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Car boot job?

WSC still refuses to publish anything about them or include them in their season preview supplements.

I'm sure with added corporate facilities and non-match day functions the RDS has/is paying for itself. It was/is the crazy wages, signing on and transfer fees that put us in debt

Well it is almost half one and can't see anything on the fishall site or anywhere else

And that is the point surely. It is using symbolism that rightly or wrongly has been appropriated by the huns and would never have been on show at Parkhead if it wasn't for the sectarian fascination in Glasgow, ergo the fans with the flag were either stooping to a pretty low hunnish level to wind up the tims or actually believe in that crap.

Is it the number of posts in this thread before you tell us the fucking answer?

Interesting, and despite what somebody behind me was trying to tell me, that flag has never been seen at any other ground. Strange then that it appears at Parkhead as some kind of hunnish symbol to wind up the tims. Shall we see a black and red tricolour at Ibrox to antagonise the huns or will the union flag come out again?

Odds of us going bust, getting kicked out the league and joining the Northern Junior 1st Division?

So just close the doors and call it a day?

Odds on Dons winning the championship?

As seen at Parkhead

The number of posts stoney has made on the above subject in the last week divided by care factor?

Similar thread on Mad is about 60/40 in favour of the sack

Wasn't really looking for reasons, the poll was simply to prove to myself that the guy from the Trust was as ignorant and out of touch from the fans (I know) as I thought he was. I presume the only reasons for not sacking now are either finanicial, or timing (in that we should hang on till Jan/May/the apocolypse)

I'm sure I've written similar things as the OP before, as have others. There are so many things wrong with afc but for me the club just doesn't know what it's aims and reason for being are any more. I suspect many fans are in a similar position. There is that continual pull between wanting stability, living within our means and a longterm future, which probably accepts that we are just another Motherwell or United. Destined never to achieve anything of note but might manage a wee European trip a couple of times a decade and trophy every 20-30years. And then wanting afc to be a cut above these also rans, in Europe more seasons that not, cup finals a few times a decade and a cup win more frequently than one every 15yrs (and counting). You could say we aren't hitting the hights of even a United or Well at the moment, but if our aim is at that level we will have many seasons like this. On top of that we have prevaricated over the stadium issue for nigh on 15years and are only now even beginning the process of getting proper training facilities (one of the few positives in the last 2-3 years). There can be no doubt Pittodrie is a thoroughly miserable place for 90% of matches and has been for years and years. There was a brief spell when the combination of the new ultras group and relative onfield success under Jimmy led to a genuine sense of atmosphere at the old ground for perhaps the first time since the 90s but it was too brief. We the fans must shoulder some of that blame but if you look around most Scottish (and indeed English) grounds the home support is muted at best for most of the 90mins. Perhaps the new stadium (sic) will give fans a boost and I dare say people will look forward to going to a spanking new stadium, all enclosed, with modern up to date facilities rather than sitting in the driving wind and rain of the South Stand, the shed of the Merkie or the fire trap with rugs in the Main but then will the Stadium issue not just prove to be a massive distraction financially and emotionally over the next 5-10 years. The club need to make clear, unequivicol statements about what it sees as the future for afc, where they see the club being in 5, 10 years time and how the aim to get there. We need to build on the bright shoots that are beginning to peep through in the Youth System and that means ensuring who ever the next manager is has a record and commitment to youth development and of getting the most from young players as too many of them lose their way at Pittodrie. Willie Miller and/or the club need to make a case for why we are paying for essenitally two chief executives in the form of Willie and Duncan Fraser, showing clearly the benefit on and off the pitch. These are important issues but ultimately the biggest problem is Scottish Football as a whole. The game is stale, if not rotten to the core. The pursuit of the big buck in the last 15yrs by all clubs at the top of Scottish Football and the formation of the SPL has skewed an already lopsided league so heavily in favour of the two big Glasgow Clubs. The TV deals and constant media coverage of everything the OF do or say has resulted in the biggest average crowds in decades (maybe ever) at the OF while every other club has seen support seep away due the sheer relentless barrage of OF domination. There are lots of suggested cures to this problem but none of them easy and less of them likely. Alot will depend on the OF realising even their fans won't continue to pay to watch such an unattractive, unbalanced league forever. I'm not holding my breath. So, in answer to the original question, the "cancer" at the core of the club is (in no particular order): The board and directors of the club, the fans, the "stadium issue" and the whole of Scottish Football.

WTF the fuck? People really are fucking mental.

Sorry am I missing something? When did Pele ever have cash to spend?

Not the first time there's been that kinda chat about Leitch. I'm not holding my breath however.

Can someone clarify employment law for me. If someone is doing a demonstrably terrible job. Is failing to do what is demanded of them in their job description and bringing the company into disripute cannot he not just get sacked, no compensation, just pack your things and get the fuck out? If a teacher, doctor, engineeer, bin man or McDonald worker is shit at their job I'm pretty sure they don't get any compensation. Why not football managers?

Interesting to hear, on Sportsound last night, some fucking nugget from the Trust claiming that 66% of Trust members he had canvassed (n=) wanted McGhee to stay. He then proceeded to spend alot of time defending him and to a degree Wiggy. I think incredulous would be a good way to describe Traynor's response. So I'd thought we could have our own poll. No need to explain yourself. Straight Yes or No. Sack now or not?

It wasn't so much that we used the cash to clear some debt, more that rather than investing in the team, it was actually weakened significantly. We lost several important players who we either never replaced or got much poorer, cheaper replacements in for. This attitude continued over the end of the Calderwood era and into the current McGoo disaster. I suppose it is questionable whether, having kept that team together we would have gone onto greater things, or maintained regular European Football, as after all that seasons league form was pretty poor and saw some truely woeful performances, but you get the feeling the the attitude taken that season to put the debt above continuity on the park to maintain performances and results has been the root of the problem over the last few years and has perhaps resulted in us losing alot of what we gained financially as a result of poor crowds, poor league and cup form and the sacking/appointing of management teams

Given 45 folk have voted and you could vote for as many folk as you'd be happy with, it must be pretty concerning that so few options are even in double figures, never mind have majority acceptance, never mind support. Current Standings (number of votes): Derek Adams 14 Gordon Strachan 11 Jock Scott 11 Paul Hartley 10 Darren Ferguson 9 Jimmy Calderwood 9 George Burley 8 Steve Clark 8 Eric Black 8 Alan Curbishley 7 Craig Brown 7 Billy Stark 7 Derek McInness 7 Terry Butcher 7 ---bar---

True, although I think Fyvie and Pawlett would be there if fit.

Or that he will be too old for the U21's next campaign.....

I rate what Derek Adams has done at County but I'm surprised he is well out in front in the poll so far. Although, not as far as we know, a raging alcoholic I'd be worried about employing another guy with no SPL record. Also not sure about his record about bringing kids through at County, maybe someone can fill me in. I know George Adams is there but the Conty sides of recent times seem to have been full of SPL and 1st Div cast offs.