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Well if getting into the group stages is really that important then we are screwed. Even if we get through we won't be seeded in the next round and will face some pretty decent sides.

you gonna work my shift in East Kilbride for me?

quite If we can keep a clean sheet we may have a chance but unfortunately this game has probably come 2 signings too early. I too will also be looking for TV coverage of this....any ideas?

But equally has anybody actually strengthened their team? Probably St Mirren and St Johnstone, and maybe Celtic. Everyone else is weakened just as badly, if not more so, than us. (It's just that we started from quite a low base with our defence)

Team lines for Plymouth on Saturday: So no Johnson but both Paterson (who scored) and McLean started. Also note on their website that it says Paterson has "probably been on the pitch for more pre-season minutes than any other outfield Pilgrim" So those two will be staying put then. I reckon Luggy is doing it on purpose, still holding a grudge against us from the 80s

So McDonald, Kerr and Diamond have been captains in our preseason games so far. Presumably Mark will have to decide between them before Thursday. From what I have read Kerr didn't really impress in that role so are we to presume it is between McDonald and Diamond?

It seems that is afc policy

Regardless of who is manager we still have essentially the same team as last year, minus Seve. So unsurprisingly we still have the same problems. I wasn't there on Saturday but from what I have read it sounds like we looked good passing it about early on but then suffered from a lack of goal scoring opportunities or the ability to take a shot when offered one. This has been a problem for some time and will take more than a week or two in Austria to sort out. We also seem to have a lack of belief, so that when the passing game doesn't result in goals we revert to lumping the ball forward aimlessly thus putting extra pressure on our thread bare defence. Thirdly, as TF repeatedly points out, we have a squad full of fucking stupidly thick individuals, so unsurprisingly it will take them a while to adjust to any new ideas or tactics. We have had terrible pre-seasons for as long as I can remember. I have never seen a pre-season friendly that has done anything other than bore and depress me. Some times the terrible pre-season is followed by a good season, sometimes not. Equally our signing policy doesn't seem to have changed in years, namely announce our targets, fail miserably to get anywhere near them, then scramble around for a cut price French third division player. I suspect the UEFA Cup will be too soon for us, and would have been regardless. However we need to be up to speed for the opening day as the tims seem to be getting in to the scoring habit and our defence was exposed too often last season to not feel a little nervous at the prospect of facing them. After that, however, we have the chance for a decent wee run, but yet again, how many times have we said that before. I'm looking forward to this season, however I do so with a degree of trepidation, partly caused by the feeling that whatever happens too many idiots will be continuing to argue the ludicrous JMG/JIG debate with reference to our performance this year.

