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That's clearly ridiculous though, in a team sport. You don't just throw all your best players on and hope that it works. We've been trying to accommodate players all season instead of playing our best eleven as a team. Duncan wasn't amazing last night, but he occupied a position and held that position, just like Polvara did against Hibs. The only way you accommodate Clarkson and Barron (that I've seen working) is in a 4-2-3-1, with Barron and Shinnie sitting and Clarkson in behind Miovski. However, that comes at the expense of McGrath, which none of us would likely go for at present, and it's also not a formation to be playing against a good team away. What happens otherwise was perfectly illustrated in the Hibs game (and multiple times when Goodwin tried to play Barron out of position). Clarkson played out wide, tiring himself out and having zero impact on the game, dropping deep and getting in Barron's way unsettling the shape of the entire midfield in an attempt to get involved and do what he does best. As soon as we switched it, the balance was regained and Clarkson suddenly finds his passing ability and ball retention, bringing Shinnie to life at the same time (who was also getting absolutely knackered chasing the game). When Clarkson or Barron are out of position, they lose all the qualities that make them the players they are. By playing Clarkson out wide right, you're not actually getting Clarkson, you're getting a significantly worse player - one who doesn't bring the discipline required to the role (and nor should he). Luckily he can interchange with both Barron and McGrath (depending on McGrath's role) and all three are going to get plenty of minutes between them. It's weird, we always seem to want a better squad, but then when we get that we also want our best players playing every single week rather than rotate. I feel sorry for Robson, as a new coach, it's something we haven't had in such a blatant manner in such an important position before (see Duk and Miovski too). I think the reason that we didn't see Clarkson last night was specifically for that rotation purpose, and we'll see Barron drop to the bench. That's good management in my opinion. Miovski will be an interesting one. He looked a little tentative when he came on last night. Keen to chase in a straight line, but didn't really challenge for anything or put his body into anything. I was half expecting to see him go down with a recurrence, but hopefully he was just being cautious. Duk did very well, especially his positional discipline (and goal, obviously), but Miovski is definitely the guy you want at the Tim dome.

It was probably Chelsea fans

In fairness to craigan, it sounded like he was supporting us and getting nervous that we might lose a stupid goal. He does talk as if he was Baresi himself, a bit like listening to Gerd Muller (Cowan) on Red TV.

It was great that TNT Sports sent McInnes and McCoist over to cover our game though. A valuable asset to our game.

Great performance, really disciplined. Robson got it spot on tonight with the line up and changes.

I've no idea what happened last night, but there's no way that was a sending off. It is possible to stand on people in a fast paced game of fitba. McGrath goes in at a weird angle and the guy accidentally stand on him. VAR should be binned either way of course.

Check your messages. Apologies, didn't notice the reply.

Got one! Just missed the goal of course.

anyone got the necessary watching details? Can't find a working one

Looks like a 3-4-3, with Duncan and Duk either side of McGrath

Then the players refuse to play. Or we just continue to lie down to the scum and pretend that there's nothing physical possible on earth we can do. Forever.

They probably looked at the price of our European fixtures and realised that us Dons fans are willing to pay a fortune too. I'd love to see the club be a bit more forceful here. Put out a statement advising fans not to buy until the opportunity of parity is offered.

And so they should be. It's ridiculous that they're still being let down so badly by the rest of Scottish fitba, that they end up getting horsed in Europe.

There is a good chance we can sell out a 50:50 allocation versus the scum (especially if we get a good result against them at Pittodrie at the end of the month), and so anything less is unfair. What I expect they'll do, is sell the tickets incrementally again, and then give the Hun the remainder. However this is also unfair. At the weekend, we had the North stand, the end, but also a chunk of the South too. Both the North and South offer significantly better views of the game, and so we should be offered an equal share of the best possible tickets. I've mentioned before, but I've never understood why they don't sell Hampden tickets along the pitch, rather than by end (tradition: Huns v Tims I expect). That way both sides get a good share of the best available tickets.

No, I'm the opposite. I believe that a thread should be started for each match, but some heathen downgraded our League Cup winning run to a single thread at the beginning of the tournament, and I think that they should be forced to live with that decision for the rest of their lives. An equivalent would be a conference league thread.

Why is the answer to be consistent in the wrong direction? Just don't give the three free kicks outside the box.

But then, if Rubezic is off to spurs, who would our project be? A manager needs a shite player that they can turn into a slightly less shite player, and then give them a longer contract than they deserve, then the fans begin to feel sorry for him and at the end of the deal a few of them begin to question whether or not we should just give them another year's contract. Surely Richardson or Morris can be good to have about the place?

I would too. Morris is as good as he can get, he'll never reach the dizzying heights of a Matty Kennedy. Richardson is fast and has physical attributes that offer a huge potential for improvement. If he wasn't shite at football, obviously. He suits our setup better too, I'm surprised he wasn't offered the opportunity to be worked on instead of Morris. Edit: he's not actually started yet for Stockport! Maybe it's possible that they're both just shite.

Poor man's Pape Gueye.

A double Hun header? Should be fun.

