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Scottish Premiership - Kilmarnock v Aberdeen

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  1. Noticed that. Interesting.
  2. It could be Mackenzie - Gartenmann - Devlin in a back three, and Shinnie and Morris as wing backs, which would be peculiar but may work on account Motherwell are shite.
  3. Oh aye, I counted three maybe four "are you with me" in yesterday's press conference which I watched from start to finish because he's such a wonderful old man.
  4. Hold on, so you're essentially a broadcast journalist? Get this boy banned. We don't need his type around here, fishing for stories and trying to find dirt on us all. Aye but he's 75 and did a documentary 20 years ago, so it's all a good laugh isn't it? Like Craig Levein. But just wonderfully loveable.
  5. Motherwell fan at work labelled this as a relegation six-pointer and hard to argue with him based on the current form and league table. For Neil Warnock, his first week was a bit of a gimme as no-one expected anything from Ibrox, and no matter how badly we played v Bonnyrigg we were probably still going to navigate that tie. Now we're at the point where he's under pressure to deliver results. A draw does nothing for us, a defeat is unthinkable. Expect Gartenmann to start, but will it be for MacDonald or Jensen with the latter injured at the weekend? Not sure any of the 'fringe' players did much on Saturday to warrant a place. Similar starting line-up to Ibrox probably. Can see Hayes being back in. Dunno what to expect. I don't think we played well at Ibrox despite the platitudes, and we definitely didn't v Bonnyrigg.
  6. That is a fucking disgrace. The Rangers allegiance is fine, it's all a bit of fun, but fuck Morton. Get him out. Get him out of our club now.
  7. Lewis/Roos' alarming drops in ability - does Craig Sampson's coaching come into question? As for the game, Rangers pressed us in possession and we couldn't handle it, wanted too much time on the ball, and we coughed up possession. Yet we could have sneaked out of there with a draw.
  8. "I applied for the Hearts job, and they gave it to some bloke from bloody Latvia or something, so that was an insult". Found that pretty cringey to be honest. Maybe cos it was actually Lithuania and I used to live with a Lithuanian, and I reckon they can manage a football team just as well as the English.
  9. Fair play for answering all the points. I still don't agree it'a a safe appointment, I think it's a risk, even short term. And I'd rather we had our new manager in earlier. I was up for giving Robson a chance because he had been coaching for years, knew the club, and had watched closely all the mistakes the previous three managers had made. So I would say that did suggest he could turn it around, and short term he did. In hindsight, he should have been assistant to another manager. You're saying Cormack is taking a deeper look at the issues - that remains to be seen. As for the training/injures comment, that wasn't me, was Kowalski I think. Listen, he's got the job now. If it works out well and Aberdeen appoint a cracking manager for next season, then I've got it wrong. Hey, I got Goodwin and, eventually, Robson wrong. Good luck to the mad bastard.
  10. Again, what is a safe hire? What is "steadying the ship"? You say Robson needed his hand held and was inexperienced, but actually his interim spell was a success. So why is Warnock as interim so crucial? Well done on missing my point. I couldn't give a fuck if he goes to bed wearing Rangers pyjamas. Someone - was either you or another poster - said that he would "stick it" to the Old Firm. What is that exactly? And what makes you think he's the man to stick it to them? It's a risky and bizarre appointment, and is a cop out from the club because the only way they need four months to find a new manager, less than a year after they were supposed to begin a new manager search, would be if they were totally clueless. Hiring Warnock is them throwing a bone to distract the dog.
  11. But so does any interim manager. And how much time do we really need to find a new boss? Do we really need four months? He has done plenty of interviews openly saying so. He calls himself "A Rangers man". He'll likely walk out to a standing ovation at Ibrox on Tuesday. Now I don't necessarily think that will affect his ability to manage Aberdeen, but let's not begin with this myth that he will stand up to the Old Firm in a way previous bosses couldn't.
  12. Here's Mark McGhee doing the same thing. We lost 3-1.
  13. Our previous managers were capable of a "rocket up the backside". Scott Brown and Graeme Shinnie have been in that dressing room. Our issues I don't think are down to a lack of work rate. Tactically is where we've failed. As for "sticking it" to Rangers and Celtic. First of all, he adores the pair of them. Secondly, what actually is sticking it to them? Is it attacking football? That's not generally Warnock, I'd be surprised if he doesn't go defensive on Tuesday. Is it getting fired in? He'll soon learn that you can't get away with that v the Old Firm in Glasgow. Will he be outspoken and call out decisions? Probably. But so are Derek Adams, Craig Levein, even Derek McInnes. What difference does it make? I actually think it's a big risk we're taking. The whole "safe pair of hands" line people have been trotting out, what does that even mean? Has he never been relegated before? Has his side never been on the end of a scudding? Think a lot of people are being bought in by the name and the celebrity. I've yet to see a good reason as to why Warnock stands out as the right choice other than wishy washy platitudes like "experienced" and regular showings of a documentary he did 20 years ago.
