OrlandoDon Posted July 21 Author Share Posted July 21 29 minutes ago, redordead said: I would give mcgarry the season. Guy moved across the world and will have taken time to adjust. He has a bit of something and a big bit of naivity. A solid game plan should improve that. I said it in the other thread, I don't think shinnie should be an automatic fixture in the team. People keep saying he's a winner but he was over run at East Kilbride and was involved in some big failures last year as our leader. I can confess that he also had some great games but he should always set the tempo and too often it's found lacking. Jimmy needs to bring in some winners to give the squad a bit of a kick up the ass this year. As I’ve said already, I think adding allan Campbell would give a good competitive edge to our center mid. Sivert and shinnie will both be 33 soon, injuries, suspensions, volume of games, and form all a factor. We cannot rely I those two for every game. Agree with the McGrath comment, he’s no holding mid and no a solution there. giving JT time is not just to assess, you can’t simply punt 6 players immediately, takes time. Although, we saw Morris play left mid for the first time and lovely touch and goal. He’s still poor though. i don’t think mcgarry has been given a good run but Mackenzie has kicked on and he’s our left back. Jensen can play multiple positions including left back and offers more flexibility than mcgarry. It’s a numbers game and mcgarry becomes expendable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reekie_Red Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 On 22/07/2024 at 02:03, RicoS321 said: I think Leven especially deserves a bit of trust and we should be speeding up the process to offload them. For me, that part is more important than the new signings. Maybe JT is using Levens knowledge of the squad. I would certainly hope he is, given he is the only coach left who has seen this squad from 1 yr ago and has seen how they've played under both Robson and Warnock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicoS321 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 1 hour ago, Reekie_Red said: Maybe JT is using Levens knowledge of the squad. I would certainly hope he is, given he is the only coach left who has seen this squad from 1 yr ago and has seen how they've played under both Robson and Warnock Maybe, but it doesn't seem that way. Leven didn't give the guys mentioned a look in when he was manager (obviously besuijen was away), so I think he'll have made it clear to Thelin. I'm not expecting him to have shifted all players on, but given the number of guys that aren't up to standard in that squad, I'd have expected to see things moving by now. We need at least a couple of those guys starting to be shifted out the door. It's just extra work having to deal with a large squad, and hassle a new manager doesn't need, he needs to be looking to build going forward rather than deal with yesterday's dross. A new manager can get maybe 5-10% extra out of a player by playing them in a different way, or other motivation, but he's not turning 5-6 guys who are nowhere near good enough into players. I really hope there is no expectation on him to be getting something out of these guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jute Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 I think we will have to accept that squad cannot be change over one summer due to the imbalance created over a number of poor windows. However I would like to think there will be some leeway to address some of the issues without moving on all of the dross/selling Miovski first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 I still maintain that Miovski fucking loves being a Dandy. Stick a 5 year contract under his nose with 10 grand a week and a £15 million release clause and I reckon he signs it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxfordDon Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 15 minutes ago, Slim said: I still maintain that Miovski fucking loves being a Dandy. Stick a 5 year contract under his nose with 10 grand a week and a £15 million release clause and I reckon he signs it. You hold him down, I'll get the pen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reekie_Red Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 13 hours ago, Slim said: I still maintain that Miovski fucking loves being a Dandy. Stick a 5 year contract under his nose with 10 grand a week and a £15 million release clause and I reckon he signs it. I see the Currant Buns are still sniffing about thinking they can sign him. No fucking way. You can see him last season in particular, he loves being a Dandy. If/when he moves, it won't be to either of the Ugly Sisters ... even if they meet our valuation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 8 hours ago, Reekie_Red said: I see the Currant Buns are still sniffing about thinking they can sign him. No fucking way. You can see him last season in particular, he loves being a Dandy. If/when he moves, it won't be to either of the Ugly Sisters ... even if they meet our valuation Which they won't Would rather spunk £8 million on someone from another league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jute Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 Old firm would never give that sort of money to another Scottish Club. No chance they risk one of us getting money that might allow us to challenge them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 13 minutes ago, Jute said: Old firm would never give that sort of money to another Scottish Club. No chance they risk one of us getting money that might allow us to challenge them. My point previously, even though I didn't say it in as many words Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 If true, he's 19, so probably someone to sit in our U20s for a couple of seasons before being loaned to Montrose, then released. