RicoS321

In and out of the box isn't ever put down to clear and obvious though, just like offside. They always make an exact call (if they can) because it isn't subjective. That's why the ref wasn't required to go to the monitor, as it's either in or out. The only time clear and obvious comes into play is whether it was a foul or not. You think it might not have been, I think it was. Either way, it wasn't a clear and obvious error by the ref, and he gave the foul. There's no way they could have overturned that. Nor should they. Yes and no. I don't remember them having a shot on target in the second half, and the best chance, by some distance, fell to us. They didn't create much at all, and basically looked like we do when playing well and a stuffy team comes to pittodrie. They were actually fairly devoid of ideas. For a team lacking in confidence, we battled hard and were definitely going home with three points before Devlin intervened. I don't think they deserved to win, but we can have no complaints that they did!

In fairness, they weren't questioning the foul, just where the contact took place. It shouldn't take three minutes, but I guess when it comes to objective calls like "in or out", you can perhaps understand them taking a bit more time to be certain. It was fairly clearly in, I'd say. The foul itself was never really in question either, Devlin throws his leg into the guy to try and buy a freekick and gets it all wrong, bringing him down. I expect Warnock to cut his balls off, it was fucking terrible play. Again, in fairness, I think Roos realises he's stepped a mile off his line and just sorting of falls over. He really should be better at pens though, given the number we concede.

You're back to discuss Bojan are you? Devlin sold the shirts. Tried to be clever and win a freekick when he easily had the winning of that ball. Just needed to boot it. They weren't scoring otherwise.

Fucking hell.

As does Devlin. Definite pen.

I stand corrected. Good work Warnock. McGarry upfield, unless we're (hopefully not) switching to a back three.

Warnock very slow with subs, like all managers these days. I'd have Duk off, maybe Polvara on. Or McGrath.

Also, dogshit coverage from Red TV.

I think so, but it's been okay. The away team and massively lacking in confidence, they're just not keen to do anything at all risky. That's fine, get them in at half time and get them calmed down and work on it in the second half. Would like to see more from Hoilett. Not sure he's that great, but it's good to have that wide position not getting dragged in too often. McGrath should be an option there shortly, but that'll sacrifice width. Duk giving a lot of space to Tanser on the other side too, but we've defended really well in our box. Phillips doing okay, his workrate is very good, we're just unlikely to get anything good from him on the ball.

I should turn it on late more often. Looks like a good conventional 4-2-3-1, which is nice to see. Jensen at left back is probably better than Jensen at centre half. Not sure about Philips in terms of ability, but simple instructions to stay high and press and he'll be fine. A good start.

No we don't. Close thread. Nothing to see here. The season ended, we finished a respectable eighth.

Nice work seabass. Very good.

Because he was pish.

That was a fucking disgrace tonight. Once again the clueless fud dicks about with the formation and approach (I'm assuming he recently watched the "the one where Barry plays Milne at right wing back" video and thought that that'd be the repeat mistake he'd go for tonight). After hanging our only striker out to dry at the weekend, he decides a back three should be a laugh to raise the confidence of those lads. Congest our midfield? Why not. Pass marks for Shinnie tonight, the rest were, to a man, absolutely dogshite. We're regressing at a phenomenal pace. As @wee toon red says, this is Butcheresque. We're in serious danger here. We have to pull the trigger on the manager. I'll drive the cunt to the station (and by that, I mean into the sea).

The charlatan has to go now. He's not up to it and we'll end up relegated if we don't act. He's not taking it seriously, and shouldn't be here. He obviously thought he could just turn up and wing it. What a fucking embarrassment. He's taking the piss out of our club and every Dons fan.

We neither have the option to not give Warnock a chance, nor the time to give him a chance. The entire point in Warnock is the immediate reaction, that's what he does. That's what Robson did last season. If we don't get the bounce, then we have nothing with Warnock, as he very much said himself with his "not my type of team" comment. The way we beat St Johnstone is by being better at football than them. Moving the ball quickly, getting it through the midfield quickly, drawing them out and dragging them around. In other words, avoid the majority of the physical battle, apart from in the one or two areas that those things matter, where we've got enough between Shinnie, Devlin, MacKenzie, Gartenmann that we can be aggressive in winning the ball back. It's about not playing to the strengths of a more physical team by fucking about with long throws, long punts, free kicks punted into the box from our own half and running away from the goalie with your back to him so he's got nobody to release. The exact opposite of the Kilmarnock game. If Warnock's experience doesn't lead him towards a different way of winning football games, then he's clearly not good enough, and his comments were bordering on unforgivable. We're missing the presence of Rubezic a lot more than expected it has to be said. Is there any suggestion as to when he might return?

This only furthers my belief that gyms are for weirdos.

This sounds very good (apart from the Clement bit), but what does building a legacy actually mean? Is it attainable in Scottish football, with its small, tight, league and trigger happy chairmen? Is there a single example of it in Scottish football? Surely, if legacy is our goal, then the manager is only a small part of that, and what happens behind the scenes is far more important (any really good manager will leave within a couple of seasons)? For me, Cormack was right to identify strong, independent, roles for recruitment, youth development, sports science etc, all under the handle of a knowledgeable director with a clear strategy. The execution was massively flawed of course. Incompetent, I'd say. As for the Scandinavian coaches, what specifically is it they're offering that coaches in Scotland aren't? Is it just timing, in that there happen to be a few good ones whilst there's slim pickings here just now? More specifically, what is it with regard to legacy building that they're doing? Are they making sustained progress (or not significantly regressing), or are they just flavour of the Scandi moment, in the same way Robinson might get binned for a poor start next season? Is it the managers' approach that's making the difference or are the clubs themselves the ones creating the environment for success? In other words, is there any evidence that those clubs will continue to be successful once giants like the Dons swoop in and steal their manager (legacy)? McInnes' relative success at Killie has been down to a sustained team over the past few seasons, simply swapping in and out known quantities (Findlay, for example, was a far better signing than any of our centre backs) to gradually improve them season by season. We've had three seasons of 10+ transfers in the summer and January loanees, resulting in our errors just being carried forward. McInnes has been backed by his club, basically.

We've certainly got the chairman to make that happen.

A direct conduit to and from Cormack, aka a yes man. I think he's there to form a barrier, and not to have ideas of his own. Or, he has ideas and is heavily involved, but is simply pish at his job. It's fairly clear that the director of football was a really important role for the way we structured the club post McInnes. It's failed to assist three inexperienced managers and has overseen a total mess in recruitment.

Aye, heard his fucking atrocious interview. "Not really his kind of team"? That's Derek Adams shite that is. Didn't do his research, he should leave now before he fucks off the whole team and drags us (further) into a relegation battle. If he can't get a team to play actual football, rather than kick people then he's not suitable.

Which city?

Just as you say, I expect him to come in and either do his homework or, instead, speak to those already there and run things by them (such as: have we ever created a single chance from a long throw or massive punt free kick). Cormack has been sold on the idea that he's some managerial giant that will bring the entire team together and inspire them to battle, without regard to tactics (95% man management apparently). He's the wrong guy at the wrong time. Robson didn't struggle with motivation, it was tactical ineptitude, so to get a pure motivation guy in was ridiculous.

It's the sign of a guy who has come in and not done his fucking homework. Long punts for every free kick and tactics that have proven not to work all season. I think we (Cormack, specifically) has been sold a charlatan with Warnock like.

Shouldn't have turned it on! Fuck is Warnock watching?