BobbyBiscuit

Aye, we realised that some time ago.

That word makes the rest of your sentence wrong. The most damning but ultimately correct sentence in this thread and quite possibly AFC's history. Stewart Milne is a succesful businessman. He knows a succesful business. He looks at AFC now and what does he see? A small band of rabid supporters willing to slate the club at every turn. A bigger band of supporters who turn up at Pittodrie and meekly trudge out of the stadium every second week muttering under their breath about the abysmal side they see before them. And an even bigger support so fucked off with his tenure that they stopped going some time ago because they're not stupid... it was never going to be good while Milne was in charge. He could ship money to the cause but refuses to, instead letting his managers carry the burden of his mistakes, while his tightness and his short sightedness (more than anything else) kill every manager he has appointed and yet he seems to not realise what he can do to redress the situation... For a supposed clever man he's seemingly fuckin stupid. Or maybe, just doesn't care. I now don't think he cares, and I don't think he's cared for quite some time. He fulfills the role, that's it. There are no longer baying hoardes outside of Pittodrie after a bad result. that in itself is a result for Milne. He can't be doing with that pish. Far better to let them skulk away from the club than have them challenge the club head on. And that's the biggest reason the club is dying. People are walking away because there is no hope in the club, and it's the club who have told us that in one way or another. Milne has the team and the support he has always deserved. And possibly always wanted.

online now: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/8656323.stm

I didn't hear it but he supposedly walked out of an interview after being questionned if his job is safe. He then returned to launch a volley of abuse at the reporter. Man feeling under pressure..??

I presume you are talking about the manager who had said three months previously to being sacked that he felt he had taken us as far as he could? Absolute utter shite. Complete fucking bollocks. Neither have done a thing to have us playing attractive football or challenging for a trophy? You couldn't have seen Miller's team then which had four strikers banging goals in all season, a season we finished second in every domestic competition. Shame you missed that season, we won nothing but we were competing and were the best footballing side in the country. But maybe it doesn't fit with your agenda to recall that... I agree, it isn't McGhee, but in the poorest group of players you've seen, you want to guarantee one of the least talented a game every week because he puts a shift in? All credit to Young for being an honest pro, but if that's the best we can say for him I wouldn't want to be planning next season around him.

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Interesting take on Wednesday's game. The do-good attitude of Barca is rather nauseating I have to say

2-1 Diet Huns, in injury time

Yeah it's a couple of months old. I'm pretty sure that's right, hundreds of Dons fans locked out. Thankfully my old man used to get us in to the ground for 2.15 just to shut me up and so I could see them warm up! Seem to remember his home debut was 0-0 though, either v Dunfermline or Motherwell, can't remember which. The one piece of utter genius that I always think just sums up Charlie Nicholas was his control, turn and pass on the half way line at Hampden in the League Cup Final of 88 to put Jazzer through at 2-2. The fact Bett missed was criminal, the set up was utterly genius. Had he stayed for one more year with us he'd have won the lot with us and changed the future of Scottish Football forever, possibly. What a wonderful player and one of the biggest superstars to ever play for us and yet he never acted like it on the pitch. Seeing him go through the motions in a shite Celtic side when he was only 28/29 when he could have been winning the league with us was hard to take. He went from a great player in a great side to a great player in a terrible side and he never, ever looked comfortable again in his career. That was a travesty for both us and him.

http://www.afc.co.uk/articles/20100213/former-players-interview-_2260392_1965339 Not letting me copy and paste it and it's a lengthy article anyway... but well, well worth a read. Obviously holds us in high regard as well as his peers from a very good side Dons side. Also nice to see Stevie Gray get a mention even if it was more directed towards his off-field activities! Charlie was always a favourite of mine, absolutely brilliant player for us. Remember reading the news in The Herald, I was only 8 at the time and it remains the most excited (not to mention surprised) i've ever been about a Dons signing and he didn't let us down. His last minute winner v the Huns at the Merkland Road end will live with me til the day I die.

As I said in the other thread, having a league set up where 8 clubs play 2 more matches than the 6 others is just fucking farcical. The people who "run" the game can all fuck right off. One spasticated idea after another with that shower. They're supposed to be there for the good of the game, to be accomplished strategists, planners etc. Accomplished morons more like.

The bit in bold is an absolute farce. Teams in the same league as each other playing 2 more matches than others in the league? Just as well Scottish Football isn't seen as a total joke, eh?

I want to know why they got a girl to model their new kit and not one of their big name players...

If Jamie Carragher makes up part of the spine of your team you're asking for trouble. Considering the prick signed about 293 defenders in five years and not one was better than "Carra" it suggests he's not got much of a clue. Still, he fits in with the victim mentality so the Scousers love him. Still.

It was a cracker, will try to find a pic of it.

It was a good game. Not as good as Inter v Barca first leg though

Liverpool 2-1 Atl. Madrid in extra time, Forlan with the goal :-)

you're just jealous of that shirt he's wearing tonight...

Good on them. Have to say though European Football is shit these days though!

The short answer is don't. No matter what level of football you watch you get good games and bad. That's the game and is surely one of the reasons we all love it, it can be such an unpredictable game so much of the time. Perhaps another reason it seems worse these days is how much it's hyped up by Sky and other media outlets. It's something I never quite understand with people though; that they seem to be annoyed (i'm not saying you are, by the way) that the EPL isn't as good as Sky say it is etc... who lets Sky make their mind up for them? Take the game as you see it, that's all it comes down to really. "Arsenal are quite shit"... relatively shit. Relative to United, Chelsea and Barca, perhaps. They'd rip most teams in Europe to shreds. If people genuinely think the only good teams in the continent are those three then I'm afraid that's more a sign of Sky and it's propaganda than anything Richard Keys and Andy Gray can ever peddle.

None of that was actually aimed at you, i was using your quote as it contained the stat I wanted to talk about. Think that's a bit harsh, Barca are a very, very good team and although United were shit in the final last year against them, the previous year United put them out at the semi final stage using similar tactics in the first leg as Mourinho and Inter last night. As I said, they're a very, very good team, but there's more than one way to play - and win - a game of football. Seems some people (not talking about anyone here) who watch teh game, and I include the media in that too, don't appreciate that. In utterly stereotypical fashion, I'm sure the Italians will have loved that performance last night though.

Of course, I wasn't having a go at folk saying it was a boring game, far from it. It's more the people who think they're taking some sort of football purist's moral high ground when they suggest it is a travesty that such a good footballing team have been knocked out of the tournament, showing themselves as misunderstanding the game on so many different levels at the same time.

1-0 Hamburg, wonderful free kick by Gordan Petric

Heard this repeated today by several colleagues of mine going on about the travesty that Barcelona aren't in the final. In all honesty, if you have so much of the ball to complete that many passes as well as a man advantage for more than half the game and you still can't win by the required amount, then you don't deserve to be in the final and Barca don't. This nauseating bollocks surrounding a very, very good side is just going too far now. People can disparage Inter all they like (and I'm sure they'll continue to do so) but when are people going to realise that defending is as much an artform within the game as attacking play? The two best players last night for my money were Lucio and Cambiasso. The game needs players like that, I'd personally give my right nut to have two players like that at Pittodrie.