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It's a fucking joke actually. We've had to play a replay. A yellow in the cup should just be added to league yellows. Will be a huge miss in the semi. Just as he was against Motherwell.

8. Impressive. Sounds like Goldson lucky not to be redded.

Need another player to take a booking. The huns have been diving all over the fucking shop. They don't deserve anything from this game. Cheating hun cunts.

Shinnie banned for the semi. Bit shite the old yellow card situation like. A joke that you can miss semi finals.

May, fucking hell. Not done much, no sense in risking him missing the semi. Get Wilson on.

Get him off.

Have to say, McCann is a good pundit like. Speaks with the insight of a manager.

back to radio it seems. stream cancelled due to copyright. Take it nobody has anything else..

Cheers, I got it. Wasn't great, but hopefully a bit better in the second. We won't last another 45 minutes playing like this, we need a bit more of an out ball than Stevie May. McLennan not done much either. Don't think we'll finish with 10 either. Clancy very card happy. Consistently so, to be fair, but they're throwing themselves to the ground at every opportunity.

Link min....

Nah, radio only due to Champions League cuntery.

Get in. McGinn hates the huns.

Agree that I think we had our chance. Never liked Ferguson playing further forward, it nullifies his game in my opinion. I would think that if Campbell plays it'd be flat 3 in the midfield in 4-5-1. I'd rather see a more attacking player in midfield if that's the case, as I think Wilson will need someone close to him. I'd have Wilson and Stewart central to see if they can link up. McLennan has been poor going forward, but he's vastly improved his tracking back so he's not entirely wasted out wide. I'd prefer McGinn or GMS obviously.

Ahh, forgot about Cosgrove missing. Agree with the above.

Let's get this one back to the top. What's everyone's views for tonight? Same team as Saturday? Any ideas on GMS or McGinn's fitness? If availabe, I'd take GMS in for McLennan and if he's not interested then ditch him at half time. Otherwise probably the same 11, and definitely the same formation (4 at the back). Wilson looked like he did some actual work, so give him a wee chance to show what he can do again and perhaps ditch him for McGinn at half time (a lot of half time subs!) if he's pish. I always think that Wilson might produce a belter fae nowhere, despite the fact that he's been lazy, pish and uninterested because he scored a peach at Hamilton. Also, any idea if the game will be shown on Red TV or anywhere else? Or are we to be dictated to by UEFA due to some horseshite tournament that all fitba fans must surely watch?

I think it's actually much worse than that. I think he did watch him play.

But McInnes clearly believes he has committed himself, working long hours and sacrificing family time. I don't think he's lying in any way in the article below. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aberdeen-gaffer-derek-mcinnes-reveals-10185861 So there's an obvious discrepancy between what you think commitment is and he does. I think that it shows that he's an above average SPFL (and probably championship level) fitba manager. I don't think "barely competent" is an objective view point. I think that the evidence of the last six seasons show some glaring inadequacies. In my opinion, he works very hard for AFC and he is committed (maybe to his career as much as to AFC, but that would be splitting hairs) but perhaps his inadequacies can't be overcome by hard work. Perhaps he doesn't recognise them (or - just as likely - I'm wrong). Either way, from chatting on here, most folk are in agreement about his inadequacies, so at the very least we can identify those in another manager (as well as those of McInnes' qualities we'd like to retain). I liked your comment about culture on another thread and I think that's definitely missing at AFC, along with accountability. Our signings and youth promotion appear to be without a club strategy and they are definitely areas which the board and staff should have offered more resource to help the manager (maybe they have, I don't know). I think McInnes has taken us forward and there's a clear path to improvement. I hope that the club sees that.

Avoiding the McInnes debate for a second, would you want somebody who didn't see AFC as a stepping stone? I probably wouldn't. Not with our existing position in the game. Unless it was me of course, I'd be there for life. I don't think Craig Brown ever saw AFC as a stepping stone whereas Mark McGhee made clear before he played his first game that he wanted bigger things. I want us to have an ambitious manager, with ambitions for both himself and the club. For what it's worth, I think McInnes does have ambitions for AFC as evidenced by his persistence on the training ground issue and his overhaul of the backroom staff and processes, but I'm not convinced/unsue he has the ability to match his ambition, which I suppose is the key.

Have you got a piece of land like? Or one available? It's usually where the cost is. A self-build is a no brainer like if you can find land somewhere you like. Be much cheaper in the long run as you'll get a far better build for the money. Especially if you look to minimise yer energy uses by way of good design (insulation, elevation (solar gain), yer solar power etc). Depending on your plot, you might be best to get an architect to design something that takes these types of things into account as yer pre-fabs/kits are not designed with any particular thought to the land in which they sit. I have a kit hoose with amazing views from my frosted bathroom window and frosted en-suite because it's a standard design (nice hoose like, just doesn't make best use of its surroundings). Obviously cost is a big part, but if you give an architect a budget and challenge them to work to it I'm sure they'll get something.

It's been good as always, but you've taken it too far with that. I have never said that the "day-out" was an important factor! Unless I was posting whilst on drugs. Drugs that turned me into a queer.

