glasgow sheep

If we can't qualify through the league we don't deserve europe. Fair play league, hurumph.

Disappointed by the lack of footage of this. Where is the equivalent of half a dozen asc hitting an old man (sic) over the head?

In/Out - OOT Prediction - United 2-1 Aberdeen Pre match - My scratcher During Match - Watching Hibs v Hearts, probably, with the radio on of our game Post Match - F'in fucking night shift

obviously

and despite apparently publishing some great end of year figures:

I'll no doubt renew but I've only seen 2 half decent 45mins of football this season at pittodrie, Well and Falkirk. All the rest has been unremittingly awful.

Hearts weren't included in the above info however they have finally released figures today: Despite bringing in over £9 million for players, and £12 million for the debt and equity scheme hearts debt only reduced by approximately £7 million pounds to £30 million. Turnover £9.1 Million Wages £11.2 Million Wages/Turnover Ratio: 123% Another concern for Hearts is that they are due to repay £17.6mn to Ubig in February 2010.

They'll be sadly disappointed then On another not unrelated topic I hear the huns got a bit of a battering along London Road on Sunday after their game with hibs

Only things worth watching on TV at the moment are Charlie Brooker's Newswipe, Stewart Lee's Comedy Vehicle, 24 and occasionally Shameless (better than recent series but still not a patch on the first couple). Also rated the documentary series Hospital on Channel 4. Brilliantly illustrates the pressures on the NHS created by "patient choice" and the "me, now" generation.

Reading other forums it seems United actually remind the SPL that Dundee were playing at home that day and that they would need to be playing away from home that Saturday. If true it is truly staggering. They can shift fixtures about to accommodate a fun run and a few hundred rugger buggers at Murrayfield but ignore a SFL match. Utter, utter incompetent cunts

Fixtures set by an organisation housed in the same fucking building as them too.....fuck they probably have lunch together!! Emailed Pittodrie about this as the SPL cleverly don't even have a way of contacting them on their website. They have kindly passed my email onto them, although I don't expect any reply as that would require the ability to hit keys on a keyboard in a semi coordinated manner. Now to add to the chaos the game is pay at the gate, a game that even on a Thursday night is likely to attract a sizeable crowd, most turning up late-ish, with the inevitable lack of change at the turnstiles likely to cause queues round the block.

United v Tim game is on Setanta on the Tue so couldn't be moved. But agree total farce that they can take into account a charity run and rugby cup final but can't coordinate things with their fellow blazers down the corridor at Hampden. Mind you should we be surprised, particularly after they unilaterally announced their season start date without consulting with the SFA or the SFL in the full knowledge that Scotland had an important World Cup Qualifier in August

We should be aiming to win all 5, but presumably won't bother at ibrox as per usual. We should aim for that, unfortunately in reality it will be a minor miracle to win the 3 home games never mind anything else. We haven't won at Ibrox since Maguire was in nappies and haven't won in Tannadice since Harry Potter appeared on the scene (I think), so to have any chance of 3rd (stop laughing at the back) we need to beat the tims.....oh well.

Is this not getting boring? I was under the impression pretty much everyone agrees that JC has served his time and should go in the summer, yet eedjits still insist on acting the cunt and wanking on about JMG/JIG/JISM. I thought we had said, thanks for the memories but cheerio. Or has everyone has changed their minds in the last week or two while I've been off the internet and now we all actually think JC should stay and bore us to death for another two years? And don't get me started on the over reaction to the "protest". You'd have thought those behind it had shat on the front steps of Pittodrie the way folk have been going on about it.

except they don't Aberdeen £9.0M http://www.football-finances.org.uk/aberdeen/debt2.htm Hibs £6.8M http://www.football-finances.org.uk/hibs/debts.htm But yeah they must have been in a hell of a debt given they made £9M from selling their car park according to that link, never mind player sales

Went back to the website and had a look at the Killie section:

From the first graph it would seem they are paying more cash as I think it is displayed as a % of all SPL wages!! The third graph represents the wages/income ratio

http://www.football-finances.org.uk/spl/turnover.htm NB: The Hearts figures are for 2007 season as the club is late, and being fined, for the late filing of their 2008 results.

