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Moan all you want I'm going to enjoy this fucking season

I see nothing...for some reason Lee Mair is....certainly not a fucking footballer

I'm not stooping to your level of miserableness

Last Season after 22 games (played everyone twice): Pos Team Pld GD Pts 1 Celtic 22 +24 53 2 Aberdeen 22 +9 37 3 Rangers 22 +12 36 4 Hearts 22 +9 34 5 Hibernian 22 +14 32 6 Kilmarnock 22 -5 30 7 Falkirk 22 -2 27 8 Dundee Utd 22 -10 27 9 Motherwell 22 -9 25 10 Inverness CT 22 -8 24 11 St. Mirren 22 -10 23 12 Dunfermline A 22 -24 14 League Cup: Knocked out 2nd round by Queens Park Scottish Cup: About to be knocked out 4-1 in a replay by Hibs Uefa Cup: Uefa what? This season: Pos Team Pl GD Pts 1 Rangers 19 +29 44 2 Celtic 20 +34 43 3 Motherwell 20 +5 35 4 Aberdeen 22 -1 33 5 Dundee Utd 22 +2 32 6 Falkirk 22 -1 32 7 Inverness CT 22 -4 31 8 Hibernian 21 +1 28 9 Kilmarnock 22 -9 22 10 St Mirren 20 -18 22 11 Hearts 22 -8 21 12 Gretna 20 -30 10 League Cup: Semi Final vs United in a few weeks Scottish Cup: Falkirk away next week UEFA Cup: Last 32....so far Added to that we have played 6 games in 16 days, with a hell of alot of injuries and half fit players, yet have still moved up the table. Ok we're nae world beaters at the moment but given the circumstances we are doing pretty well. Hibs are in free fall. Hearts are completely out of it, well will get injuries and suspensions before long and united are also on a poor run. We are playing just about as badly as we can, but are still picking up points and surely will improve as we get folk back from injury. Bring on 2008 Can't wait

why? we have no fucking players

reasonable article, but some better comments: http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/01/04/hearts_need_drastic_surgery_an.html

we are housed in the north south? Pardon? When they say a "few" what they probably mean is about 1500 spare

what a bonnie graph and from that we can conclude our crowds have always been as good/bad (delete as appropriate) I think our attendances were probably better in the 90s but we lost a fair few, never to return after nightmares like A.Miller.

Setanta didn't show nearly enough of Stewart fighting his own team for my liking. Apparently he was at Berra even before he got himself sent off for shouting at the scum in the stands

The EPL and the Champions League have a lot to answer for. The over exposure these competitions have given to a few over hyped mega-clubs is one main reason for declining crowds. Folk watch their football in the comfort of their own home or in the pub, get to see the game from dozens of angles, have expert analysis from famous former players and "charismatic" experts, all in HD and the rest of it. Hardly surprising that being stuck in the cold with an inferior view means that even if there is not as big a difference in the quality as is made out they find it some what under whelming. Just take a look round town. How many ManU, Arsenal, Chelsea, Barca, Milan shirts do see kids wearing. Most could real off most the squad for these teams but would struggle to name a falkirk or motherwell player. I fucking hate EPL, The Champions League and Murdoch with his empire promoting it

Do we not ask this about this time every year? I, as always, went for the cup. We can make up 3 points lost against Falkirk and a proper cup run in the big cup is well overdue

I amazed that's 2 clean sheets in a row with that defence. 7 points with so many injuries is pretty good but we will need to be better if we want to beat falkirk and progress in the two domestic cups

Words fail me. What a job Frail has done as "manager" Beaten 4-1 3 sendings off and to top it all off that we ginger prick Stewart gets sent of for arguing with his own fans!! Apparently he was fighting his own team for much of the match, and ended up having to get dragged away by Berra. Highlights on the Full SPL at 10pm tonight Get it watched

The main issue is that JC hasn't signed a new contract. Until he does no one else will. Has anyone heard anything from him in this regard? Is he waiting to see what kind of cash he will get to spend in January, or is he gonna see how the season pans out?

