RicoS321

I heard a rumour that he was manager of the month for September.

There's no way the Yes campaign could have out-lied a Westminster and Murdoch/Rothemere etc backed lie campaign. Nor did they need to. PR alone was good enough to vote Yes for if we'd had our own currency. That would have put us on a level starting point with every other sovereign country in the world, but with a fair voting system. An instant step up from being part of the FPTP UK.

I can see why people voted No. I didn't, and was never going to, but the SNP "vision" was just a Scottish version of the status quo. It was truly fuckin dire. They avoided the currency issue like the plague, because the most obvious and best solution for Scotland - creating its own currency - was unpalatable for most economy-spakkers. The complete and utter lack of vision in the white paper was staggering, and the failure to mention issues such as resource use, the environment, work-automation - i.e. the massive head-in-the-sand topics for our UK government meant we were essentially voting for PR in order that we could get a better option after independence. I suspect many people saw a Scottish establishment replacing a UK one, and they could be forgiven for thinking that. So for many, the changes presented weren't worth the risk where the debt-fuelled status quo for most people is being a job-loss away from losing your house, marriage, car etc. The SNP - because it was all about the SNP - didn't nearly do enough to reassure people that there'd be a safety net, that the right of the person would trump those of the corporation and that the state would provide the fall-back if things didn't go swimmingly. When you're selling something as big as the SNP were, it's not good enough to say that we're capable of running things, so don't worry. You need to give people the scenario if things don't go well for them too. The SNP still haven't provided that, nor have they produced a credible currency option. They're relying on things getting so bad under Westminster - either through a financial crash or a Euro exit - that they'll get a back-door referendum 2. At which point they'll dust down The White Paper and sell us the same stunted vision. Voting Yes required/requires a hell of a lot of trust, assumption and vision that many people weren't/aren't willing to give or can visualise. I would suggest a lot of people voted No through scepticism rather than stupidity.

I can't wait to spit at him as he walks past me in the mainer again.

You can't say cunt on Aberdeen Mad. Anyway, here's the link to the only thread I've ever mentioned you in on Aberdeen Mad for those interested. No mention of cunts from me. http://boards.footymad.net/aberdeen-mad/2109884551?pg=2#dkQG5oIiZV4zS9AI.97 But my analogy did need work like.

It's the murder equivalent of East Stirling beating Kilmarnock. You don't support East Stirling as such, but like to back the underdog. Especially when they're up against an odious puppet side, led by an utter fucking cunt. But then they've got some nice people; Josh Magennis. For that reason you don't completely hate them, because most of them just want to get on with their lives and have no association with the atrocities being carried out in their name - like deliberately bombing a hospital, or abstaining on the vote on whether or not to allow sevco into the premier league.

Barraclough dunted. Nae surprise. Fantastic demolition of the huns aside, he's been fairly pap. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34339870

Yep. I think it's a little bit Timmish. We need to win everything we play in. We need guys like Cammy Smith, Robson etc to be match ready when the time comes. We've got a big enough of squad of decent players now that we should not be concentrating solely on league performances.

Germany gets a lot of credit for its stance, and it's certainly doing a lot. However, its stranglehold on the Euro makes it a lot easier for Germany than it is for Greece or Italy for example. The attempted forcing of Euro countries to "balance their books" (not run a deficit) means that those countries are making an either/or choice regarding helping refugees - where the either/or is between helping refugees or helping its own citizens struggling under the weight of ridiculous austerity and debt conditions. Similarly in the UK. The refugee situation is presented as an either/or situation. The suggestion in the media, and parroted by many you see being interviewed in the streets, is that at a time of food banks, unemployment, so-called housing shortages and benefit cuts we "can't afford to take in any more people". The basic challenge to this mantra doesn't seem to exist, anywhere, despite the fact it has absolutely no truth in it whatsoever. Unlike our Euro counterparts, we are a sovereign country with a sovereign currency (take note SNP, get a f'n proper alternative on currency for the next indyref, ye useless fucks). We have an ageing population, a crumbling and inefficient housing stock and a terrible public transport system outside of London. England alone has over 200,000 permanently unoccupied homes (600,000 total). Austerity is an ideology. A choice. The suggestion that in some way we don't have the resources, the room, the money, the employment to welcome refugees is simply a lie. We (our government) are choosing not to - nothing more. Should there be a limit? Possibly, but it should be based on our ability to process them in a safe and respectful manner, ensuring that they are provided for and not some arbitrary figure made up by government because they think it's the least they can offer to appease both sides of a biased argument.

I suspect he was probably asked the question, "do you think you should be sacked if you fail to win the league" and he's agreed. He's probably not thought about it in any great detail. It's more a case of bad journalism again I reckon. Yiv hit the nail on the heed with yer "doesn't fit" comment, there's something nae right about him that I canna pit my finger on. I suspect the Tim fans see it that way too.

Class. They'd have been better sending letters to those without hygiene issues.

Could be a good one. It'll be interesting to see our line up. Would reckon at least one of the subs fae Saturday will start (Flood or Parker), or perhaps even a chance for Pawlett. Think Quinn will replace Considine and Shinnie will more back to left back to free up a space for one of the previously benched midfielders. I'm going to guess: -------Danny, Danny Ward-------- Logan---Taylor----Quinn----Shinnie -------------Jack------------------- -------Mclean------Pawlett--------- McGinn-----------------------Hayes* --------------Rooney--------------- *Assuming Hayes can play if his appeal is being heard? If not, Parker. I think it's important to keep the competition for places up, hence why I wouldn't pick the same team as Saturday. We need 15-16 confident players all capable of coming on and doing a job.