  14. I'm going to this one. My mate has bought two random Germans he met on holiday tickets and posted them to me so I can meet them before the game. Kinda feel I should offer my condolences as I hand the tickets over. They're Bayern Munich fans so who knows what they'll make of us. It looks increasingly like it'll be Neil Warnock in charge next week so it's just a case of whether he wants to be in the dugout that early or not. I expect that every little thing Warnock does will be amplified, good or bad. Not sure I can be arsed with the circus but here we go. As for the game - Rangers aren't that good and we're not that bad. Not impossible to get something. But I have no idea how it's going to go.
  15. If he comes in and gets some results like Robson did, and the media begin their campaign to get him the job permanently, do we bow to pressure and do just that? That doesn't strike me as sticking to this club philosophy we're supposed to have. Or is Warnock part of selecting the next manager? Because the Brexit voting Neil "I couldn't even get the job ahead of a Latvian (sic), if I can't get the job ahead of a Latvian what chance have I got" Warnock isn't the type of guy I want recommending the next boss to our board. He's an odd choice. I fear he's the wrong choice. And I really don't see why we need another long-term interim. But, I can't help but be intrigued.
  16. I am. Him & Lennon not being considered. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68191542
  17. I don't actually see much evidence of Neil Lennon going into struggling clubs and turning them around. Inherited good Celtic sides and a Hibs team that had just won the Scottish Cup and had a right good squad already. Sacked in Cyprus for poor results. Ultimately left Hibs in eighth. His final season at Celtic was a big failure. If anything, his track record is making good teams considerably worse. This whole "he's a winner, won't take any shit in the dressing room". So was Barry Robson, so was Jim Goodwin, and so was Scott Brown as part of Glass' team.
  18. Aye Jason Kerr followed Aberdeen on Instagram, then unfollowed them. That's how you know transfers aren't happening these days. Think it's because what they offered is essentially what we'll get in summer anyway as we'll be due a development fee. Don't take it out on the BBC. Plus I know the fella who takes pride and joy in that ins and outs article, updating it on his days off. We're all proud of him. And he's so keen he can't even be arsed getting himself up here for tomorrow's game. It honestly wouldn't surprise me if they want the next appointment to be shite so they can come out and say we should have just stuck with Robson (which, without fan pressure, they would have).
  19. Even though we haven't signed anyone (Philips apart) I think it's a good window with Miovski, Duk, Barron and Shinnie all staying. (Shinnie wasn't linked anywhere but I still worry). Kilmarnock (our biggest rivals now for fourth - that's our season now) have signed Van Veen, but he's no Miovski. Get a good manager in and we'll... it's gonna be Jack Ross isn't it?
  20. Had Robson stayed, I was convinced we would not lose, as was sure he would get a result to convince the board to stick with him. Now he's gone I'm actually less confident
  21. We're not one of the four clubs looking at Van Veen. Hearts, Motherwell, St Mirren and Kilmarnock were all after him. Looks like one of the latter two most likely to get him.
  22. Think you've been bought in by that Agent Alba joker, either directly or indirectly. Forrest is Cardiff bound I'm sure.
  23. Transfer deadline is 23:30 GMT tonight. It wasn't wrong, Rico admits he misread it. BBC 2-0 BigAl/Rico.
  24. Jimmy Thelin. Have been reading a few articles on him and watched some Elfsborg highlights. What intrigues me is his way of playing is kinda what Barry Robson was trying to do at times, but Thelin does it much more effectively. He plays a fast-paced direct style of football, and even against smaller teams Elfsborg often have fewer than 50% possession. But it's all about high pressing, winning the ball in the opposition half, and if they win it in their own half then it's often a long ball to get them up the pitch quickly. But the formation is more of a 4-2-3-1 with more width, the defensive line high up, and often the advanced midfielder stays up to form a front two when they're defending so they have two men to aim for. It almost like Thelin has a solution to a few things Robson was doing wrong in his own quest to make that style work at Aberdeen. That type of football isn't everyone's cup of tea, but I think back to what was, for me, the high point of Robson's reign and possibly the game that landed him the job permanently. Against Hearts at home in April we played at a pace Hearts couldn't live with, pressed their midfield, and forced them into errors. We turned them over 3-0 and could have won by more. And yet, we had just 38% possession that day. But a lot of Hearts passes were among their back line. We had 47% accuracy with long balls (compared to hearts 32%). We had a 60% success rate with passes into the final third (Hearts 45%). I thought that would be how we'd always be under Robson but it then became a long ball shambles after that. I dunno if Aberdeen just fluked it that day v Hearts. If Thelin can recreate it though then I'm all for him. We just need to go and poach the manager who finished second in the Swedish top flight last season...
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