excellent article, as always, by Ian Bell about the bottom 6 loyal: http://www.sundayherald.com/sport/shfootball/display.var.1932831.0.hearts_are_hurting_but_the_future_may_be_even_worse.php Hearts are hurting, but the future may be even worse Ian Bell Comment | Read Comments (6) THERE ARE two obvious paths by which to approach comment on the affairs of Heart of Midlothian Football Club. The first could be covered, loosely, by a weary question: where to begin? The second inquiry takes you along a darker, still unmapped by-way that might yet reveal portents significant beyond Gorgie. Hearts fans ask this one with increasing frequency. You can hardly blame them. They are suffering in the worst way for the sake of a once-great club. No obvious solution presents itself. So they ask: where will it all end? A lot of people, not just Jambos, would be interested in the answer. Once upon a time, in the good/bad old days, Hearts could flirt with relegation and ruin. advertisement They could be up or down, well run or calamitously run. They could celebrate charismatic figureheads, or damn the latest chancer (alleged). Such was life. Good or bad, though, it made a kind of sense. Even horrible decisions seemed oddly rational. Through it all Hearts would remain, with Aberdeen, a mainstay of Scottish football. They would always matter. Perennially they would provide a guarantee that, now and then, the Old Firm would receive a fright. Today? Today you can say two things about the Scottish game. The first is that there is scarcely a predictable result available to the honest punter. Celtic and Rangers are scattering points like confetti. Meanwhile, teams that acquit themselves honourably against the pair one week take fright against minnows the next. Is the Motherwell bubble burst? Are Kilmarnock back or just backwards? Whatever happened to that Dundee United revival? Anyone prepared to take even a guess at the nature of the next Hibs performance? Does the word "form" have any relationship whatsoever to Aberdeen's hopes? This is odd of itself, for reasons that need not detain us. The point is that the prevailing conditions ought to be ideal for Hearts. This should, by rights, be their moment. Instead, there is that second thing you can say with certainty: "Scotland's third club" will do well to finish the programme third from bottom. People are asking if that large, well-rewarded squad is"too good to be relegated". Yes would be the answer, though "good" - since when? - has nothing to do with it. Gretna have provided the wild card to fill out the Tynecastle hand, and that's all. It's not much. The fact that relegation is even being discussed in terms of squad numbers and quality almost tells the story. Vladimir Romanov, the quick-stepping owner, does not often step the light fantastic in Edinburgh these days. Perhaps he wearies of Scottish media conspiracies. Best put the interpreters on danger money, then, Vlad. This banker is not even worth the rhyme. You cannot even shape a cruel joke by comparing all the forgotten talk of Hearts as a Champions League force with the club's present circumstances. You cannot begin to calculate the economic consequences of Romanov's ownership, use the word "debt" in any meaningful sense, discuss asset values in terms of players' contracts, or assess the notional market value of the club's fixtures and fittings. Ask an accountant to take a look at that list, and stand well back. Even by the madcap standards of football, nothing at Tynecastle makes sense. We know that the owner cannot pick a team, or even a goalkeeper. We know that his chances of hiring a coach worthy of the club sank below the horizon long ago. What we don't know could keep conspiracy theorists in business until Elvis (the singing one) returns: what does Romanov want? Hearts were never just this rich man's toy. He is not, as best we can tell, quite that rich, and the club is not that sort of toy. Things cannot be explained entirely, meanwhile, by an admittedly fascinating import-export business in playing talent from the Baltic lands. And club ownership deployed as a calling card with the Edinburgh banking establishment is no longer plausible, if it ever was. Meanwhile debt, wherever it finds a final resting place, mounts. Alone among Scotland's top dozen, Hearts break all the rules of prudence and plain common sense. Romanov has contrived a situation whereby he renders the club impossible to sell and impossible to buy. So the new stand that once seemed a sound investment sinks into the maroon-hued ink. And the team just get worse. Perhaps, by the time you read this, they will have redeemed themselves for that Christmas gift at home to St Mirren. Perhaps. Some of them ransacked the thesaurus after that game to find new words for "apology". A big help. Yet from what I hear the defeat hurt less, for diehards, than the manner of the surrender. Hearts were always a fighting team. This lot, it is said, didn't care. Or even look as though they were trying to care. If they apologise from now until spring it might just be enough. Is the proud Vlad content with that? Who will ever know? We can forget all the Strictly Come Losing jokes, however. Mr Romanov reminds us again the criteria by which ownership is assessed and allowed in British football are merely rhetorical. No one asks who, or why, or how. Money, from whatever source, talks a good game. The hellish frustration for Hearts fans is that there is no obvious way out of this mess. Stephen Frail, "assistant manager", carries the can for the decisions of others while exhausting himself, and his reputation, by attempting to excuse the inexcusable. The team is never done "bonding", yet for the estimable Christophe Berra, receiving the captain's armband is like being handed the black spot. Senior football in Scotland is too fragile, too precarious, for Hearts to fail. Nevertheless, week in and week out we are watching a calamity unfold. Some of it is utterly inexplicable; some of it is all to easy to explain. But the Scottish game, as a community, had best to begin to prepare its response for the day when Vlad the Tap Dancer takes his last bow.

of course we do thread closed

yipeee can't say I'm really looking forward to this much will need to get down the pub and down a few pints soon I feel

currently working my way through The Ball is Round: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ball-Round-David-Goldblatt/dp/0141015829/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1198922613&sr=8-1 which is a global history of football. Pretty good reading so far but will take me till the spring to finish it at my current rate. Have If this is a man/truce by Primo Levi waiting once I'm finished

hi the sad, twisted scum decided that in order to deflect from their own horrific song book they would fabricate a song to the tune of another song that was regularly sung by us at Ibrox. The Ian Durrant Song goes to the tune of Ally's Army The Ibrox Disaster Song...well it's nae really a tune I could put a name too. But it goes along the lines of: We all agree, that ibrox is full of bigots...but with a word or two changed obviously Surely you know this? The huns chose to invent a song starting "who's that lying on the stairwell". In fact they are so twisted they invested an entire verse and chorus just to prove how scummy we . The Ibrox Disaster song hasn't been sung at pittodrie in years and hasn't been sung at Ibrox by more than a handful of pissed twats in years.The huns are talking mince and you'd be well to ignore the cunts

what utter bollocks and so sad that it has come from an Aberdeen fan. Did you use Follow Follow for your source for the above?

just seen the goals on setanta what a total shambles the hearts defence was, and as for the keeper!! What a clown, on a yellow and he trys to have a square go with a caley striker Have to say Frail looked a broken man in the interview, he looked fucking terrible.

Future Champions League Winners 9th in the SPL

ICT just scored a winner in the 92nd min YAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

fucking hearts just equalised still