glasgow sheep

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16516470.stm

Nae wonder that sheep is looking nervous

Dons end sold out for the first time in a few seasons. Seems like the support is getting a bit more excited and optimistic than it has been for a while http://www.afc.co.uk/articles/20120112/rangers-v-aberdeen-tickets-sold-out_2217950_2199998

What is it with hibs and signing wee shites with attitudes?

As clever as a sledge hammer to the napper

Guess so

I'm sure I highlighted this. Cameron wants it now because he thinks he can win. Salmond wants it in 2014 because he thinks he has a better chance to win then. It's hardly a unique position in politics - see the AV referendum, the EU referendum we never had and every General Election ever held.

Plan is to stick with Sterling. They have only said that if it was in Scotland's interest in the future then a referendum would be held to ask to join the Euro. this is the same position as the UK Lib Dems and Labour parties. Or on the other hand if it was in our interest to have our own currency we could go that way. If we are forced to join the EU rather than merely continue in the EU then we are obliged to say we will join the Euro at some point, BUT not obliged to join the ERM which we would have to do in order to get the Euro and could reject it anyway in a referendum as others have.

QT tomorrow night could be entertaining.....or alternatively result in several smashed TVs across the country, as Douglas Alexander and Kelvin "cunt" McKenzie further the cause of Scottish Independence by opening their mouths:

A majority will be all that is needed, 50% + 1 vote will do it True, although I can't see the UK parliament ever agreeing to negotiations before the vote as they are all against the idea of Scottish Independence.

Simple. Much like the AV referendum and every UK General Election held the vote is called by those in power when they feel they are most likely to win. Cameron and Salmond both realise current polls suggest a fairly easy win for the status quo, hence Cameron wants the vote next week if possible (suggesting Scotland does provide a benefit to the UK, or is it all sentiment?) Salmond on the other hand thinks that another 2yrs of Condem cuts and the almost inevitable prospect of a majority Tory Govt in 2015 will mean that support for independence will rise. Time will tell if they are correct.

As all the fuss is about the procedure at the moment read this elsewhere (admittedly likely biased source)

Still ridiculous. Head of State because you were born into one particular family. pah

No idea. It's not like we would be changing to Sterling from something else, we already have Sterling. Ecuador use the US dollar and have done for 10-20 years. Did they have to get US permission for this? As for armed forces presumably there would be a negotiation about how the forces would be split? If not and England/Wales/NI (not UK as this refers to the Kingdoms of Scotland and England) kept them all I wouldn't be too fussed. We only need a fairly nominal Army anyway. Regardless, just as there is still an Irish Regiment and Irishmen that are in the UK army I'm sure there would continue to be a Scottish Regiment.

That's wrong, Labour have had a English majority in most elections they have won.

I remeber Aberdeen supports singing this at Tyncastle in the past. Were we commiting a hate crime? http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/Police-investigate-chanting-Forest-game/story-14389114-detail/story.html

Interesting, although it doesn't look like there has been a huge amount shifted into English waters but I suppose area doesn't necessarily correspond to Oil/Gas yeild directly.

Sorry that should have said "wouldn't be the easiest" It may be advisable in time but with all the other changes I wouldn't be sure that it would be the best thing to do from day one.

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Any more ridiculous than this guy wanting to be our next Head of State?

As we are now. We would have full control over all other financial leavers however which we don't at the moment. I'd be interested to know what other countries eg Czech/Slovaks, Baltic States and Yugoslavian states did when they became independent. I'd thinking establishing our own currency overnight wouldn't be the easiest thing to do but admit I know little on this.

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fae the afc facebook feed:

Presumably the debt would be a proportion of the UK debt either equivalent to our population or to the proportion of "assets" an Independent Scotland would secede from the UK. The issue is that the referendum won't really be on this. The SNP can suggest what debt they would hope for but it will then come down to lengthy negotiations so could be anything. Similarly the Military, Overseas Territories, Oil, Embassies etc Royal Family - SNP have said, just like Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Jamiaca etc we would retain the Monarchy. I would hope who ever gets voted in as a Government after Independence would quickly have a referendum on ditching the leaching cunts and become a Republic, but that is not currently anyones policy Military - Salmond seems to be tip toeing around this with all this devo-max bollocks. My understanding is that Scotland would retain a small standing army that would still be quite closely linked with the English/Welsh/NI army but we would obviously decide if we sent our soldiers into illegal wars or not. Trident would either be given to England/Wales/NI or allowed to stay in the short term for a big wad of cash Sterling/Euro - SNP have stated we would keep Sterling in the short to medium term, can't see we would do anything else. Ultimately it may be beneficial to be in the Euro or have our own currency like Norway but that decision could be a generation off given the current state of the euro. So Pound Sterling for the foreseeable. Embassies - I think the Scottish Govt already have "missions" in a number of EU countries and the US. We wouldn't need an Embassies in every country, few countries do. North Sea Oil - Would be a fight over this but is International Law not quite clear on which bit of water "should" belong to whom? At the moment I believe a proportion of the North Sea is under Scots Law rather than English Law. Presumably this corresponds to "Scottish Waters" so would be quite easy to work out. I'd always sat on the fence but am increasingly of the opinion why not. Financially I suspect some years as a Nation we'll be a bit better off, some years a bit worse off, but don't believe that we'll be a land of milk and honey but then equally the idea that Scotland uniquely in the World couldn't exist and would fall to pieces just by declaring Independence seems farcical. For me it's probably more about self determination and the ability to make decisions most other countries can. Also I am increasingly tired and resentful of living in a country that is seemingly run for the benefit of international financial institutions, while operating under the misapprehension that we have a divine right to tell the rest of the world what to do while sending our bloated armed forces around the world to enforce our will. The biggest worry for the establishment will not be who gets the oil but whether England/Wales/NI could hold onto their UN veto and seat on the Security Council and their EU veto and benefits. I couldn't give a fuck about that and would be more comfortable in a Scotland who operated within its level of influence and worked co-operatively with our European and Scandinavian neighbours rather than like a boorish anachronistic imperialistic monarchistic state