RicoS321

I agree, you can't force a manager not to pick players, but there are only two possible scenarios here. The first is that Warnock hasn't done any homework on the Dons at all, or he'd have known that his setup of players out of position (Morris massively, MacKenzie also and I'd argue Devlin) wouldn't work. That lineup was a sign of someone absolutely ignorant to our entire season, there is no other explanation. He strikes me as the type that would be obnoxious enough to suggest that everything up until now was the other guy's failings, and nothing to be learned. If he has done his homework, then he's just not very good at reading games of football. The second is that Warnock hasn't done his homework, because he's not been in the door long enough (or he doesn't feel it's a worthwhile exercise like above). In that case, it takes a spectacularly ignorant human not to ask the people around you at the club what has worked and failed and exactly why. My opinion is that he'll have asked Leven for a good overview of what works. He's either not listened to any of that and done his own thing, or Leven and others at the club are absolutely clueless, or frightened to give an opinion. Either way, it lacked professionalism and they certainly got the message from the fans last night. I think this sums up what my issue was with signing Warnock until the end of season. He's here for a really short time with zero experience of the game. Nobody who has been watching Scottish football this season would have made those errors last night. Similarly @tlg1903's point about Warnock being here on a jolly absolutely rang true. He's clearly either not done the work required, or deferred that authority to someone else until he gets up to speed. It was a completely unprofessional performance. There is absolutely no credit due for the early changes either (Robson wouldn't have had us three down, we'd have to go back to Goodwin versus Hibs for anything like last night). It maybe wasn't clear on red TV, but the hostility at the ground was immense (there was fighting in the RDS, but that was down to a Motherwell fan in corporate). It was probably the most toxic I've seen it since losing to the Hun in that game under Goodwin. The fourth goal was coming too, and I think Morris would have subbed himself, given how frightened he looked when he accidentally got the ball once after coming out of hiding from behind his marker. There was literally no choice but make a sub. It did bring a great light hearted moment though. I thought it was fairly obvious we were making a double change, but clearly most of the ground were unaware, so when the board went up with Polvara's number and not Morris' the crowd went mental thinking he might be staying on. I don't know how they choose the order when making a double sub (maybe it was the fourth official having a laugh), but they should perhaps take note for future to make sure that you always take the horrendously shite player off first. I'm certain a couple of heart attacks could be avoided in future.

Obviously, the correct answer is "who gives a fuck?" but is not the same as the rule for the attacker: It has to be a part of the body that you can play the ball with? The defender can't defend the ball with his elbow. Or some shite. Offside is now a rule for childish dickheads anyway, it no longer exists as a functional part of the game of football, it's actually an independent game in and of itself, just like handball.

Well that was a interesting game, that VAR did its best to suck all life out of. Seriously though, who the fuck is working at our club and not having a word with Warnock before that pish? More importantly, has he done zero research between arriving here and today? I heard part of his interview after the bonnyrigg game where he praised Morris' workrate, and I knew straight away he'd be starting him tonight. What I didn't expect was him playing fucking wing back. I think he's a fucking awful player, but for a manager to hang him out to dry like that is unforgivable, and to have nobody at the club with the balls to tell Warnock he was making a massive fucking mistake just reeks. Just shows you that his "95% man management" is utter horse shite, as there wasn't five percent difference before and after formation changes, and you'd need 400% man management in order to justify including Morris on the bench. Anyway, I was surprised by the number of folk having a direct go at Warnock (it was deserved, I'm just surprised that so many folk were placing the blame at his door so early in his stint). He made the obvious changes though, deciding that playing every fucking player out of position was probably not best and reverting back to what has worked - and it did, for the most part. People might say that it was good management to make changes early in the game, but the crowd were literally screaming at him and basically booing Morris' every touch. He had absolutely no choice, and actually took too long to make the subs. They were fucking awful and once we started playing we completely dominated and they spent the entire second half time wasting, with a weak as fuck ref watching on. Ten minutes of VARing about was just soul destroying. It's got to go. Great to see Duk get a couple, but he must be so frustrating to play with. He offered zero out ball to MacKenzie all night and dicks about with it so often in places where if he loses it, we're fucked. He probably gets man of the match though, just for coming on for Morris. One further notable point is that everything was very direct again. That could have been because we were chasing it, but even at 3-3 we were lumping every free kick in from every angle and the long throw was in constant use. It's not going to be pretty under Warnock that's for sure.

