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That's not how the application was been made though, so I don't think they can do that, it'll be all or nothing wouldn't it? The club will be wanting to force their hand.

Nah, the loans thing was way back. They've had more than enough time to get something sorted after several attempts. The most recent being the BOD one with RGU that fell through very late in the process because of access times or something (stuff that should have been made clear on day one). That makes a mockery of the various statements about it being necessary to have training ground and stadium in the same location - we were more than happy for that not to be the case very recently. The scaremongering around what will happen if the stadium doesn't go through is a little crass like, and using the training as any part of that is massively disingenuous. Despite the shite transport plan, I think it'll sail through in a few weeks.

I think it's because the Pistachio is actually a seed and nae a nut. But I could be wrong (I'm nae). So it's seed is protected. It's just the way it evolved via natural selection. Yer earlier pistachios offered nae protection to their seeds, and only the eens with the protective shell survived to give birth to yer later pistachios. Question is, do we move beyond natural selection shortly? I reckon so. Better than jesus, that's us.

Jesus forgives your intolerance of others.

1st September and the midweek after, against Lithuania and Malta. Nae real surprise regarding the squad. Shinnie should be ahead of McGinn, but not really too bad otherwise. Nae Rhodes unsurprisingly, nae Burke either. Seeing as that inconsiderate fucker Nips didn't provide a link whilst angrily starting a thread, here it is.... http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40999223

Missed an absolute sitter against Hamilton, which didn't help him. It's not that though, he's capable of the odd bit of skill and effort here and there much like Goodwillie, but it's hiding his massive weaknesses. May was available nearly every time Considine got the ball at the weekend. He was available everytime McLean, Tansey or Shinnie got the ball. He made the space in front of the defence his domain, allowing us to retain the ball high up the park. He does this by putting his body between the defender and the ball. He's either getting a free-kick or bringing someone else into the game, or just misplacing a pass. Maynard came on, and immediately the defender was just taking that step beyond him and picking up the pass into his feet. He's a yard short to every single pass, never in front of his man and when he gets the ball he panics (at one point at the weekend just headering the ball into open space just to get rid of it). It's exactly the same as Goodwillie was (other than he doesn't do that stupid falling over and holding his head thing), hiding in open space, pretending to make the run for the over the top ball rather than take the ball into feet. Rooney is a yard short of pace at the moment but he's still making the runs and is just a bit short on finishing and opportunities. Rooney is short of form, Maynard has forgotten what to do. Doing the easy bit like occasionally tanking around to close down a defender will only take you so far. He's not going to make it. I suspect he's only still here because we've only just signed him. I think January will be the end of him. The problem for me is that he's taking that space on the bench because we have signed him. But as Nips says, we're unlikely to see a youngster get on anyway, so maybe it's fine to keep him on the bench.

Maynard is gash and shouldn't have been signed. I suspect it was a stop gap in case we didn't get in another striker. Would like to see him moved on as he's taking up game time that would be better served for others (Wright should have been on way before him at the weekend for example). Rooney will be here for as long as is required. Two good strikers fighting for one position is fine. Punt Stockley and promote youth. Given May's injury record over the last couple of seasons, I'd expect to see lots of Rooney this season. Unfortunately, I think McInnes will continue with the Rooney wide left shite for some time to come as he tries to keep him happy and fit with some game time.

Just watched the highlights back on Red TV. Exactly as I rembered it - fairly pish. Disagree with Rocket, thought Stewart was good when he came on, played some nice stuff and unlucky not to score after a great run. Every defender made a mistake that could have resulted in a goal yesterday, as did Tansey and Shinnie with sloppy passing, with Christie putting the icing on the cake with a beautiful assist for theirs. I understand he's young and won't play every game, but Wright should have been on that pitch for at least the last 30 minutes. GMS was pash, as was Christie. Bringing on the black Goodwillie is embarrassing, he's gash. As Goodwillie, Parker, Monakana, Burns etc etc have before, he's taking up game time that should be afforded to our youngster. McInnes needs to quickly see that he's pish and stop bringing him on and let him go in January. That's the trouble with having a big squad of senior players, you have to keep playing them. Rooney out wide with Wright on the bench is nonsense, although I understand he probably did it just to let him get some game time and offer some hold up play out wide. May and O'Connor were good, McLean and maybe Tansey pass marks. Rest were pish.

