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He's probably too young to be loaned out, as mad as that sounds. Basically, the reason Liverpool want him is because they believe their academy/coaches etc will make Ramsay a better player than he would be playing the next three years at Aberdeen. They don't want Scottish players at 21 unless they're quite clearly exceptional, they want teenagers that have potential. I can't say I'm an expert on all the players Liverpool loaned out this season, but they tend to be in the 20-22 age bracket, and that's because they're past the potential stage and now they need first team football to see if they've got what it takes to make it at Liverpool, or at least impress enough that the club they're on loan to might want to buy them. So I reckon Ramsay will likely disappear for 2/3 years if he goes there.

Thought McCrorie was good at RB. Besuijen decent too, love his fearlessness in taking players on. A lot of times we'd knock it about well then Ferguson would get on the ball and just hoof it at goal. For the good he does, he often holds us back by playing too much as an individual rather than looking to see if a team-mate is a better option. Gallagher was excellent in defence, bailed us out a few times. Still look at least three players short of being a good side though.

And Bruce Anderson will one day play for Scotland. Mark my words. Though to be fair Kevin Nisbet got capped and he's bang average, and we have few options up front, so it's maybe not that high a bar he needs to reach.

Luke Turner? So we've sent him out on loan, he's won a cup, could still win the league (edit: they lost it by one point to Linfield last weekend), has their fans raving about him & potentially might win POTY, and we decide he hasn't done enough!!?? Surely he's said he's homesick or something because otherwise what exactly where we expecting him to do on his loan spell - win the Nobel peace prize, agree a brexit trade deal, and reverse global warming?

Keeps saying I need to subscribe, who are the three young players? Yes.

4 8 11 15 22 40 are my lottery numbers for this evening.

Would be good to think Luke Turner - the defender we have out on loan at Cliftonville - might get his chance. The fans there absolutely love him. A mate over there who I hadn't spoke to for decades messaged me just to rave about him. https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/cliftonville-teenager-luke-turner-been-23188287.amp Edit: He's also left footed.

I watched the Dundee-St Johnstone game on Saturday. Dundee scored a good opening goal but after that their sole threat was through Charlie Adam's set pieces and they didn't have a single shot on target the rest of the game. I'd like to think we'll have learned that lesson from the 2-2 and be working on defending set pieces this week. To be fair to Dundee, they defended well against St Johnstone, didn't really stop the ball coming into the box but won their headers and threw their bodies on the line. Basically, the type of defence we hate playing against at the minute. Has the look of a 1-0 win, Lewis Ferguson penalty about it, not pretty but get the points.

I think that's unfair on Milne and overly generous to Cormack. I'm fairly sure Milne, if offered the beach and link-up with ACC, would have been just as open to it as Cormack. Likewise, without the beach, there wasn't many, if any, options on the table for Milne. I didn't hear Cormack coming up with any other alternatives to Kingsford before ACC announced the beach proposal. And if Cormack has canned Kingsford, then what's his plan B should a business case conclude the beach isn't realistic? If he builds a 16,000 capacity stadium so he can put the prices up as soon as he believes it'll be a sell-out (like he did with Breidabkik) then he'll be nothing but pure evil.

Firstly, everyone appears to be proposing a stadium in the city centre except the Lib Dems, so as long as they don't win plans for this will likely continue. And Aberdeen actually have the council in a good position now as they're all coming to the realisation moving the club out of the city centre makes no sense at all. But you do make a good point about whether it's feasible. We were told for years it would cost an extra £6m to build there (perhaps factored into this extra £30m cost) and that the pitch would constantly suffer from drainage problems because it's too close to the sea. None of these things appear to be bothering anyone. Is the Hilton hotel site a viable alternative site? Surely roads could be redirected to increase the footprint if needed.

Just to throw in a wee grenade here. Aiden McGeady? Out of contract in summer. Has just turned 36, hasn't played since November due to injury, but may still have a wee trick in him. From what I've heard wages wouldn't be an issue. Might be decent squad filler? I'll leave it with yous.

