RicoS321

I'd rather eat my own shite than suggest Lennon for manager. That said, given the choice, I'd have had him over Warnock. If Warnock goes, just give Leven control and make it very clear that he's only there for a few weeks until we sort someone out, and that there is absolutely zero pressure or expectation on him to do anything as manager other than to turn up and take the team. Make sure that the fans are clear on this too. Realistically, a new manager should be on board by mid May at the latest (playoff dependent), so that they can begin the build for next season, as well as have a clear idea of what the current team has, or doesn't. What will actually happen, of course, is that our shitey review will be ongoing into June, when we get some foreign manager in (because Dave hasn't tried foreign yet, you see). The review will conclude that we need various structural and staff changes, will begin just as we leave the summer transfer window. At which point, the foreign manager will have recruited his foreign friends to play for us, resulting in the usual mixed bag of utter pish, average and one gem to make it all right. We will not publicly acknowledge the fact that the new manager hasn't had the benefit of our review changes, nor any support in his role in a new country, and we'll part ways when we're in eighth place in January, replacing with someone who knows the Scottish game.

I've been spreading rumours. Once the rumours start, he's gone. I hope.

Morris might be quite useful as a sub in the championship. I think we've found our answer to poor recruitment actually. Just keep getting relegated until our recruits are at a level where they can look good.

Whatever it is, it should be enough to get us out of the championship at the second or third attempt.

Did we? I was actually ready to come on and apologise for my suggestion that we shouldn't go to a back three after the subs, because it had got through the game without too much bother. Roos flapped at one cross, but did they get any shots on target in the second half? I'm probably forgetting one or two, but for all that we gave up possession, we kept it fairly tight up until Devlingate in my opinion. Obviously, you're right that we shouldn't be conceding that much possession against St Mirren, but that has to come with the caveat that we've been shiter than them all season and terrible for weeks now. There are many teams in the SPFL this season who've scored the first goal, had horrendous possession stats and still comfortably won the game, that's pretty much a description of how to win in this league. I'm not sticking up for Warnock though. He needs to go. I don't really care about the cup game, staying in the league is priority, and if losing the quarter final expedites the exit of the charlatan then that'd be fine.

Cormack will have inserted a runaway clause into his contract, giving him three years EPL salary. He didn't do a huge amount wrong today, given our current mess. He was unlucky. However, the overall collapse since he arrived leads to this sort of pish. It's similar to that Goodwin game where we collapsed. We will be in the playoffs if Warnock stays. He needs to go.

In and out of the box isn't ever put down to clear and obvious though, just like offside. They always make an exact call (if they can) because it isn't subjective. That's why the ref wasn't required to go to the monitor, as it's either in or out. The only time clear and obvious comes into play is whether it was a foul or not. You think it might not have been, I think it was. Either way, it wasn't a clear and obvious error by the ref, and he gave the foul. There's no way they could have overturned that. Nor should they. Yes and no. I don't remember them having a shot on target in the second half, and the best chance, by some distance, fell to us. They didn't create much at all, and basically looked like we do when playing well and a stuffy team comes to pittodrie. They were actually fairly devoid of ideas. For a team lacking in confidence, we battled hard and were definitely going home with three points before Devlin intervened. I don't think they deserved to win, but we can have no complaints that they did!

In fairness, they weren't questioning the foul, just where the contact took place. It shouldn't take three minutes, but I guess when it comes to objective calls like "in or out", you can perhaps understand them taking a bit more time to be certain. It was fairly clearly in, I'd say. The foul itself was never really in question either, Devlin throws his leg into the guy to try and buy a freekick and gets it all wrong, bringing him down. I expect Warnock to cut his balls off, it was fucking terrible play. Again, in fairness, I think Roos realises he's stepped a mile off his line and just sorting of falls over. He really should be better at pens though, given the number we concede.

You're back to discuss Bojan are you? Devlin sold the shirts. Tried to be clever and win a freekick when he easily had the winning of that ball. Just needed to boot it. They weren't scoring otherwise.

Fucking hell.

As does Devlin. Definite pen.

I stand corrected. Good work Warnock. McGarry upfield, unless we're (hopefully not) switching to a back three.

Warnock very slow with subs, like all managers these days. I'd have Duk off, maybe Polvara on. Or McGrath.

Also, dogshit coverage from Red TV.

