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Cormack saying the new stadium will now cost £75m. If the council don't put any money towards it I really don't see any way Aberdeen raise that money. He also pretty much said Kingsford is dead. Said it was "absolutely critical" Aberdeen stay at the beach, while also nodding in agreement when Graham Hunter said Kingsford would have led to a cut in attendances.

Cormack said one of the "top candidates" they talked with was offered a role at a club in England in the middle of the interview. He then said "another group", at which point he kinda stuttered as if he realised he was saying something he shouldn't, before mumbling they pulled out due to other reasons. The Cowley brothers were rumoured to have been interviewed, or at least Darren was. Darren Cowley became Portsmouth manager four days before Glass was announced as Aberdeen boss. I think he would have been a really interesting appointment. I'm guessing, if the above is true, he figured Portsmouth in League One was a more appealing prospect than Aberdeen, or he wasn't confident he was getting the Aberdeen job and Pompey wouldn't wait for an answer. Not being an avid fan of League One I've no idea how he's doing other than they're 9th, 10 points off a top 6 spot (play-off). But to be fair there's a lot of big clubs above them in that league - Wigan (who are first) for example have Graeme Shinnie, Jamie McGrath, Jason Kerr and Jamie McLean who would all walk into our first XI. They also have the legend that is Josh Magennis. Also, a quick Google check finds he has got the fourth highest win percentage of any Portsmouth manager and is "two transfer windows into a three transfer window plan". What might have been...

https://www.afc.co.uk/2022/04/18/new-stadium-let-us-know-your-views/

Update (even though nobody wanted one), listened to the latest ABZ & red tinted episodes, both were excellent. Just a shame the football team they were talking about isn't.

Still not sure you've disproved it's "rare" with that.

Looks like Kennedy will be staying going by Goodwin's comments. I've seen that little of him I can't really say if he could still potentially be a good player for us or not. Goodwin used to play a three-man defence at St Mirren (although he had more success when he switched it to a back four) and I wonder if he'll do it next season once he brings in more defenders. It would actually suit Gallagher who tends to play better in a three. You could see Goodwin pinpointing Kennedy & Hayes as wing backs. Vladky Dunne Gallagher Bates Kennedy McCrorie Barron Hayes Vicente Ibrahimovic Watkins There's the team to play Cove Rangers in the Granite City derby in the opening League Cup fixture.

Happy to be proved wrong on this one as it only backs up my original point that this new manager bounce thing is rare.

I'd say Aitken's arrival is the only time we've ever had that.

I think it's incredibly simplistic to expect a new manager comes in and makes an instinct impact. There are very few examples of that happening. Yeh, and he'll do that in summer. Out of interest, what would your team have been against Ross County? I'm not defending both. I'm pointing out Ferguson has played well under Goodwin, but I also think it's obvious both don't want to be here. No you don't because you still think he's one of our better attacking players. He's not. Give Vicente a run of games. Try and get Watkins fit. Not playing a boy who should be nowhere near the club next season if we have any ambitions at all. Right, and in 30 years, are you telling me you've got the best out of every player, and if/when you haven't because that player hasn't been putting the work in, have you blamed yourself? And did you also only need a few weeks and games to improve everyone?

Who in your opinion isn't working hard enough, and who should they all be replaced with? Goodwin has chucked JET. He'll move on more in summer. But he's not going to come in and play the reserves when he's trying to make the top six in order to make a point. So if a player doesn't work hard enough you blame the manager? In these last five games, yeh maybe Ruth gets his chance. Very few managers would be dropping a 16-goal striker for someone untested in big games. You said that Goodwin wasn't capable of getting the best out of players. Yet Ferguson has played well under Goodwin, and some on this board put it down to him switching McCrorie into midfield. Doesn't mean I think he was terrific v County. You seem to have this football manager lark sorted. Not sure the "if you have a poor defence, just press higher and it'll be fine" really works though when the goals you're conceding recently are from set pieces. Mate, Ojo is not good enough for Aberdeen. Trying to talk him up by comparing him to three players, two of which have had bad injuries, is bizarre. Literally saying his strength is that he's fit. That's like me claiming that since Maradona died I've been better at football than him.