Wiseness isn't a function of age, that's just an arrogant statement by an older person. Experience, definitely, but the phrase "wise beyond their years" exists for a reason. Can you quantify "more often than not"? You're missing the point. I'm not here to argue that McInnes is a winner, I'm arguing the extent to which being a winner makes any difference in the overall scheme of things in a season and suggesting that it has far less impact than good transfer dealings, etc etc. You would have made exactly the same point about McInnes' interview prior to the hun semi final too, most definitely, but we won. Grow up, nobody is insulting anyone. You and I both know that you're not the type to take insult in an online debate. No I didn't. I simply said that it was the only example of its kind anywhere this century and they haven't repeated those conditions since, which suggests it was as much a case of everything going right at the right time. I also suggested that the dons winning the league would have been a bigger achievement and that you would definitely have accused Ranieri of not being a winner prior to being appointed Leicester manager. Don't tell me what my objective is. I'll have to take your word for it on McInnes talking about getting to a final (I do, I'm not suggesting your lying). I've heard him on numerous occasions state that, but it's always been caveated with "but it's always been my desire to bring silverware back to Pittodrie/fans deserve it etc" (pharaphrasing, obviously). I heard him say that on so many occasions I can't take it particularly seriously, nor do I think it has any bearing as to what he says behind closed doors or to the team. Obviously, prior to a game I'd rather he said as little as possible.

I understand entirely what you're saying. I also know that you need more than placating interviews on the TV to judge a man's personality. I'm also not arguing that McInnes is a winner, I'm arguing that you or I are not best placed to know (or that you haven't evidenced your additional knowledge that allows you to make the decision). Anyone suggesting they have a real insight into a man's character based on his interviews is a snake oil salesman. I appreciate that you probably have more information than that, but you haven't been forthcoming with it. I've provided you with reasons for us not winning the league - far more plausible than just being a winner - you just choose to ignore them. I've been very critical of McInnes on this forum because of them. Where you see bottle collapsing, I see a significantly better and more clinical side beating us because we didn't do everything 100% correctly on the day (most of the time I blame McInnes) to ensure that we win. I also recognise that we've won a shite load of big games under McInnes where we've gone in thinking that we'd lose; they just don't happen to have been against the Tims (because a big game isn't just playing the Tims, there have been plenty of unexpected league and cup victories). Finally, I do recognise that McInnes' tactical approach against the Tims has been too negative and have mentioned, and criticised him for, it on hunners of occasions. I only comment on his tactical side because I don't have any visibility of what he's like behind the scenes. Anecdotally, I've heard that he may actually be quite good in instilling belief in his players at times, but I wouldn't take what a person says to the press as evidence of what happens behind the scenes at a fitba club.

Murray is a good example. For years he played safe by getting his first serves in, rather than getting them in and making them winners. He generally played to his strengths of returning the ball over playing winners. That quantifiable change (playing for winners and stronger first serves), as well as his overall fitness, made a big difference in the year he became world number one. Having Lendl (a winner) as his coach relentlessly pursuing these changes with him took him over the edge to top spot. The difference for me was that he was very close to the other 3 in terms of ability. I don't think Aberdeen, this season, are anywhere near it (the Tims) - I think we're significantly weaker than we were two seasons ago. As I mentioned earlier, we had a weakness in the right side of our defence which meant that a quick ball over the top of a high line would be very simple to exploit. Tactics don't exist in a vacuum, they're deployed against an opposition who also have a huge desire to win, who will spot those weaknesses very quickly. In a straight head-to-head of who can score most goals I think they'd win every day of the week. Basically, I think that by playing on the front foot (a high press or whatever) we'd increase our likelihood of losing a goal(s) by more than we would increase our likelihood of scoring a goal. I also think that Celtic were not that good because we weakened them by playing to our strengths. Had we pushed them high up and lost a goal in the process, I think we'd have seen a more relaxed and ruthless Tim. I accept that you have more insight into the game though as I wasn't there so you'll know much better in that regard. All I'm saying is that I can see the point in the tactical choice, and that it is just a tactical choice. Aye, that's wanky as fuck like. I wasn't aware of that.

I understand entirely what you're saying, I just don't believe that you have the evidence or knowledge of McInnes to back it up - or you certainly haven't produced any. Instead, I concentrate on the things that we can know based on watching the team on the pitch when I regularly criticise McInnes. I regularly criticise his record in the transfer market, I regularly criticise his failure to provide a clear path for our youth players to their detriment and I regularly criticise his ability to change games through timely substitutions. All of which I can quantify based on what I see on the park. I can speculate on whether he's a loser or a winner, but it would be just that (throughout his career he's been identified as a winner - possibly by losers, I don't know - and he clearly believes himself that he is a winner). I also don't believe that being a winner would be enough to overcome the existing gap in ability between our players and the tims' players - I think it would need more than that.

Exactly, using 30-40 year old data as a comparison for today, when there's a whole rake of more pertinent data - worldwide - from the last 20 years is pointless. Saying "I can remember when going to either of the arse cheeks and playing for a draw was frowned upon" surely doesn't refer to anything in the 21st century (and at least back as far as 1995)? So why say it? Why are we judging McInnes against a different era? You could argue that it's Milne's fault, and I think there is a lot in that, but you can't then take McInnes out of the Milne era and hold him to a standard based on a previous generation and owner.