Aberdeen v Dunfermline

[OxfordDon]

who's yer Pape

1-0

[JessianK]

About time !!! 

 

was getting worried there

 

[OrlandoDon]

28 minutes ago, redordead said:

Working the ball wide well but delivery not great. 

Keskinen is rotten.

Disagree, despite form and confidence keskinen works his balls off. Doesn’t hide like Morris for example. Once he gets a goal I think he’ll turn form around.

[OrlandoDon]

And I’m liking Jensen too, works his balls off and doesn’t hide either. With confidence and form I think he comes good.

good goal and good play from topi with the assist.

[Panda]

16 minutes ago, OrlandoDon said:

Disagree, despite form and confidence keskinen works his balls off. Doesn’t hide like Morris for example. Once he gets a goal I think he’ll turn form around.

Yeah, agree. For that second goal, he's drifted to the left (as he often does), linked up with Okkels, and it's his ball that finds Jensen (although an exceptional dummy by Nisbet ). 

He's raw, but his movement like that makes him a nightmare to defend against, a bit like Pape. 

 

[OrlandoDon]

I think IF we did form this attacking 3 with the new 9 could be a handful.

[tlg1903]

Bloody hell Kevin

[OxfordDon]

I feel for Nisbet, but that must be the beginning of the end of his time here.

[OrlandoDon]

1 minute ago, tlg1903 said:

Bloody hell Kevin

I can do that. Perhaps there’s hope for me as an Aberdeen 9 after all.

[tlg1903]

oh FFS

[tlg1903]

1 minute ago, OxfordDon said:

I feel for Nisbet, but that must be the beginning of the end of his time here.

agreed on both counts

 

[OrlandoDon]

Good for kev. The other chance was a little too far out, and a tight angle, that will help his confidence.

Edited February 9 by OrlandoDon

[OxfordDon]

12 minutes ago, OxfordDon said:

I feel for Nisbet, but that must be the beginning of the end of his time here.

Spoke too soon?  3-0 Nisbet, and you didn't need any great lipreading skills to read the loud "thank fuck!" he shouted to the heavens (and the cameras) afterwards.

Edited February 9 by OxfordDon

[OrlandoDon]

I’ll take that. Shutout too. Don’t agree with Steve Tosh, who thought was overly critical, given our form dunfermline came here with nothing to lose and had a go. We won, shutout, and got goals. Lots of changes and newer players, work in progress.

Jensen and topi did well, nice for gueye to get a goal. Palaversa is a weekly starter if you ask me.

thoughts on central defense??

 

[redordead]

Good win. 

Thought the starting eleven done well as did Morris when he came in. 

We looked weaker with shinnie and Clarkson towards the end ( though Dunfermline maybe had to have a go by then ). Thought palaversa was great in the first half and Nilsen looked to be in charge. As a result the team seemed organised and there was no sense of panic.

Despite a hideous miss, nesbit came alive in the box for the third. Not rocket science, if you put the ball in the danger zone, he'll get there. 

Great to have pape back too. 

Let's hope it's the start of a recovery.

[Panda]

Palaversa growing into his role; being the guy who drops into defence to make it a three, but also links the play in midfield and stretches it with long passes when it's getting too congested.

Nisbet, to be fair to him, gets into the right areas and actually could have had a hat-trick but for his fresh air swipe at Jensen's goal, and then his horror miss. I actually thought it was a good performance from him, but he's just lost his scoring touch. I wouldn't be trying to buy him just yet, but still interested to see how he gets on from now until summer, although Darragh will be here soon.

Something to think about now with Devlin or Jensen at right back. Jensen better going forward, Devlin better defensively. 
 

[tlg1903]

Good win against a stodgy side.  Here's hoping we can kick on from this.  
Points of note from me.  

Knoester looks solid and tidy with the ball, here's hoping him and Tobers get a run of games together.

