I'm not saying its wrong for them to go back to them, as most of them have worked hard and from scratch to get where they are. But I suppose the point Andrew is making is that they don't have a permananent physical presence in the community that they were helping. I keep going on about these two, but they actually hired the people who had started the community programmes (they had a very basic wage to start with but funding was cut etc...). We could start a whole new thread on philanthropy Most people on that programme give 10k max, but these guys, especially the guy in possil park gave about 250k to support one scheme. I know it makes them look good but I think its nice to know acts of kindness still exist, maybe they don't need to be on such a scale, but they exist nonetheless.