Cormack saying the new stadium will now cost £75m. If the council don't put any money towards it I really don't see any way Aberdeen raise that money. He also pretty much said Kingsford is dead. Said it was "absolutely critical" Aberdeen stay at the beach, while also nodding in agreement when Graham Hunter said Kingsford would have led to a cut in attendances.

Cormack said one of the "top candidates" they talked with was offered a role at a club in England in the middle of the interview. He then said "another group", at which point he kinda stuttered as if he realised he was saying something he shouldn't, before mumbling they pulled out due to other reasons. The Cowley brothers were rumoured to have been interviewed, or at least Darren was. Darren Cowley became Portsmouth manager four days before Glass was announced as Aberdeen boss. I think he would have been a really interesting appointment. I'm guessing, if the above is true, he figured Portsmouth in League One was a more appealing prospect than Aberdeen, or he wasn't confident he was getting the Aberdeen job and Pompey wouldn't wait for an answer. Not being an avid fan of League One I've no idea how he's doing other than they're 9th, 10 points off a top 6 spot (play-off). But to be fair there's a lot of big clubs above them in that league - Wigan (who are first) for example have Graeme Shinnie, Jamie McGrath, Jason Kerr and Jamie McLean who would all walk into our first XI. They also have the legend that is Josh Magennis. Also, a quick Google check finds he has got the fourth highest win percentage of any Portsmouth manager and is "two transfer windows into a three transfer window plan". What might have been...

https://www.afc.co.uk/2022/04/18/new-stadium-let-us-know-your-views/

Update (even though nobody wanted one), listened to the latest ABZ & red tinted episodes, both were excellent. Just a shame the football team they were talking about isn't.

Still not sure you've disproved it's "rare" with that.

Looks like Kennedy will be staying going by Goodwin's comments. I've seen that little of him I can't really say if he could still potentially be a good player for us or not. Goodwin used to play a three-man defence at St Mirren (although he had more success when he switched it to a back four) and I wonder if he'll do it next season once he brings in more defenders. It would actually suit Gallagher who tends to play better in a three. You could see Goodwin pinpointing Kennedy & Hayes as wing backs. Vladky Dunne Gallagher Bates Kennedy McCrorie Barron Hayes Vicente Ibrahimovic Watkins There's the team to play Cove Rangers in the Granite City derby in the opening League Cup fixture.

Happy to be proved wrong on this one as it only backs up my original point that this new manager bounce thing is rare.

I'd say Aitken's arrival is the only time we've ever had that.

I think it's incredibly simplistic to expect a new manager comes in and makes an instinct impact. There are very few examples of that happening. Yeh, and he'll do that in summer. Out of interest, what would your team have been against Ross County? I'm not defending both. I'm pointing out Ferguson has played well under Goodwin, but I also think it's obvious both don't want to be here. No you don't because you still think he's one of our better attacking players. He's not. Give Vicente a run of games. Try and get Watkins fit. Not playing a boy who should be nowhere near the club next season if we have any ambitions at all. Right, and in 30 years, are you telling me you've got the best out of every player, and if/when you haven't because that player hasn't been putting the work in, have you blamed yourself? And did you also only need a few weeks and games to improve everyone?

Who in your opinion isn't working hard enough, and who should they all be replaced with? Goodwin has chucked JET. He'll move on more in summer. But he's not going to come in and play the reserves when he's trying to make the top six in order to make a point. So if a player doesn't work hard enough you blame the manager? In these last five games, yeh maybe Ruth gets his chance. Very few managers would be dropping a 16-goal striker for someone untested in big games. You said that Goodwin wasn't capable of getting the best out of players. Yet Ferguson has played well under Goodwin, and some on this board put it down to him switching McCrorie into midfield. Doesn't mean I think he was terrific v County. You seem to have this football manager lark sorted. Not sure the "if you have a poor defence, just press higher and it'll be fine" really works though when the goals you're conceding recently are from set pieces. Mate, Ojo is not good enough for Aberdeen. Trying to talk him up by comparing him to three players, two of which have had bad injuries, is bizarre. Literally saying his strength is that he's fit. That's like me claiming that since Maradona died I've been better at football than him.