Aberdeen IN: OUT: Scott Severin, midfielder (Watford); Jamie Smith, midfielder; Lee Mair defender (St Mirren) Celtic IN: Lukasz Zaluska, goalkeeper (Dundee Utd); Marc-Antoine Fortune, forward (Nancy £3.8m); Landry N'Guemo, midfielder (Nancy, loan); Daniel Fox, defender (Coventry, undisclosed) OUT: Shunsuke Nakamura, midfielder (Espanyol); Bobo Balde, defender; Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink, forward; Paul Hartley, midfielder (Bristol City); Scott Cuthbert, defender (Swindon, £100,000) Dundee United IN: Danny Cadamarteri, forward (Huddersfield); Jennison Myrie-Williams, forward (Bristol City); Steve Banks, goalkeeper/coach (Hearts); Andy Webster, defender (Rangers, loan); Damian Casalinuovo, forward (Platense, undisclosed) OUT: Lukasz Zaluska, goalkeeper (Celtic); Sean Fleming, midfielder (Montrose); Gordon Pope, defender (Montrose); Fraser Milligan, defender (Montrose); Michael McGovern, goalkeeper (Ross County); Danny Grainger, defender (St Johnstone, undisclosed) Falkirk IN: Brian McLean, defender (Motherwell); Ryan Flynn, midfielder (Liverpool, loan); Marc Twaddle, defender (Partick Thistle, undisclosed); Alex MacDonald, midfielder (Burnley, loan); Danijel Marceta striker (Partizan Belgrade, loan) OUT: Michael Higdon, forward (St Mirren); Kevin McBride, midfield (Hibernian); Steve Lovell, striker; Patrick Cregg, midfielder (Hibernian); Dani Mallo, goalkeeper Hamilton Accies IN: Marvin Andrews, defender (Raith Rovers) OUT: Chris Swailes, defender (Gateshead); Kenny Deuchar, forward (St Johnstone); Rocco Quinn, midfielder (Queen of the South); Derek Asamoah, forward, Stephen Ettien, forward; Brian Easton, defender (Burnley £350,000), James McCarthy, midfielder (Wigan £1.2m); Joel Thomas, forward (Colchester £125,000) Hearts IN: Ian Black, midfielder (Inverness); Jesus Manuel Santana Abreu, forward (Tenerife); Dawid Kucharski, defender (Lech Poznan); Ismael Bouzid, defender (Ankaragucu); David Witteveen. striker (Red Bull Salzburg) OUT: Robbie Neilson, defender (Leicester); Christos Karapidis, defender (Omonia Nicosia); Bruno Aguiar, midfielder (Omonia Nicosia); Steve Banks, goalkeeper (Dundee Utd) Hibernian IN: Patrick Cregg, midfielder (Falkirk); Daniel Galbraith, forward (Manchester Utd); Kevin McBride, midfielder (Falkirk) OUT: Rob Jones, defender (Scunthorpe United); Grzegorz Szamotulski, goalkeeper; Denes Rosa, midfielder; Fabian Yantorno, midfielder; Damon Gray, forward; Andrew McNeil, goalkeeper; Steven Fletcher, forward (Burnley £3m); Alan O'Brien, forward (Swindon); Rob Jones, defender (Scunthorpe, undisclosed) Kilmarnock IN: Graeme Owens, midfielder (Middlesbrough) OUT: Allan Johnston, forward, David Lilley defender (Queen of the South), Willie Gibson, midfielder (Dunfermline), Grant Murray defender (Raith Rovers); Scott Anson, forward (Annan Athletic) Motherwell IN: Michael Fraser, goalkeeper (Inverness); Steve Jennings, midfielder (Tranmere); Chris Humphrey, forward (Shrewsbury); Giles Coke, midfielder (Northampton); John Ruddy, goalkeeper (Everton) OUT: Stephen Hughes, midfielder (Norwich), Graeme Smith, goalkeeper (Brighton); Bob Malcolm, midfielder (Brisbane Roar); Brian McLean, defender (Falkirk); Steven Coutts, goalkeeper (Montrose); David Clarkson, forward (Bristol City, undisclosed); Paul Quinn, defender (Cardiff, undisclosed) Rangers IN: OUT: Christian Dailly, defender; Brahim Hemdani, midfielder; Dean Furman, midfielder (Oldham); Graeme Smith, goalkeeper (St Johnstone); Andy Webster, defender (Dundee Utd, loan); Barry Ferguson, midfielder (Birmingham £1.2m) St Johnstone IN: Kenny Deuchar, forward (Hamilton); Dave MacKay, defender (Livingston); Murray Davidson, midfielder (Livingston); Graeme Smith, goalkeeper (Rangers); Danny Grainger, defender (Dundee Utd, undisclosed) OUT: Steven Doris, midfielder (Arbroath); Kevin James, defender (Ayr United) St Mirren IN: Lee Mair, defender (Aberdeen); Michael Higdon, striker (Falkirk); Paul Gallacher, goalkeeper (Dunfermline) OUT: Jim Hamilton, forward (Partick Thistle); Ryan McCay, defender; Will Haining, defender; Marc McAusland, defender (Queen of the South), Gary Mason, midfielder; Franco Miranda, defender

will we sign anyone? ever?

mair photos: Meant to look like this at some point:

the prices will drop again in a few days once the PANIC is over

Stadium has a capacity of 12,000

Jesus christ, how did Well lose the first leg to this mob: 7-0 after 50mins

UEFA site http://www.uefa.com/live/competitions/uefacup/matchcentrelight/matchday=-5/day=1/match=2000595/index.html 0-0 after 40mins Vaduz have just gone 2-0 up vs Falkirk in the 105th minute

To be fair these Albanians probably couldn't cope with the culture shock of staying in Lanarkshire. Never before will they have seen such deprivation and depravity. SkySports haven't updated the Fram/Sigma game yet, still down as a 2000 KO

Motherwell look like they are through 5-0 now, after 34mins

skysports score centre give you a wee cheer when one of your selected games has a goal

Motherwell look like they are through 4-0 now, after 28mins

Motherwell look like they are through 3-0 now, after 25mins

Given the time of year and the relatively short notice will we have that many heading out?

Friendly Match Borussia M'gladbach 2-0 Dundee Cardiff 0-0 Celtic Chelsea 2-0 Inter Milan Darlington 0-0 Hamilton Dorchester 1-2 Bristol City Dumbarton 0-5 Middlesbrough Forres Mechanics 0-2 Inverness CT Lisburn Distillery 1-3 St Johnstone Peterhead 2-3 Aberdeen Thailand 1-1 Liverpool

was it? really? Looks like what we have all been saying ever since Russell and Hart left still stands. We desperately need a decent CB and a full back who can actually defend

we lost 4-0 last time Apparently our goal was "never a pen"