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 7 hours ago, Panda said: If true, he's 19, so probably someone to sit in our U20s for a couple of seasons before being loaned to Montrose, then released. Saw this on X yesterday, but really wasn't sure of the legitimacy of it, so didn't share. Really not sure of the level of league football in Ghana to be honest, but he seems to be a first team regular for his club and has had a call up to his countries international team, so potentially might have something about him. Sure Jimmy has previous, of unearthing players from the African continent in the past. Could potentially, prove to be an interesting one if true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlg1903 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 6 minutes ago, BigAl said: Saw this on X yesterday, but really wasn't sure of the legitimacy of it, so didn't share. Really not sure of the level of league football in Ghana to be honest, but he seems to be a first team regular for his club and has had a call up to his countries international team, so potentially might have something about him. Sure Jimmy has previous, of unearthing players from the African continent in the past. Could potentially, prove to be an interesting one if true. He absolutely does, there are few African players in the Elfsborg squad and he moved a few on last window too I believe. Re Miovski, cormack would only sell to the ugly sisters if they made an offer too good to turn down (so 10 mill or above I would say) which they are never going to pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 2 hours ago, BigAl said: Really not sure of the level of league football in Ghana to be honest, Call yourself a football fan? Surely everyone has a favourite Ghanaian team? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicoS321 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 1 hour ago, Panda said: Call yourself a football fan? Surely everyone has a favourite Ghanaian team? Exactly, typical of the lazy older generations. For what it's worth, I think that the Ghanian league is in the top five leagues along the gulf of Guinea coast. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 2 hours ago, Panda said: Call yourself a football fan? Indeed I do, but you can call me Al. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 1 hour ago, BigAl said: Indeed I do, but you can call me Al. BigAl na ɛwɔ hɔ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrlandoDon Posted July 25 Author Share Posted July 25 Been thinking about our left side. I think McGrath ahead of Mackenzie works. McGrath has a tendency to cut inside and Mackenzie is an attacking full back who wants to get forward. And does pretty well at it. I still think my preference is to sign a legit left winger but I’m good if we don’t. right, on the other hand, without doubt were need to sign a right midfielder/right winger. i guess we have over a month until the window closes so should be patient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wee toon red Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 I’d still like to see Hoilett back when he’s fit. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that we were a much better team with him in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrlandoDon Posted July 26 Author Share Posted July 26 58 minutes ago, wee toon red said: I’d still like to see Hoilett back when he’s fit. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that we were a much better team with him in it. True. I’d just like to see us linked with players who aren’t central defenders. Been addicted to them in recent years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicoS321 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 1 hour ago, wee toon red said: I’d still like to see Hoilett back when he’s fit. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that we were a much better team with him in it. Yep, he's 347 times better than Shayden. Although it would also be nice to have a winger with some remaining pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elgindon Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 ^^That,and he's got a catchy wee song about him too. Are we waiting to assess his fitness before offering a new contract,or is he weighing up other options? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrlandoDon Posted July 26 Author Share Posted July 26 1 hour ago, Elgindon said: ^^That,and he's got a catchy wee song about him too. Are we waiting to assess his fitness before offering a new contract,or is he weighing up other options? I assumed he was offered and he’s looking for other options. As much as it was a successful spell, he was warnock’s guy and maybe only agreed a brief stint to be with his old gaffer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 22 minutes ago, OrlandoDon said: I assumed he was offered and he’s looking for other options. As much as it was a successful spell, he was warnock’s guy and maybe only agreed a brief stint to be with his old gaffer. To be honest, I wouldn't assume that at all at this moment in time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrlandoDon Posted July 26 Author Share Posted July 26 5 minutes ago, BigAl said: To be honest, I wouldn't assume that at all at this moment in time Please elaborate! Season finished two months ago and Thelin has been here or involved long enough to give input. A preseason and these cup games would benefit him rather than come in less fit having missed the preseason, so why isn’t he here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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