If you think one of the problems is players not working hard enough, that's on the players. If having Scott Brown in as captain and coach can't motivate them to work hard enough, then I'm not sure anything can. Let's look at those seven games. 1-1 Motherwell: Goodwin in the door 15 minutes, I don't think he even picked the team. The others 1-1 Dundee Utd 0-2 Hearts 0-1 Rangers 3-1 Hibs 2-2 Dundee 0-1 Ross County Hearts/Rangers we were badly hit by injuries (though granted still expected better performance v Hearts). A competent defence we probably beat Dundee. Cheap penalties conceded v United & County. There's a common denominator in that the defence (and goalkeeper) haven't been good enough all season. It's not as simple as "we're going to work on defending this week" and expecting a clean sheet in response. A few weeks ago people were raving about Ferguson's performance v Hibernian. Barron has been playing well. McCrorie has had good games. Vicente too. All under Goodwin. Ojo is not good enough for Aberdeen. He did not impress earlier in the season, he just looked at times semi competent. For most of the season he's been like he has in his entire time at Aberdeen. He should be the first name gone in summer. These things have been tried, and generally were a failure. None of them are defenders. You're essentially suggesting square pegs in round holes. Obviously top six was the aim but I think it's harsh to lay the blame at Goodwin for us finishing there. I look back at McInnes taking over. Aberdeen were in the bottom six. He had five games left of that season and only won one of them, despite them all being against bottom six sides. But the next season, with a full pre-season and some key signings, we had a very good first season under him. Goodwin has had seven games, three with heavy injuries away to Motherwell, Hearts & Rangers. In the four that were more winnable, he's won one, drawn two and lost one. Disappointing, aye, especially since we should have beat Dundee which would have meant we'd only have needed a point v County. Fine margins. But, I'll judge him next season.

Well I didn't want Glass punted. Felt the squad needed improved rather than the manager changed. Since he's gone we've also lost Brown, who was one of our better players, and others (Ramirez, Ferguson) appear to be more concerned with their next move. But again, when you say get the best out of them, what are you expecting? That they're suddenly going to try harder, run faster, pass the ball better? You can develop players over time and integrate them into your system, but not in seven games. Pep Guardiola is on record today in an interview as saying if he had managed Bielsa's Leeds side he wouldn't have got those group of players promoted. Ojo has I think played right-back in all games under Goodwin, to replace Ramsay who hasn't been fit, which answers your first two points. Ramirez looks uninterested. I'm not saying you're wrong to criticise him. However, what are your criticisms of him? "Not getting the best out of players" is a bit vague. With Glass, there were obvious things he needed to change, like overplaying Brown and having him deployed almost as a box to box midfielder six years after he was capable of doing it, playing McCrore in defence, playing Ojo. But with Goodwin I'm not sure any other manager does much different than him in the short time he's had, especially since he isn't actually repeating many of the mistakes Glass did make.

Your argument is all over the place. You're essentially saying judge him summer, but you're not, you're judging him now. When you say "should be getting more out of the players", how should he? If the players aren't good enough, they're not good enough. There's a limit to what he can actually do for them - it's easy to say he should be coaching them better - but he's not teaching kids how to play football, they've all been playing it for years, they should know the basics of passing, shooting, tackling, marking, etc. They're probably doing many of the same coaching drills the top clubs are doing. But he's not going to come in and eradicate all the mistakes players have been making all season within seven games, and I don't think he's going to make them all better players in that time either.

Unless I'm mistaken, you & wee toon red appear to have given him the red card already.

Does everyone remember when Ange Postecoglou was being written off as a dud and the Celtic fans wanted him out? That was after a transfer window, a pre-season, and 17 games under his belt. Win on Sunday and he'll be odds on to deliver a domestic treble. But yeh let's give up on Goodwin after seven games.