Morris at centre half I'm guessing.

I wonder if there's ever been a satisfactory response to that question? If he said "yes, at the age of six months, my mother - who had been suffering from deep depression, after finding out my dad had been seeing someone else, and had turned to alcohol - accidentally (although it could never be proven) knocked me off the table, where she'd been changing my nappy, onto a stone floor. I spent six weeks in a coma and a further year in intensive care, before finally being released into foster care.", you'd look and feel like a right dick. If he says "no, shut your cunting face" then you're also no further forward. It's just a very poor line of questioning.

Has he actually said it since coming here? I quite like it. It's better than Robson's catchphrase: "frustrated".

Aye, this one will be the proper test of his wits, albeit pissing with the cock he's got. Gartenmann has to start if fit. Interestingly, MacDonald was moved into left centre half when Jensen went off, despite probably being poorer with the ball and Gartenmann playing there previously, I wonder if he'll stick with that if Jensen isn't fit. I would expect McGrath to be back in, Clarkson further forward, Barron in (despite being poor) and maybe Hayes in for Duk. That means Polvara, Duk and Morris out, which would be no significant loss. To be honest, the team pretty much picks itself at the moment, with the only uncertainty being whether Doohan keeps his spot.

I think we'll get a hefty fee regardless of what Warnock says. There's no way the sort of club who are looking at Miovski are relying on what a manager says. In fact, I don't actually know what "Warnock raising his profile" actually involves or means. I think that takes away from the excellent job the club have done to date on scouting the player, hugely improving him and signing him on a lengthy contract. Plus the obvious work the player has done himself. Those are the things that will have already put him on the radar of many clubs. That's not to say Warnock won't get even more out of him before the summer of course. I wouldn't be surprised if he does.

Nope, you've misunderstood. I was responding to a post asking why people might be aggrieved at Warnock signing. I was giving those reasons. My own thinking is that I'm okay with Warnock himself (I actually quite like him), just disappointed in the club who sold us a strategy for the last three years.

You've read anger in my comment where none exists.

That about sums it up. Really shite game. One of the biggest disappointments was the lack of urgency in that second half. I felt a bit sorry for Duncan and Phillips who came on and seemed like they might want to play a game and go on and score, while the guys that had been on from the start like MacDonald, Jensen, Devlin and McKenzie just kept slowing the game down, taking fucking ages over throw ins and the like. We got that a lot under McInnes. When Warnock came here talking about fun, I assumed he'd deal with shite like that. It's an entertainment game, and we had won the game, he should have been screaming at that back line to play the fucking game and not attempt game fucking management against a fourth tier team. Nobody who watched that pish will be returning in a hurry. As you say, Polvara is a squad player. It baffles me that people were suggesting he was some sort of midfield genius after a meaningless friendly against Frankfurt. He doesn't do the yards, take chances or make tackles, he's just an average squad player. Morris is dogshit and Duk has given up the game of football. Jensen and MacDonald are a terrible pairing. Laboured as fuck. Gartenmann came on and immediately took the ball into the opposition half and looked for a pass, showing at least a small slither of urgency (although he did slice it out of play too!). Sokler was poor, and too interested in playing his man and not the ball. Duncan tried things but was just a bit too rushed in everything. Anyway, Warnock cannot afford to fuck about with these guys, he doesn't have the time. He needs to pick a couple that he might be able to work with and bring something to their game and sideline the rest. I'd probably persist with Polvara and Duncan (only cause he came through the youth), ditch Morris, Duk and MacDonald and only play when injury requires it. I think Jensen needs replaced in the summer too. Special mention to Phillips for running around like a mentalist, but he needs to play furthest from defence possible, as he's not really a footballer.

