glasgow sheep

http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/spl/4311533/Letting-Rangers-back-in-would-shame-SPL.html

22 yrs ago today :ultras: :ultras:

I actually found his address in my email, turns out I emailed him a few years ago about the 5% ticket tax the OF were placing on the tickets they sold for Pittodrie. Never got a reply.

Time of the month?

Someones going to jail

These guys were fucking fruit loops

cheers for the positive feedback and I'd encourage everyone to drop a line to Pittodrie in their own words. I was planning old fashioned snail mail to named directors but if you have Dave's email PM me it (although I probably have it somewhere)

Dear Mr Milne As a Season Ticket holder for many years and a member of a Supporters Club I felt that I should write to you to express my views and concerns on the unfolding drama in Scottish Football. Firstly can I say that I applaud the fact that as a club nobody has come out and commented on this story, unlike a number of others, at numerous SPL Clubs, who should have known better. The constant barrage of scare mongering, misinformation and propaganda that has been produced on this subject does nobody in Scottish Football or Scotland as a nation any credit. I now feel, however, that it is important for me to highlight how I and many of my friends and fellow supporters feel with regards to the current situation surrounding Rangers FC and the potential of a NewCo being allowed back into the SPL. For any club that goes into Administration it is important that there are severe sanctions to punish the club for what is essentially Financial Doping. The 10pt penalty currently in place is a start, and I broadly agree with the sanctions suggested by the SPL in their Financial Fair Play Proposals with regards to point penalties based on the previous season's totals. Ever since Motherwell effectively got away with cheating out of millions of pounds of debt accumulated when others were balancing the books it has been important to have sufficient sanctions in place to punish those sides that cheat the system in this manner. The Fair Play Proposals are a significant step to this end. Although the SPL Proposals go so far in addressing Financial Doping and teams which enter administration I would encourage you to look at the new Football League Rules which aim to prevent teams from getting into such financial difficulty in the first place (link to Independent article http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/championship-clubs-agree-to-financial-fair-play-rules-7678721.html ). The Football League will be requiring Clubs to submit annual accounts and keep losses to a prescribed minimum. If this is exceeded teams will be sanctioned with either a transfer embargo or fine. Wage/Turnover limits are also being introduced. These measures combined should help avoid the situation the likes of Motherwell, Dundee and now Rangers find themselves in and Scottish Football must take action now to prevent more clubs meeting a similar fate. This, unfortunately, is all a bit “after the horse has bolted” and we are now faced with a much more pressing and significant issue. It goes without saying that any club that has cheated to such a degree that they cannot exit Administration in the usual manner, with a CVA, and are liquidated, cease to exist as the same historic club. Any club formed by that team’s fans, directors or others, should be viewed as a new club with no legal or footballing connection to the old Team. There is no way, therefore, that this team, this NewCo, should be allowed directly into any league, far less the SPL. Such evasion of financial, legal, sporting and moral obligations would tarnish our League and Sport for years. Just because the team concerned is Rangers FC should not alter this, in fact if anything this should heighten the need to show complete sporting integrity. If a team can effectively cheat by paying wages it couldn't afford; allegedly make illegal payments to players on top of these wages; fail to pay PAYE and NI along with other Tax debts; and go on to dominate the sport for two decades as a result, only to then liquidate in order to avoid these collected debts and then be allowed straight back into the league purely on the basis that they are a “big team” then what is the point in the rest of us? What is the point in anyone paying their bills; What is the point trying to live within our means and balancing the books; What is the point in competing in a League where one Team can do what they like and then face no significant punishment; What is the point is respecting any rules if one Club gets to ignore them; What is the point when it appears the League is run solely for the benefit of one or two big Clubs? What is the point in paying £20+ every week to watch a rigged and morally corrupt league? The SPL would become a mockery. Scottish Football would become a joke and 1000s of fans would find some other way to spend their money each weekend. You will have seen the Independent Survey that asked Scottish Football fans their opinions on this matter, you will be aware of the Dons Supporters Together’s open letters on the subject and you will be aware (I hope) of the wider feeling amongst the Aberdeen FC Support. Any NewCo (and it looks increasingly likely there will be a NewCo in some form) must not be allowed back into the SPL. It will destroy any remaining sporting integrity the SPL may have and will cost the club significantly in lost ticket money as fans turn their back on a club and a league that are seen to bend over for the benefit of one club. This will not be a few seasons of lost revenue, this could an irreversible loss of fans and support for our club. I quite understand the concerns over the loss of the Rangers travelling support for one (or two) games per season and a possible reduction in TV revenue. But it would not take much for a lot of this lost revenue to be replaced by an increase in home support, especially in a more competitive league. I would also suggest that in any case any such financial hit in the short term is a hit worth taking to up hold sporting integrity, to maintain the support of the fans for the Club and for Scottish Football, and to ensure a viable, competitive and just league. I say again, the wrong decision now could have far more significant long term consequences for Aberdeen FC and for Scottish Football than just a drop in revenue. Finally this provides a once in a lifetime chance to reform the top of Scottish Football. The SPL has killed competitive football at the top of the game in Scotland and has long been seen to exist purely to service the European ambitions of the top two clubs. Whether Rangers are liquidated or exit administration through a CVA this is a chance to re-balance the game, re-calibrate the finances and to make Scottish Football more equitable, democratic and fair. I trust the AFC board will consider the above and make an informed decision based on sporting integrity, justice and fairness which in the long term will be for the good of Aberdeen Football Club and Scottish Football as a whole. Don’t vote to allow a NewCo back into the SPL. Yours faithfully Glasgow Sheep (Hopefully still) Season Ticket Holder

Kaboooom: http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thomsons-view/it-boss-me/1469

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Apparently the Blue Knights/Kennedy bid: £5.5M for Whytes shares and CVA, plus £2M from Europe in the next few years . Taking on £3.5M of future debt gives a total of £11M. £3M owed to Rangers, but BKs would have paid for cash flow from June. Also involved Souness and Smith as part-time non executive football directors or some such shit. CVA now impossible Club to run out of money at the end of the month They are walking away

heehee http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=463&fid=221&sty=2&act=1&mid=2114784149

Good. Lot of Thistle fans on P&B were being pretty negative about his likely position.

This isn't a new punishment, just the explanation of the previous punishment. The explanation McCoist et al demanded and which now makes them look pretty stupid. btw the three man panel for the appeal consists of a Judge, the Spartans Chairmen and the ex-Partick Chairmen. Apparently the Partick chap has certain leanings and handshakes but here is someone's take on the other two: Apparently Carlow was also involved in a recent Sectarianism case regarding the "Famine Song" which he stated was racist.

I know football/sport is different but do you not need grounds for an appeal over above "wahh it's not fair"? btw tf you have a txt

full document: http://www.scribd.com/doc/93212354/SFA-Rangers-Note-of-Reasons

This is excellent news if true. Any CVA will require as much money as possible and without the "guarantee" of Euro football for 3yrs I'm not sure how they'll balance the books other than stripping the squad back to the bare bones. Mind you qualifying for Euro means jack shit as it was there complete failure in this years competitions that precipitated this whole thing.

You ever get a reply? I'm busy working on a letter to send of to pittodrie. Is turning into a bit of an epic.

I said they should be looking at this (and with some of their fair play proposals are addressing similar issues (not paying wages, not paying tax), I didn't say they would be doing this however.

No relevant to NewCo but surely the SPL/SFL should be looking at similar rules to the Football League in England which were passed last month: http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/championship-clubs-agree-to-financial-fair-play-rules-7678721.html

Meanwhile Souness is saying he hasn't been contacted and has no interest in being involved with rangers