BobbyBiscuit

that meeting at the Beach Ballroom was definitely during Paterson's reign, as Miller made one or two comments about Steve Paterson himself. This was also the meeting where some decided that they'd walk out of the upcoming match v Dundee I think it was.

Turkeys voting for Christmas

Taken from the Daily Retard so may be utter bollocks, but I certainly hope not.

That's why we won. Console yourself with that.

Yeah, and after previous publications (including Stand Free) i told the club it was 2-1 and was actually ridiculed for saying so. But there you go...

Good to see Kevin has finally accepted it was Aberdeen 2 Dundee United 1 that day....

LOLZ. They were also supposedly interested in "£10m Artur Boruc" after Euro 2008 but Sellick decided not to sell because they thought they'd get more "in a year or two's time"... LOLZ x 2.

Good luck to him if true. Hope the jitters he got when he went down to Sunderland don't follow him. He's played very, very well recently.

Or a time machine and go back and get Seaman, Dixon, Bould, Adams, Winterarse, Vieira and Petit in their prime. I'm going to go out on a limb here, and I've thought this for sometime, but I don't think Wenger has much of a clue when it comes to defending and in particular signing defensive players. I know that sounds ridiculous but when you look at the team he inherited, when he had a fair chunk of his success, he still had the back five (with that tit Keown instead of Bould perhaps) listed above. He may well have signed players who are individually good and strong, but he has never placed enough emphasis on getting the right guys in. Fergie had a blind spot with keepers (or was very unlucky with some) after Schmeichal, but he knows the importance of defence - huge money spent on Ferdinand, Stam and a brilliant buy in Vidic. One of Mourinho's first moves was for Carvalho, fantastic centre half. Cech I believe was bought by Ranieri before he left, but even still, which keeper would you pick out of van der Sar, Cech or Jens Lehmann? In my book, Lehmann is way short of the other two. Wenger thought Senderos was a player and it took him seasons to realise what everyone else could see. I'm sure people could chuck stats at me and say "yeah, but his team have the best defensive record...etc" but even if that's the case, it's not stopping Man Utd and Chelsea positively horsing them even on their own patch and these are the results which will mainly lose them the league and similarly sides in the CL. Wenger is an outstanding manager, and probably moreso as a coach, but I think there comes a point where you have to just admit defeat and rip it all up and start again. There is a severe lack of substance in that side and until that changes he'll win fuck all.

The Trust gathered a head of steam towards the end of Paterson's last (only) full season when Willie was on board with them and another guy who had previously been on the board of AFC and left because of his relationship with Milne (? Jim Cummings I think his name is). They held a meeting at the Beach Ballroom which me and my mates went to with a couple of hundred others and it was good, they were really up for challenging the board and Milne in particular, they knew that the football side of things was the most important (something I think Milne loses sight of) but of course, their figurehead was then employed by Milne that summer and I thought they had disbanded as I'd heard fuck all from them until relatively recently. This is the thing that annoys me. If the Trust were not happy with Milne's stewardship, and they clearly weren't, why did they stop pressurising Milne and the board? Why did the former board member disappear from public view? Do they say "ok, the team's challenging for Europe, we're content with that. That'll do, no need to rock the boat"? I get the feeling that's the case and I think that's fucking tragic.

Fantastic post Maverick. Perhaps someone at the club should type up something similar to put on the dressing room wall urging the players to get their collective finger out.

Spurs one up on Arsenal, absolute peach of a goal from Danny Rose, left foot volley from 35 yards or so.

That's because we can't keep what we don't currently have.

10 for me: Langfield (though I'd prefer someone better) Foster Diamond Considine Aluko Pawlett Paton Megginson Fyvie Grimmer Thought hard about Duff, Young, Mackie and Maguire. I'd probably be tempted to keep Duff as a squad player. Maguire I think has the potential but I reckon maybe a change is best for both parties now. Mackie and Young have their uses as squad players, but I think both are indicative of the general malaise that's been over Pittodrie for a couple of years now and would be better for everyone if they could find new clubs.

What a lot of nonsense Mizer. I don't particularly have a lot of faith in the guy but I certainly dont think he's given up and I certainly don't think he's willing to "let us go down". If he comes out and says "we'll definitely stay up" you'd have a moan at that, he says this and you moan at that too. Obviously the way round that is that he says fuck all, but that isn't going to happen because press commitments are part of his job.

Things aren't good Reekie, in fact they're pretty hellish but I think saying he has set us back more than Alex fucking Miller and Roy Aitken is taking it too far.

it's more his general demeanour/body language that pisses me off than anything.

agree with you there Padre. Couldn't give a fuck if the guy never played for us again.

To be honest, I think the above undermines your argument.

But if they're under contract they don't have to move anywhere whether we want them to shift or not. if someone has a year left with us why would they go to the lower reaches of Scottish Football for less money if they can pick up considerably more with us for doing fuck all, especially if they think the manager who wants them out will get the sack in the forseeable future?

I know where you're coming from, but I just worry. He's had two transfer windows which have been pretty shambolic. It looks like the players aren't playing for him and haven't been for some time - it could be argued they never have been. It seems there is no cohesion, no spirit and with the run of matches we have coming up that is the most worrying part as it's apparent he is unable to galvanise the useless cunts. What if we can't move on the players he wants to move on? They stay on and still have no interest in playing for the guy, they will get him the sack if that's their perogative, they're a shower of cunts if that is the case but can we afford to take the chance? If someone could guarantee me that we will be safe I will - grudgingly - accept McGhee as manager for next season, but that rope is tightening around his neck and I hate to say that because when I was a wee kid I thought he was fantastic, one of the first footballers I ever admired and I don't want the seperation to be in such sad and bitter circumastances. But the welfare of AFC comes first.

Of course they didn't, but you may have noticed that their "Duds list" didn't comprise of every player they'd signed...

Why were they talking about him and why did they ask a blind man to describe him as a player?

Unfortunately I think this is accurate. The signing players bit in particular worries me going on what we've had already.