If we could figure out a way of getting Gueye running onto the ball regularly he would start terrorising defences.  Balls into feet are not much use to him and I can't see it working as no 10 as a result.  That's not to say I don't think he can play centrally though, playing just off a striker and looking to run beyond him could be effective. 

Palaversa is really growing into the team now and whilst like Rico I wasn't convinced he was suited with Nilsen my fears on that are easing.  

Pleased to see Nisbet get a goal but I just don't think he suits Thelinball.  

Some finish from Jensen.  

[Slim]

Nilsen looked better after being rested, I think rotating him and Shinnie next to Palaversa is probably the best way to go.

[OrlandoDon]

6 minutes ago, Slim said:

Nilsen looked better after being rested, I think rotating him and Shinnie next to Palaversa is probably the best way to go.

Agree on this and that has to be the plan moving forward. Much like the whole team, we’ve got to stop with the endless chopping and changing for the most part, stick with palaversa and play the fresher of the old guys.

back 4, we’ve got three full back, give devlin a game or two more rest then play to form. Central two shouldn’t change unless injury. Attacking 3 from today should start weekly. New 9.

[RicoS321]

Just back, a nice afternoon. Never in any doubt, although we made a shite load of errors in that first half. Some decent performances. Nisbet played well despite his horrendous miss, and it definitely worked better for him having Gueye in there. I agree with @tlg1903 though, he needs the ball facing the goal. His touch was honking on numerous occasions, but his movement was excellent. Keskinen was okay, as others have said he works hard and doesn't stop looking for it despite his poor form. Not convinced by Okkels yet, he doesn't offer enough. MacKenzie was good and the new pairing at the back looks decent (noticeably shitter when Dorrington came on). Palaversa was decent, although still a bit weak in the tackle at times and gave it away a few times. Him and Nilsen were fine together. Despite his goal, I didn't think much of Jensen. Never tried to beat his man once, very hesitant and is very lightweight. I'm not quite sure why we've spent a relative fortune on a fullback who definitely can't play on the left, and is poorer than the existing right back. Whilst he might improve with game time, I don't see him being better than Devlin. He's technically good, but just looks like he'll only ever reach the heights of average. Strange one. He'll be good backup though. 

Hopefully we're onto a setup of some sort with the two up front. If we'd had McGrath on the left instead of Okkels, that'd be fairly potent. As it stands, I'd have Morris right and Keskinen left.

[OrlandoDon]

2 minutes ago, RicoS321 said:

Just back, a nice afternoon. Never in any doubt, although we made a shite load of errors in that first half. Some decent performances. Nisbet played well despite his horrendous miss, and it definitely worked better for him having Gueye in there. I agree with @tlg1903 though, he needs the ball facing the goal. His touch was honking on numerous occasions, but his movement was excellent. Keskinen was okay, as others have said he works hard and doesn't stop looking for it despite his poor form. Not convinced by Okkels yet, he doesn't offer enough. MacKenzie was good and the new pairing at the back looks decent (noticeably shitter when Dorrington came on). Palaversa was decent, although still a bit weak in the tackle at times and gave it away a few times. Him and Nilsen were fine together. Despite his goal, I didn't think much of Jensen. Never tried to beat his man once, very hesitant and is very lightweight. I'm not quite sure why we've spent a relative fortune on a fullback who definitely can't play on the left, and is poorer than the existing right back. Whilst he might improve with game time, I don't see him being better than Devlin. He's technically good, but just looks like he'll only ever reach the heights of average. Strange one. He'll be good backup though. 

Hopefully we're onto a setup of some sort with the two up front. If we'd had McGrath on the left instead of Okkels, that'd be fairly potent. As it stands, I'd have Morris right and Keskinen left.