I think so, but it's been okay. The away team and massively lacking in confidence, they're just not keen to do anything at all risky. That's fine, get them in at half time and get them calmed down and work on it in the second half. Would like to see more from Hoilett. Not sure he's that great, but it's good to have that wide position not getting dragged in too often. McGrath should be an option there shortly, but that'll sacrifice width. Duk giving a lot of space to Tanser on the other side too, but we've defended really well in our box. Phillips doing okay, his workrate is very good, we're just unlikely to get anything good from him on the ball.

I should turn it on late more often. Looks like a good conventional 4-2-3-1, which is nice to see. Jensen at left back is probably better than Jensen at centre half. Not sure about Philips in terms of ability, but simple instructions to stay high and press and he'll be fine. A good start.

No we don't. Close thread. Nothing to see here. The season ended, we finished a respectable eighth.

Nice work seabass. Very good.

Because he was pish.

That was a fucking disgrace tonight. Once again the clueless fud dicks about with the formation and approach (I'm assuming he recently watched the "the one where Barry plays Milne at right wing back" video and thought that that'd be the repeat mistake he'd go for tonight). After hanging our only striker out to dry at the weekend, he decides a back three should be a laugh to raise the confidence of those lads. Congest our midfield? Why not. Pass marks for Shinnie tonight, the rest were, to a man, absolutely dogshite. We're regressing at a phenomenal pace. As @wee toon red says, this is Butcheresque. We're in serious danger here. We have to pull the trigger on the manager. I'll drive the cunt to the station (and by that, I mean into the sea).

The charlatan has to go now. He's not up to it and we'll end up relegated if we don't act. He's not taking it seriously, and shouldn't be here. He obviously thought he could just turn up and wing it. What a fucking embarrassment. He's taking the piss out of our club and every Dons fan.

We neither have the option to not give Warnock a chance, nor the time to give him a chance. The entire point in Warnock is the immediate reaction, that's what he does. That's what Robson did last season. If we don't get the bounce, then we have nothing with Warnock, as he very much said himself with his "not my type of team" comment. The way we beat St Johnstone is by being better at football than them. Moving the ball quickly, getting it through the midfield quickly, drawing them out and dragging them around. In other words, avoid the majority of the physical battle, apart from in the one or two areas that those things matter, where we've got enough between Shinnie, Devlin, MacKenzie, Gartenmann that we can be aggressive in winning the ball back. It's about not playing to the strengths of a more physical team by fucking about with long throws, long punts, free kicks punted into the box from our own half and running away from the goalie with your back to him so he's got nobody to release. The exact opposite of the Kilmarnock game. If Warnock's experience doesn't lead him towards a different way of winning football games, then he's clearly not good enough, and his comments were bordering on unforgivable. We're missing the presence of Rubezic a lot more than expected it has to be said. Is there any suggestion as to when he might return?

This only furthers my belief that gyms are for weirdos.

This sounds very good (apart from the Clement bit), but what does building a legacy actually mean? Is it attainable in Scottish football, with its small, tight, league and trigger happy chairmen? Is there a single example of it in Scottish football? Surely, if legacy is our goal, then the manager is only a small part of that, and what happens behind the scenes is far more important (any really good manager will leave within a couple of seasons)? For me, Cormack was right to identify strong, independent, roles for recruitment, youth development, sports science etc, all under the handle of a knowledgeable director with a clear strategy. The execution was massively flawed of course. Incompetent, I'd say. As for the Scandinavian coaches, what specifically is it they're offering that coaches in Scotland aren't? Is it just timing, in that there happen to be a few good ones whilst there's slim pickings here just now? More specifically, what is it with regard to legacy building that they're doing? Are they making sustained progress (or not significantly regressing), or are they just flavour of the Scandi moment, in the same way Robinson might get binned for a poor start next season? Is it the managers' approach that's making the difference or are the clubs themselves the ones creating the environment for success? In other words, is there any evidence that those clubs will continue to be successful once giants like the Dons swoop in and steal their manager (legacy)? McInnes' relative success at Killie has been down to a sustained team over the past few seasons, simply swapping in and out known quantities (Findlay, for example, was a far better signing than any of our centre backs) to gradually improve them season by season. We've had three seasons of 10+ transfers in the summer and January loanees, resulting in our errors just being carried forward. McInnes has been backed by his club, basically.

We've certainly got the chairman to make that happen.