Have St Johnstone got any strikers worth taking? They'll all be available in January when Levein joins.

Like summer, I really hope we get rid of a few. Besuijen, Dadia and the Liverpool lad need binned. You're right about Devlin, but I think Robson will see Morris as the answer. There are enough games in which we can afford an attacking wing back and give Devlin a rest. I'd like to see another left centre back to push Jensen. I don't think he's that good. I don't think he's that bad either! Baccus is a good shout. Will weaken St Mirren in the race for third! If we can get £250k for Duk, then we should consider cashing in.

He played well yesterday and it wouldn't actually surprise me. He has the physical attributes of a good defender but is lacking in experience and the confidence on the ball that comes with that. Whilst I don't think he'll ever make it at their level (and maybe not even ours), I could see why a team might take a punt on several defenders in his mould, loan them out and hope that with experience one might make the grade. It wasn't so long ago that Jack Hendry was in a similar situation at the Tim. It's clear to see that Gartenmann is a better defender for example, but he's at his peak both physically and in experience and that's our level. Again, I'm far from convinced that Rubezic will ever fulfill the potential, but there is a hint of potential, which will be enough for the scattergun approach from EPL billionaires.

I'd like to see an end to bollocks like that (and we've had several over the last few years) ever being considered a pen. When did we get to that point? It's a contact sport. If a defender beat an attacker (sliding in) to the ball, booting it out for a corner and then falling over his already outstretched leg, it wouldn't be a foul. Everyone would be congratulating the defender on a good tackle. Why does beating the keeper to the ball and deliberately falling over him make for a better sport? Again, this is the product of two decades of television fitba and its horseshite replays, and the lack of context it brings. The ref, who had a good game, was up with the play can see what happened and the context in which it happened in real time - which was a player blasting the ball away whilst falling over with the sole intention of winning a penalty. Telling them to get up and get on with it is exactly the right call. Similarly the Miovski one. A guy through on goal who only had one thing on his mind and that was to wait for a touch and try and win a penalty. Everyone in the stadium, even the most partisan of Dons fans, could see that is what he decided and tried to do and the ref saw it too - in real time, and in context of the unfolding situation. Nobody needs VAR, or endless replays to "see if there was a touch" or any other bullshit. It's a fucking contact sport Miovski, you need to be finishing those chances. With VAR (and it was going this way long before) we risk rewarding this type of behaviour and encouraging more of it. It used to be called out as diving and unsporting, but we've moved to a position where we're now saying "well everyone else does it". Exactly the type of thinking that has brought us VAR. Thankfully VAR did exactly the right thing in both instances. They knew that the referee hadn't missed something in both instances, he saw exactly what happened, and they judged that his viewing of the situation in context wasn't clearly and obviously wrong. Of course clear and obvious has no definition as OD points out. It simply moves the point of controversy onto what constitutes clear and obvious. I should add, that I know I don't speak for most people on this subject, and I'm not remotely interested in what people think should be a penalty because "that's the way things are these days" and "everyone does it". I'm interested from the perspective of what makes a sport a sport, and what is just. I also know that people buying fouls and penalties is part of the game, and I'm not stupid enough to think it will change, but I think that every football fan should have an interest in seeing unsporting behaviour removed from the game and find it weird that partisanship makes us claim for something where we know a player has deliberately manufactured the incident. The more of these incidents that go against the supposed victim the better in my opinion.

You're right, it was your fault. Clarkson was always going to come deep and it looked like Robson didn't really mind, thinking that we could fluidly switch Barron and Clarkson throughout, which we couldn't. The congestion was inevitable and it was fairly clear that it would be. What it also did was make each midfielder do twice the work on the big Hampden pitch during a period of heavy fixture congestion, and we nearly paid a price for it. The other issue is that if you try and get Clarkson to play with the discipline required in that shape (i.e. not to come deep), then it nullifies the best parts of his game. It might have been coincidence that we had a good spell of possession between Polvara coming on and McKenzie being sent off (really not enough time to validate), but Clarkson immediately became involved in the game in a good sense and I doubt the disciplined lines of four when we went to ten would have been possible with Clarkson wide right. Barron or Clarkson are the fresh legs we need to come on and win us games when one or the other is failing, or McGrath is struggling (Clarkson can play the forward midfield role in a 4-2-3-1 on his own very well if we need to keep him and Barron on). It's harsh on Barron, but not as harsh as having him start in a poor setup and playing crap for 60 minutes. We've got two fantastic young players who we can rotate in and out without much loss of ability, it's exactly the type of squad rotation we've been crying out for. As an aside to Panda's aside, I genuinely didn't give a fuck whether their goal was offside or not by the time it was disallowed. Three and a half minutes to draw lines? It was a good goal, deserved and a result of poor defending (nobody claimed for offside so it wasn't like it was a deliberate trap), that should have stood. Offside by a shoulder has never been a thing in the history of fitba, it's absolute garbage. The shitey fake panto of winding up the opposition when they get their goal disallowed is cringey as fuck, and I was basically waiting for our goal to be disallowed for a foul in the build up. It reeks of pish.