Just to add, and I don't know if it's been apparent all season, but the Tims were fucking cynical yesterday. Perhaps it's because they were being outplayed, but the number of deliberate fouls from them was unreal. 4 bookings, should definitely have been 5 (it isn't possible to book Scott Brown apparently), but Blackett was also lucky not to be booked for his clumsy challenge on Logan (as well as a couple of other fouls), and Biton had a couple of niggly trips when he lost the ball too. Normally they just beat us by being better at fitba, but it reminded me of a Hearts team of old, or more recently ICT, with their cynical swipes. The usual level of diving too of course. Be interesting to know if they've been like that all season, or were just in a huff against us.

Just listening to off the ball. Cowan: Do you not think that if Graeme Shinnie had joined Ipswich instead of Aberdeen he would be straight in that Scotland team. Cosgrove: If Andy Considine played for West Ham or some other English team he'd be guaranteed a game for Scotland Whilst Considine made a couple of uncharacteristic (on last 3 season's form) errors today, he's been fantastic. However, Shinnie pished all over Brown in midfield today. Absolute class performance, my MOTM, he could walk into that Scotland team at either centre mid or left back. We're f'n magic.

I couldn't get my online purchase to work, and there was no answer on the phone so I just drove down and picked up a couple about 10:15 this morning. By 11:00am there seemed to only be about 30 tickets left. Will be interesting to see if they give us more at some point.

Second call up. Possibly first to a competitive match. Certainly not a more consistent performer than Jack. And not any improved since he left the jute.

Exactly. The "wanting to leave" part of the story is the journalistic licence. Added to unsettle us. Fortunately the vast majority of dons fans know Shay's position and wouldn't grudge him moving at the end of the season or even a pre-contract in January. He's a hard working lad, who'll do his best. Let's see him get stuck into those racist-supporting fucks.

Nae really. If Poland get anything against Germany tonight then - assuming we win tonight but don't get anything against Germany - we'd have to beat and also need Ireland to take at least a point off them in the final game. We really need Germany to win tonight to give us the best chance of qualifying. If we win tonight and Germany do, then the game on Monday is essentially a free game for us, where anything we get is just a bonus. If Poland take a point or more tonight, then we really need to do the same on Monday. Best would be we win and Poland lose. Assuming results go as expected on Monday, that means we can go through with a win, or a draw less than 2-2 against Poland in the next match. I think that's what we need to be hoping for after this round of games. Or we both tank Germany and knock them out of course.

You assume he knows the answer to that? I suspect he just fancied it at the time.

Okay, we agree that there has been mismanagement of the club, I'm just not entirely sure which motive you're talking about, hence why I'm not quite sure how to answer. If it's that he wants to re-develop Pittodrie for hooses, then he's made a complete an utter airse of it. He's had 20 years of hassle for a site that will barely pay itself back once the flats are built. I do agree with the wrong questions being asked though, that's why I asked you why you accept the Donald's generous gesture as genuine. I find it strange that they would out of the blue put £3M into the club at a time when we're (possibly/supposed to be) doing a building project, and I was disappointed those types of question weren't asked. Again, to re-iterate, I don't believe they are anything but genuine. The other question that has never been asked, and should have again and again and again, is why we sided with Celtic to ensure that the 11-1 voting system was kept in place. That to me showed more corruption and incompetence than any of his financial mismanagement. I'm in total agreement with your points! I find the media more culpable (I ken, you canna be more culpable, but it's late) than the politicians.

I am not saying that, no. I'd say he's made some pretty fundamental mistakes, with his worst offence being the constant siding with the scum - most specifically not getting a more even split of revenues after the huns went bust. I just don't believe he's been any worse than his counterpart SPL chairman. You seemed to imply something more deliberate, but perhaps I misread. I was just curious as to what benchmark we have for financial fitba management.It's a pretty fucked up sport financially, and can't be easy. I probably am just more willing to accept that he's failed, rather than something more sinister.

You're right, it was SMG that invested, not Milne. It was in preference shares. Canna mine the amount. I'm not sure how Milne not being majority shareholder backs up your argument surrounding his financial mismanagement of the club?

Interesting Rocket. Couple of things though. It appears that pretty much every other experienced businessman in the SPL fucked up their investments over the same time period. Also, why do the Donalds get automatic trust and credit for their investment, but Milne not? Who's to say that in return for their investment, WM Donald gets to become main contractor for the training facility and new stadium? I'm not having a go at the Donalds, I know absolutely nothing about them and would not be shocked to hear their motives are genuine - I believe they are. I'm just intrigued as to why you wouldn't raise the same questions about them, given your clear distrust of Milne? Milne invested his own money, and until recently was pretty much a failure. AAM invested their money, and failed. Tom Farmer at Hibs - failed, Robinson at Hearts - failed, Boyle at Motherwell - failed, Johnston at Killie - failed, Gilmour at St Mirren - failed, numerous at Dundee, shop-owner at the Jute, Murray at der bun, and so on. All "businessmen" who've financially mismanaged their clubs. Maybe fitba isn't as easy as folk think?

Airdrie at home for me

I'm nae going. My wife won't let me.