty sure their wealth and profit generation goes elsewhere. It's also possible that Dundee UTD provide more money for players as they are still fairly reckless when it comes to cutting their cloth. However, I will stick with my original assertion that we are placed 4th. With the 4th biggest resource in terms of player spend, we can 'logically' expect to be the 4th best placed team in all competitions. That means top 4 in the league, a good shout at Europe and cup semi-finalists. It goes without saying that you can't always achieve that but you can at least expect it. JC has a 50% success rate in the last 2 seasons (Europe 1 of 2, top 4 1 of 2 and semifinals 2 of 4) so has not been an unmitigated disaster. However, a 50% success rate with a major deterioration in footballing terms and the reduced crowd revenue that comes from it we are in serious need of a change (not necessarily the manager but something). I'm willing to wait and see what happens with what is a new side this season but I have serious reservations about the future under JC.

I can't see Aberdeen FC being even remotely interested in a managerial change. They signed JC up for 3 years off the back of what they will have seen as a very good season last year. While we are all concerned about the deterioration of the playing side, the club will have been rubbing their hands at what was a very very lucrative season financially. JC is a fantastic manager in their eyes and that's what is important.

Aye, 3 strikers with one goal each at this stage is pretty rank.

I'm all for being realistic rather than the hysteria that has been seen on here in recent weeks. However, I'm not in favour of this argument anymore. Just because we were subject to (and accepted) utter rubbish in terms of management and performances in a ten year period prior to JC arriving does not mean we should be 'grateful for what we have now'. There has been a sizemic shift in Scottish football in the last 5 years as budgets are reigned in and player standards across the board have eroded in the face of financial crisis. A large number of SPL sides are now shopping in the basement and are unable to pay anything like the money they previously did. At the time when we were playing utter horse we were cutting costs out of line with most other teams. We are now, relatively speaking, better off than most with regard to available budgets and spending power. My rather laboured point is that we should be expecting to be top 4 and semi-finalists minimum with our resource. If our manager is not able to do this then he is not utilising that resource as effectively as clubs who are poorer than us. The benchmark is not how we were 5 years ago, its how other clubs are now. Lets stop thinking things are great because they were so utterly pish before.