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So far exactly in line with my expectations.

Totally agree.

Also we have hit the bar 5 times you know. Brown is definately part of the problem.

Pished already?

Article has just pissed me off further as well. To try and blame the fans for the mess we are in is farcial. Shows up Brown as nothing but a yes man as well. The more I have read from him this week the more I am convinced he needs to be emptied as quickly as possible along with the chairman and the rest of the board.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/spl/2011/09/23/stewart-milne-keeps-aberdeen-running-with-his-own-cash-as-debts-hit-12m-86908-23439964/

Big bit from Duncan Fraser and Craig Brown praising the work of the ex wig purchaser in the Daily Record this morning IN CRISIS on the pitch - flirting with financial meltdown off it. The latest in a long line of cup exits to a bunch of lower-league minnows is devastating enough for Pittodrie punters long used to suffering. But chief executive Duncan Fraser last night laid bare the extent of Aberdeen's plight - and revealed only the support of Stewart Milne is keeping the club out of the administrator's clutches. Chairman and building magnate Milne, often the target for frustrated fans, has had to give his personal guarantee to Dons' bankers as their debt has soared above £12million. And with gates dropping more than 3000 below the break-even figure - meaning Aberdeen are losing around £60,000 at every home game - Milne has had to dip into his own pocket to keep the club going. He even personally funded the signing of Rory Fallon after Craig Brown insisted the striker would turn their dismal season around. And Fraser admitted the only way to entice Red Army deserters back is by putting a winning team on the park. Asked whether Aberdeen could continue to sustain these losses, keep their bankers happy and source finance to build a new stadium, the Dons chief insisted: "There are other clubs in a helluva lot more trouble than Aberdeen but we are fortunate to have the backing we do from our major shareholder. "That's the bottom line. Our guys have been pushing the boat out as much as they can. "Stewart supports the club in terms of its overall operation while we live within our budget which is the highest in my time here. "There are not a lot of people prepared to do that. It's a thankless task." Milne has offered to step aside if a suitable buyer comes forward but interest so far is scarce. Despite the latest cup debacle against East Fife, the Pittodrie board, after holding their own post-mortem on the costly loss, remain convinced Brown is the right man to turn the club around. Fraser said: "Our belief we have the right men in charge won't be changed by one bad cup result. "The meeting was about coming up with ways to help Craig and Archie Knox. "Lots of ideas were kicked around and we hope they will prove beneficial. "We appointed Craig and Archie because we needed the best experienced management team available to take us through a period of transition. Craig and Archie have worked tirelessly to lay the foundations for a more successful team. "The defeat by East Fife is a massive setback and the manager has admitted that but no one at the club is trying to hide from their share of the responsibility. "The result was totally unacceptable and the fact it was only the latest in a long line of poor cup results adds to the disappointment. "But it is the first since Craig and Archie took over and they made it clear they are determined it won't happen again. "Despite the League Cup defeat, progress has been made under Craig and Archie and most observers have praised them for the improvement and organisation shown on the pitch. "They have also made signings over the last period and we have a far stronger squad than last season but that's why the result against East Fife was such a shock. "Everything will now be aimed at improving our league results and giving Craig and Archie everything they need to fulfil their ambitions for our club. "I don't think we should ever put a timescale on results improving. "That is not the road to go down, you don't do that to guys of Craig and Archie's experience. You must make sure you give them as much support as possible. It would do no good to create an uncertain atmosphere among the players at this time. "I have stated our squad is stronger and it's now up to them to respond for the manager and our fans. "I'm sure there will be more changes, as there has been during every transfer window so far. "The manager placed his faith in the players he has now when the last window closed and it's up to them to repay that. "It's not for me to tell our fans what to do. The only way to get them back is by winning games and they have always shown a willingness to do that." Dons boss Brown agreed his chairman had gone the extra mile to back his plans to build a successful team. And he revealed former Pittodrie manager Sir Alex Ferguson had advised him to take the job because Milne would do everything possible to help him. Brown said: "I don't know who is criticising the chairman but I would rather listen to Sir Alex. "When we were considering coming here he phoned and said Aberdeen have a very good chairman. "He is no mug, he has an antenna for everything and is the godfather as far as I am concerned. "We have seen nothing to change our minds on that. "Whether it was Steven Smith or Nick Blackman on loan, or to go and get Fallon, the chairman has found the funding to sign these players. I'm not ingratiating myself here. I'm not a crawler and if I thought otherwise I would say it. "He has been very supportive and there has been a lot of money put in over the years. "The chairman was right, the East Fife result was unacceptable. We had a meeting at Gleneagles and he told us he was putting a statement out, mainly because of the calls he was taking. The statement was spot on. "This is a wonderful club that should not have the kind of result we had on Tuesday against East Fife. "People told me about previous results and we were determined it would not happen to us but it did and it's unacceptable."

3 wins in last 20 matches, not signing full backs, signing Chris Clark, and lack of creation in the team all point towards failing for me.

That count as the dreaded vote of confidence for Brown then?

You are indeed correct. For that alone Browns position should be open to question.

In/oot: In - Oot Prematcher: Edinburgh City Social club Match: Edinburgh City v Brora in 1st round of SC Postmatch: Flat Prediction: City 2-1... Dons to lose. Crowd: If there more than a couple of hundred dons fans I will be surprised

Best bit is the old fool claiming the crowd would have been the same if we had been top the league.

Brown is not honourable (just ask his wife) so no chance he will do the decent thing and walk.

Do we give them credit for tonight then?

1-1

In/oot: oot Prematcher: Work Match: Radio/watching Leeds v Man U on Sky Postmatch: Bed Prediction: Dons 3-0 Fife minks Crowd: 4230

Fallon is in the paper today admitting it was not a penalty as defender won the ball but saying he did not dive.

matching mine.

2-2 draw with fucking Killie at home and some fucking clowns think we should be getting credit.

Stoke winning 1-0 in Kiev!

In/oot: oot even though I was offered free tickets last week has scunnered me Prematcher: House Match: local junior game Postmatcher: House Prediction: Dons 0-2 Killie Crowd: 8500

If it was not for the pending court cases I would have agreed with you. Fair chance he will get the jail for at least one if not both court cases and will leave Hibs scrambling to find a replacement.

It was that thought that got the previous clown in trouble.

It wasn't funny the first time.

Did anyone attend this meet and greet or got any idea what other subjects were raised?