He has banned phones from the dressing room though.

He's a joke figure down South, a John Hughes. However, because we're in pathetic thrall to everything English fitba, he's massive celebrity news up here, it's cringey as fuck. He's deemed old school and obnoxious. There's a lot not to like about the guy. I specifically don't like the fact that he goes against everything we strategised (supposedly) for the last three years and is a huge step backwards in that regard, possibly even risking alienating players and staff that we might want here next year. However, I realised that with the consultant bollocks, our strategy wasn't actually a strategy at all, simply a bunch of words on a presentation, so I don't think Warnock will be upsetting much. I liked his opening interview and his thoughts about the game. I wasn't particularly enamoured by the time it took to make changes and the changes made against the Hun. I can completely see why people don't like him, but I'm happy enough for the short time that remains. I find his appointment shows a complete lack of competence by our board. It reminds me of the scene in Elf (the overplayed Christmas film) where the publisher asks his crack team of writers for new ideas and they suggest hiring another writer, who'll have better ideas. That is, of course, nothing to do with Warnock.

Motherwell out to Morton in the first upset of the weekend. Would take Morton in the final.

Why is that not a frivolous appeal?

The biggest surprise of the season as Adams is punted.

Doubt it. They'll all have big data systems that govern their signing policies. If there was a Warnock style manager there that based their signing on gut feel and word of mouth, then possibly, but I suspect that there are few of those left. I'm certain that there are a few sides down there who are already keeping a close eye on him. The only way Warnock will influence things, is if he makes him a better player. Although given that Bojan seems to be improving himself on a continuing basis, it might be a little unfair to credit Warnock.

I agreed It's alright to pretend to be a Morton fan when you're really a Hun, but don't actually support them.

It's a shame, he's gone downhill quicker than Joe Lewis. For me the second was unlucky, he reacted to a good swerving shot, but the first goal was completely his fault, and he had at least one other punch that went straight through the box. Coupled with the pathetic attempt at a punch against the Tims where he nearly got lobbed, it's not looking good for him. It looks like nerves to be honest. He's lost all confidence, it's horrible to watch. I'm assuming doohan is absolutely gash.

Ah well. Better team won. Bit harsh to blame Roos for the second, it was a fair strike from their midfielder, unchallenged too. Not sure he had the time to control the parry. Absolutely ludicrous that the ref was asked to check the red, who the fuck was VAR? Fair play to Robertson for sticking to his guns, completely put under pressure by the incompetent Huns on VAR, just no fucking need. I wouldn't have complained if one of ours had been sent off for that, it was reckless and at speed. Anyway, McKenzie was very good tonight, Gartenmann too, and of course Miovski. Thought Phillips did alright when he came on, the rest didn't get into it. Not embarrassing, but not much we can read into it either.

Jesus, that was a poor half from the Dons, but who gives a fuck when you've got Bojan up front. What a striker. Better than any Hun out there tonight. They've looked good, better than the Tims. Terrible goalkeeping for the goal, his hands are in fists to try and palm it out, just all wrong. We've given them far too much time and space, a bit like the first half on Saturday. Hopefully we'll have the same attitude in the second half here as we did then. It'll be interesting to see how they react and if the Dons come out more fired up.

As expected, Hayes in. Looks like a 4-2-3-1, with McGrath right and Hayes left. Unless he's going to invert the wide players, which sounds like something he might do. Should win this by a couple.

Be an interesting lineup tonight I expect. I reckon he'll start Gueye, and maybe Hayes. He won't like weak lads like Polvara and Morris.

In fairness, the last guy got the whole windae and preparations are hopefully done in advance. The biggest disappointment is that we missed the cost saving opportunity for him to get a taxi from the airport with Warnock.