St Johnstone just got spanked 7-0 off Celtic. Let's not try to convince ourselves they can win two and draw one of their final five games, with Aberdeen losing all five. We're not great, but we're not that bad.

Sky have only shown two games from Pittodrie all season. That said, if relegation is sorted by the final Saturday they may well show Aberdeen-Saints since they'll have the Goodwin angle and Aberdeen are the biggest club in the bottom six so you imagine will bring in the biggest audience.

He has changed tactics though. We're no longer playing McCrorie in defence and trying to play it out from the back. We're a lot more direct going forward. We're no longer building the team around a 36-year-old Scott Brown. And, Saturday apart because he lacked options and Ramsay wasn't quite fit, Ojo hasn't really been in the team so we've been playing with 11 players instead of 10. You're saying blood new guys - to be fair, he's showing a lot of faith in Connor Barron. Add in Ramsay, Mackenzie and Vicente and that's four young players. We had big games to try and get into the top six, the time to blood more youngsters is probably now in these five dead rubbers (no, we're not going to get relegated, everyone wise up). I think to say performances haven't changed since Glass is more a reflection on the players. I think just six to seven of our current team will be first choice next season - Ramsay, Mackenzie, Hayes, McCrorie, Barron, Watkins, Vicente. Maybe Bates as potentially there's still a player there. I'd like to think he'll keep Ramirez and maybe a move won't materialise.

Of course it's the same players, he hasn't had a transfer window yet. Watkins surely isn't fit enough to play 90 minutes yet.

I've only listened to Red Tinted Glasses once. Should probably give it a go to see fit like. ABZ, I listened to bits of it and it seems quite good, but what puts me off is how long many of the episodes are. They seem to be over two hours long on average. I don't have two hours to listen to a podcast. Here We Go - it's usually the one I listen to (and have even been on it a few times mumbling gibberish). Graham Spiers regularly hosts Aberdeen podcasts on his Patreon. Listened to a few and they were alright, but I cancelled my subscription when he gave Roger Mitchell airtime. Yes I'm that petty.

Goodwin confirming Devlin will be away in summer.

The reason he was never a defender was because he was a very good midfielder! He & McCrorie should have swapped places at the start of the season and I will argue this until the end of time. I do agree with this. Although I side with the club on the decision not to offer Considine a longer deal, the statement is an embarrassment. Goodwin needs to learn that it's not the way things are done in Aberdeen and he shouldn't have put his name anywhere near it, whether it was his idea for the statement or someone else. On Goodwin, I think there's a bit of respect at the way he has come in and showed he's the boss, but I wonder if he's going a bit too far. Punting Brown without really considering it, throwing Considine out to dry in that statement - a guy who has given most of his life to the club and is a fans favourite. I dunno if there is a "this is what Alex Ferguson would have done" sort of thing going on in his head, but it's a bit bull in a China shop at the moment.

I would say his performances last season and this season pre-injury suggested he was on the wane. These silly goals we've been losing recently, we were losing plenty of them with Considine in the side as well. Him being better than Bates suggests that a one-year deal while a young guy beds in is ideal, but not a two-year deal on the wages he wanted. As for Brown - no-one, including Andrew Considine's wife and children, love him as much as I do. But Scott Brown at 36 is a better player than Andrew Considine at 35, even in defence.

His agent would have been at the meeting. I think it's more that he or his agent may have leaked the news to the media, which is what the club statement appears to suggest. Also, you being laid off is completely different from him turning down a six-figure salary and a future coaching role.

https://www.afc.co.uk/2022/04/06/andy-considine-update/ Goodwin here saying Considine was offered a six-figure sum and a future coaching role, he wanted another 50% in wages and a two-year deal. Club have made the right move in my opinion. In response to Rico's post, his previous performances are irrelevant. It's about what he can offer for the next 12-24 months. You can't honestly argue we can't get younger and better out there.