Chuck the above was copied direct from afc.co.uk. I presume, however, that Allan will print the story pretty much verbatim in the EE tonight

http://www.afc.premiumtv.co.uk/javaImages/2a/a5/0,,10284~5678378,00.jpg[/img] Loirston Loch in Nigg has today (Friday, April 3) been recommended as the optimum location for a new community stadium in Aberdeen. It follows a year long series of feasibility studies to analyse the deliverability of both this locality and the King's Links, near Aberdeen Beach. Prior to this, a number of potential sites across the city were examined by both AFC and Aberdeen City Council and all were assessed to be undeliverable. Each site was examined in three key areas - the environmental assessment; travel and transport, and finally the business and design case. The Arena Project Team, a partnership between Aberdeen Football Club and Aberdeen City Council, was tasked with overseeing the process of selecting the best locality for a new community stadium. Expert consultants were appointed to carry out the feasibility studies - Faber Maunsell examined the environmental assessment, while travel and transport examination was carried out by SIAS Transport Planners and finally, Gardiner and Theobald scrutinised the business and design case. A previous feasibility study which was carried out by international consultants, ARUP, in late 2007 also recommended Loirston as the most deliverable site for a new stadium. A summary of the report's findings include: * For the Environmental Impact Assessment, there were no insurmountable issues for either site * The Traffic Impact Study concluded that Loirston could be sustainable based on similar transportation models and, with the proposed building of the Aberdeen Western Peripheral Route, would offer a good location * While both sites offered the potential for community facilities, given Cove Rangers FC support for Loirston, this location would offer extensive integrated community facilities while the restricted size of the King's Links site would reduce the potential for these facilities. * The capital costs are lower for Loirston than the King's Links - £38million, compared to £42million (and the latter figure excludes third party relocation costs). There is potential funding from prospective partners for a significant proportion of this capital spend and commitment to a deliverable site could allow AFC to bridge this funding gap. * In terms of ownership, the King's Links which is on Common Good land, has been deemed by legal opinion to be a riskier option and relocating the existing leaseholders could prove to be costly * After initial findings from the feasibility work, the focus changed last year as commercial development (for example, hotels and offices) was not deemed to be economically viable, instead the studies were to concentrate on the community facilities Duncan Fraser, Managing Director of Aberdeen Football Club and a member of the Arena Project Advisory and Monitoring Board, said the findings of the report mark a vital step towards the building of a new stadium in Aberdeen. "When it was first decided to look at the two sites in December 2007, we knew that it was essential to carry out a detailed examination of each site to assess which was the most deliverable," he said. "The bottom line is that it isn't viable to redevelop Pittodrie. It is an outdated stadium and we absolutely have to move, we have no other option but to relocate. We recognise how difficult this is for supporters as the beach area is for many the spiritual home of Aberdeen Football Club. These recommendations have still to be approved and at the appropriate time, there will be a full consultation process with all of our stakeholders including, of course, fans as their feedback and opinion is so important. "For over a year now, the consultants, with support from both Aberdeen Football Club and Aberdeen City Council, have been working exceptionally hard, examining their particular area of expertise. They have looked at the strengths and the challenges of each of the sites and have assessed that Loirston is the most deliverable across the board - in terms of capital costs, enabling opportunities, timescales, risk mitigation and economic impact. "As well as having a new home for Aberdeen Football Club, we should consider the economic and social benefits to the North-east. "Research has proved that a new stadium would not just enhance the local economy but would provide an overall qualitative impact to an area and we feel strongly that this would be the case in Aberdeen. "It has long been acknowledged that Aberdeen needs and deserves an iconic stadium and the Loirston site would be a natural gateway to the city. This report marks an exciting new stage in the bid to provide the local community with this facility. "We would like to praise the consultants for their diligence and hard work and also thank all the local businesses and representatives who were interviewed as part of overall process. Keith Moorhouse, Chairman of Cove Rangers FC, welcomed the report's recommendation and believes it opens the doors for a long term development of the area. "The consultants have shown that Loirston is the only deliverable site for Aberdeen FC and this opens opportunity for Cove Rangers FC to deliver our own stadium at this location. It offers a fantastic opportunity for a real community approach in the area." An economic impact analysis completed in 2006 determined that Aberdeen FC contributes at least £6 million per year to the local economy. The club also supports a total of 350 full time equivalent jobs. The report will now go out to consultation and will be referred to the Policy and Strategy Committee on April 28. http://www.afc.premiumtv.co.uk/javaImages/20/a6/0,,10284~5678624,00.jpg[/img]

Always going to be the case. Coming from Glasgow for most games it doens't make much difference to me either way, especially if they build a train station next to/near the ground

Nothing wrong with a protest if it is carried out properly. A half-arsed attempt organised by a bunch of fannies from afc hat before a game is only likely to pour ridicule on the majority view that JC has to go.

Demonstrate after a game you utter cretins

Harry Potter is a cunt