Meh. He's just an al' Ant or Dec.

Yep, out of contract in the summer. Very similar to Considine, decent on the ball and strong. However, he's pap on his left foot. That was his major problem last season, McInnes kept playing him left side because he didn't trust Taylor (correctly) to make contact with the ball on his wrong foot. A good run of games on the right side of defence will see him come good, which he was crying out for last season.

That sounds like it could be pretty entertaining to be honest.

You do realise that everyone has Simmie and Durrant on their user name? It's the Donstalk equivalent of "Likes" (and dislikes). You've regularly asserted in this thread that "it's just a forum". You're correct. So calm the fuck doon.

Yep, an excellent point.

I hate union square, it's a fuckin weird place. I have been to it though. Once or twice. I like the improvements to the train and bus station. The rest is gash. The food places are pap. I'd rather have seen an open space with trees.

Ace min, looking forward to it. Enjoy your holiday!

Why? What piece of evidence swayed it for you? Great speech by McInnes like, he's very good. He's right (as are you tlg) that we need training facilities in order to keep ahead Hertz, Hibs and the huns. He wasn't really able to articulate the reasons behind requiring training and stadium in the same location, probably cause there aren't any particularly obvious ones. For what it's worth, I also think Pittodrie is a shite hole and needs to be replaced. It's entirely about location for me. It's like moving yer cinema fae Union Square to Badentoy.

All this talk of "great memories" is a little bit insensitive, isn't it?

Aye, shame like. Loved his time at the dons, so fair play to him. Some good nights under his tenure. Some horrendous too, but that's what makes fitba good.

Exactly. Fuck all in the scheme of Bellfield, Loirston, Kingsford and Tommy Wright. The minimum we should be doing. I think that's vastly over-stating it. But, yes. There is very little existing surrounding private property behind the mainer. This is no different to the private road concern that stopped Loirston. It was a perfectly surmountable issue that the club chose not to pursue, rather have a rant at the cooncil. Again, we've not approached the council, so we've nae idea. It's publicly owned, so I'd suggest that a sympathetic council would be far easier to bring to an agreement than getting them to support a whole new stadium. Again, without seeing diagrams to show which flats are affected, it's not particularly useful to speculate. It could be entire buildings, or could just be a few flats. Again, work it out and get it costed. But show us the workings and show us plans so people can see the evidence for themselves. The emergency services route and concourse is interesting. I'd assume the away end would move to the beach end, thus there'd be access to the entire Souther from the beach end or graveyard side of things. Not sure if that works regulation-wise, but I can't see why not. I'd say that's the least you could do......

Aye, you're right. We have a terrible system here too, but it's hard to get a grasp on the yanks' mentality. Especially the breadth of that mentality, where huge numbers of people have entirely opposing views that can't possibly reconciled, but are too popular to be ignored (like we can ignore the EDL here for example... or the Lib Dems). I think the yanks could do with being a little less united states and a bit more independent states. Force some change through that way. Brexit for Dakota I say.

Again, nobody is arguing that Reynolds is strong....