Morris has zero courage. Plays well when there is no pressure but far too often hides. Found form when all was good but has disappeared far too much. A summer punt if you ask me. Oklels plays every week to see if he’s worth buying.

we needed a Jensen. And it costs as that type is hard to find. He’s not going to dominate any position and may come off the bench when others are on form, but he’ll do a job in multiple positions when needed. Like topi, he’ll step up and graft when needed, plus to be fair, is learning the Scottish game and has been thrown in at the deep end.

we have new players, players back from injury, players trying to find form, and our 9 not yet available. Based on today I’m optimistic.

[Panda]

1 hour ago, OxfordDon said:

Spoke too soon?  3-0 Nisbet, and you didn't need any great lipreading skills to read the loud "thank fuck!" he shouted to the heavens (and the cameras) afterwards.

[tlg1903]

I disagree about Jensen, I like his pace and constant desire to get forward and I think he will really grow into this team.  That's not to say he doesn't have areas to develop but he's 23 so of course he does.  I can certainly see why Thelin wanted him put it that way.  I think Keskinen will be fine as well btw.  For me his problem is far more decision making than ability.  

[RicoS321]

21 minutes ago, tlg1903 said:

I disagree about Jensen, I like his pace and constant desire to get forward and I think he will really grow into this team.  That's not to say he doesn't have areas to develop but he's 23 so of course he does.  I can certainly see why Thelin wanted him put it that way.  I think Keskinen will be fine as well btw.  For me his problem is far more decision making than ability.  

He's not particularly quick is he? I didn't see a constant desire to get forward in any of the games he has played so far, including today. MacKenzie and Devlin get beyond the winger far more often, and Devlin regularly charges into the box. Jensen certainly had a higher starting line than we are used to seeing (perhaps because we were playing Dunfermline), but he never actually beat his man and in the first half had multiple crosses blocked because he didn't advance the ball and chose to cross from deeper. I would agree that, at 23, he has plenty time for improvement, but I think there's a lot to improve. I agree, Keskinen will be fine.

40 minutes ago, OrlandoDon said:

we needed a Jensen. And it costs as that type is hard to find. He’s not going to dominate any position and may come off the bench when others are on form, but he’ll do a job in multiple positions when needed. Like topi, he’ll step up and graft when needed, plus to be fair, is learning the Scottish game and has been thrown in at the deep end.

So far, we could easily have picked up multiple players in Scotland who could do similar (obviously, with a large caveat that he could improve significantly). He doesn't look like he'll do a job in multiple positions at all. Too lightweight for midfield and wasn't particularly good at left back. He's clearly just a right back. Again, he's technically good, a nice, neat player, just not spectacular. With Milne returning, I'd rather see him as replacement for right back and right centre back. I think if we'd spent £50K on him, I'd be happy, it's really the price that is the issue. Hopefully I'm proven wrong. I'm struggling to see where he's not making the most of his attributes though.

[OrlandoDon]

19 minutes ago, RicoS321 said:

He's not particularly quick is he? I didn't see a constant desire to get forward in any of the games he has played so far, including today. MacKenzie and Devlin get beyond the winger far more often, and Devlin regularly charges into the box. Jensen certainly had a higher starting line than we are used to seeing (perhaps because we were playing Dunfermline), but he never actually beat his man and in the first half had multiple crosses blocked because he didn't advance the ball and chose to cross from deeper. I would agree that, at 23, he has plenty time for improvement, but I think there's a lot to improve. I agree, Keskinen will be fine.

So far, we could easily have picked up multiple players in Scotland who could do similar (obviously, with a large caveat that he could improve significantly). He doesn't look like he'll do a job in multiple positions at all. Too lightweight for midfield and wasn't particularly good at left back. He's clearly just a right back. Again, he's technically good, a nice, neat player, just not spectacular. With Milne returning, I'd rather see him as replacement for right back and right centre back. I think if we'd spent £50K on him, I'd be happy, it's really the price that is the issue. Hopefully I'm proven wrong. I'm struggling to see where he's not making the most of his attributes though.

Who could we have picked up in Scotland??