If you think one of the problems is players not working hard enough, that's on the players. If having Scott Brown in as captain and coach can't motivate them to work hard enough, then I'm not sure anything can. Let's look at those seven games. 1-1 Motherwell: Goodwin in the door 15 minutes, I don't think he even picked the team. The others 1-1 Dundee Utd 0-2 Hearts 0-1 Rangers 3-1 Hibs 2-2 Dundee 0-1 Ross County Hearts/Rangers we were badly hit by injuries (though granted still expected better performance v Hearts). A competent defence we probably beat Dundee. Cheap penalties conceded v United & County. There's a common denominator in that the defence (and goalkeeper) haven't been good enough all season. It's not as simple as "we're going to work on defending this week" and expecting a clean sheet in response. A few weeks ago people were raving about Ferguson's performance v Hibernian. Barron has been playing well. McCrorie has had good games. Vicente too. All under Goodwin. Ojo is not good enough for Aberdeen. He did not impress earlier in the season, he just looked at times semi competent. For most of the season he's been like he has in his entire time at Aberdeen. He should be the first name gone in summer. These things have been tried, and generally were a failure. None of them are defenders. You're essentially suggesting square pegs in round holes. Obviously top six was the aim but I think it's harsh to lay the blame at Goodwin for us finishing there. I look back at McInnes taking over. Aberdeen were in the bottom six. He had five games left of that season and only won one of them, despite them all being against bottom six sides. But the next season, with a full pre-season and some key signings, we had a very good first season under him. Goodwin has had seven games, three with heavy injuries away to Motherwell, Hearts & Rangers. In the four that were more winnable, he's won one, drawn two and lost one. Disappointing, aye, especially since we should have beat Dundee which would have meant we'd only have needed a point v County. Fine margins. But, I'll judge him next season.

Well I didn't want Glass punted. Felt the squad needed improved rather than the manager changed. Since he's gone we've also lost Brown, who was one of our better players, and others (Ramirez, Ferguson) appear to be more concerned with their next move. But again, when you say get the best out of them, what are you expecting? That they're suddenly going to try harder, run faster, pass the ball better? You can develop players over time and integrate them into your system, but not in seven games. Pep Guardiola is on record today in an interview as saying if he had managed Bielsa's Leeds side he wouldn't have got those group of players promoted. Ojo has I think played right-back in all games under Goodwin, to replace Ramsay who hasn't been fit, which answers your first two points. Ramirez looks uninterested. I'm not saying you're wrong to criticise him. However, what are your criticisms of him? "Not getting the best out of players" is a bit vague. With Glass, there were obvious things he needed to change, like overplaying Brown and having him deployed almost as a box to box midfielder six years after he was capable of doing it, playing McCrore in defence, playing Ojo. But with Goodwin I'm not sure any other manager does much different than him in the short time he's had, especially since he isn't actually repeating many of the mistakes Glass did make.

Your argument is all over the place. You're essentially saying judge him summer, but you're not, you're judging him now. When you say "should be getting more out of the players", how should he? If the players aren't good enough, they're not good enough. There's a limit to what he can actually do for them - it's easy to say he should be coaching them better - but he's not teaching kids how to play football, they've all been playing it for years, they should know the basics of passing, shooting, tackling, marking, etc. They're probably doing many of the same coaching drills the top clubs are doing. But he's not going to come in and eradicate all the mistakes players have been making all season within seven games, and I don't think he's going to make them all better players in that time either.

Unless I'm mistaken, you & wee toon red appear to have given him the red card already.