Your last paragraph is just meaningless guff. We don't need to accept anything, we need to be presented with evidence. Nobody is making the argument that change isn't necessary, simply that the suggested change isn't very good - stop conflating arguments. Whether you or I think somewhere is acceptable is irrelevant, it's whether or not it is demonstrably more accessible and viable than existing - that has not been evidenced. Your first part is exactly what I'm asking for. All these costs are part of the project and would be detailed in a well-presented feasibility study/dummy planning application. I could provide a list of things for Kingsford: access road, foundations, hazardous waste ( ) etc. and say "where are we getting the money from?". It's meaningless. None of the problems you pose are insurmountable, they just add cost and are going to be done by a developer buying the site so certainly aren't prohibitive to us (in terms of physical ability), they get done all the time in building works. A detailed explanation of that cost and what takes us over our £35M available budget if that is the case. Just listing these points to make it sound as if the idea is ridiculous is disingenuous, they are just things that add cost that you or I have not costed or been shown a costing of to make any series point on. As for the training centre. The notion that it needs to be anywhere near the ground is ridiculous, as is evidenced all over the UK and Europe. It will perhaps save a small amount yearly going forward, but nothing close to the cost of shuttle buses every week forever. The cost of the training centre will be the same whether it's in Kingsford or Inverurie, I couldn't care less (although I very much agree one is required). In fact, I think Kingsford is an excellent place for the training facilities. Cause there's fuck all else there.

It's really intriguing. The problem is that people keep feeding the troll. He's right about the statue thing (sort of), it just didn't need to happen. You educate people and educate people and then when everyone understands you quietly remove the statue without fanfare or complaint. The Saddamesque toppling of the statue - that's been there for a bit of time - just gives folk like Trump the opportunity to act like a fucker. The slightest gap to slide his veiled bigotry through. Racism won't stop because you throw people in jail or tape their mouths up, it happens through time and education. People like Trump are narcissistic and will jump on any cause to further themselves, you just reduce the number of people who listen to him. The other issue is what next? With self-righteous indignation across the board at anything Trump says or does (let's be honest, not all of it is justified), we're heading straight back to a Clinton or Obama. A bought and paid for corporate shill. The American got the fact that something wasn't right, they just chose the wrong option to fix it (or more correctly, they weren't given another option). Until there's another option, then perhaps the Americans are best served by the mentalist in the white house. He might just force something better out of the works.

If you're going to call out 100%AK's shite, at least do it with something that's not absolute bullshit yersel. The above is just patronising airy-fairy shite about feelings. We've asking for facts. Not some straw-man bollocks about favourite restaurants that have nothing to do with anything. You mention re-directing streets? Where's the evidence that says that can't be done? Where's even the slightest attempt to make that happen from our club? Where's the application to the council to do that? You're telling me that the club couldn't put heaps of pressure - as it's currently doing to push through Kingsford - on the council to change one street in the city right next to the existing stadium? We're saying that an application for an entire stadium in a completely new location with next to zero transport plan is easier to get through planning than re-routing Pittodrie street? I don't really believe that. I'm not suggesting it would be easy, I'm suggesting there has been no effort to make it happen, rather there has been active effort to make it not happen.

Of course I do. That's the absolute minimum they should be doing. They should be investigating moving the Main stand and re-routing the road, stepping the South stand from right to left (as you face it) to avoid blocking light whilst gaining more seats, investigate buying the bottom row of flats in the building most affected in order to gain an extra metre or two in height. Using general imagination and working out what maximum size they could reach, and allowing fans to submit a series of questions (stupid or otherwise) to help satisfy any concerns. List the various options and reasons why those options are unfeasible. Take suggestions and develop them or send them back with a reason why they're gash. Involve the community and fans in a decision that will affect them long after Stewarty moves on. That's what they did for Loirston, that's what they're doing for Kingsford and I dare say they did similar for Bellfied (was that what it was called? I canna mine now) too. If they haven't already done that, then why not? If I could see the drawings and see the work done, be given the opportunity to submit ideas and make comment, I'd definitely believe it. As I can't see the drawings (not even yours...!), I don't believe it. The cost of being inclusive and open/transparent is nothing and will only benefit the club in the long run. I dare say it'd even be the difference between getting Kingsford through planning or not. Threats of "we'll have to play in Glasgow" just make me more suspicious. Those aren't the comments of a trustworthy person, who's made a watertight and transparent case.