mizer Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/spl/aberdeen/2008/11/13/fans-must-give-derek-young-a-break-blasts-aberdeen-boss-jimmy-calderwood-86908-20891378/ IMMY CALDERWOOD last night called on the Aberdeen boo-boys to lay off Derek Young. The midfielder faces another battle to win over his critics after he was targeted throughout Tuesday's 2-0 SPL win over St Mirren at Pittodrie. Unhappy Aberdeen supporters even cheered when Young was eventually subbed. The episode is the latest setback for the player whose return to the Granite City in July last year, after his release from Partick Thistle, was met by protests from many of the Red Army. But 28-year-old Young, signed as a squad player, turned the jeers to cheers with his committed displays that helped the Dons reach the last 32 in the UEFA Cup. Calderwood said: "It was very disappointing certain fans took their frustrations out on Derek. "I felt sorry for him because he doesn't deserve it. He might have the odd bad game but never hides and always gives 100 per cent for the team. "I'm quite sure some of the fans who barracked him have bad days at work. Everyone does now and then. "I know what I'll get when he is in the team and he will never fail for lack of effort. I have never seen any player improve by being jeered by his own fans every time he touched the ball. "To get to where we want to go we need all our supporters united behind the team. We get that in away games with magnificent fans who back the players all the way and they have responded by getting results. It's rather sad this isn't the case at Pittodrie." Quote
boboisared Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 "To get to where we want to go we need all our supporters united behind the team. We get that in away games with magnificent fans who back the players all the way and they have responded by getting results. It's rather sad this isn't the case at Pittodrie." He's got a point there but on the whole Young was absolutely woeful on Tuesday, and apparently so on Saturday as well. Never heard him being booed though, just everyone cheering the fact he was finally being taken off. Quote
Andrew Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 He's got a point there but on the whole Young was absolutely woeful on Tuesday, and apparently so on Saturday as well. Never heard him being booed though, just everyone cheering the fact he was finally being taken off. Some cunts behind me where booing him the whole game then booed Maguire when he came on. Quote
boboisared Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 Some cunts behind me where booing him the whole game then booed Maguire when he came on. Cunts! Quote
TENEMENTFUNSTER Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 He's got a point there but on the whole Young was absolutely woeful on Tuesday, and apparently so on Saturday as well. Never heard him being booed though, just everyone cheering the fact he was finally being taken off. Aye, he was apparently pretty poor on Tuesday and wasn't any better on Saturday. However he has been much better than anticipated, in fact surprisingly good. Thing is, after a couple of shit games, would Aluko/Diamond/Smith get the same treatment? Would they fuck. Quote
BobbyBiscuit Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 "I felt sorry for him because he doesn't deserve it. He might have the odd bad game but never hides and always gives 100 per cent for the team. You can debate whether any player is deserving of that sort of stick, but Calderwood has to appreciate that fans aren't doing this just because they feel like it. They are doing it because it isn't just the "odd bad game". Whether he never hides and always gives 100% or not, is entirely irrelevant because he is so lacking in ability. He isn't good enough for us but seems to be bullet proof as far as JC is concerned. "I'm quite sure some of the fans who barracked him have bad days at work. Everyone does now and then. Very true statement. But if I performed as poorly as he does so regularly, I'd be out of a job. It's as simple as that. I know what I'll get when he is in the team and he will never fail for lack of effort I know what we'll get when he is in the team too... frustration and anxiety. Anyone who talks of any pro footballer in the terms of "he will never fail for lack of effort" is effectively saying "he's shit at football." He has had a few ok games, but he's still a poor signing, the fact he hasn't been quite as bad as we anticipated doesn't mean he's a good player or a good signing. Quote
boboisared Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 Aye, he was apparently pretty poor on Tuesday and wasn't any better on Saturday. However he has been much better than anticipated, in fact surprisingly good. Thing is, after a couple of shit games, would Aluko/Diamond/Smith get the same treatment? Would they fuck. What pissed me off the most was watching him fall over about half a dozen times and then the twat comes out with the same boots on in the second half and does the same thing all over again. I agree he has been better than expected...but it shows you how bad he really was the first time around. Quote
Kenny Deuchar Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 I think the cheering was more for Jimmy finally realising what everyone in the Stadium could easily see. I wouldnt say he had a mare, he is just simply not a central midfielder. Did his best, which isnt good enough. Its not as though he is a proven centre mid who had an off day, he cant play there. With him as our attacking centre mid we were never gonna do anything. I think young has a role as a squad player, backup for one of the wings if need be. But Centre Midfield, wise up Jimmy. Shows how backward our squad is going. Jimmytried him there on Sat, he was terrible, hooked him. So why put him in that position again. Is Gary Macdonald really that bad? Quote
TENEMENTFUNSTER Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 I think the cheering was more for Jimmy finally realising what everyone in the Stadium could easily see. I wouldnt say he had a mare, he is just simply not a central midfielder. Did his best, which isnt good enough. Its not as though he is a proven centre mid who had an off day, he cant play there. With him as our attacking centre mid we were never gonna do anything. I think young has a role as a squad player, backup for one of the wings if need be. But Centre Midfield, wise up Jimmy. Shows how backward our squad is going. Jimmytried him there on Sat, he was terrible, hooked him. So why put him in that position again. Is Gary Macdonald really that bad? I would have to ask if Seve is that good at the back can we afford to lose him from the middle? Really daft stuff. But, we won. Quote
mizer Posted November 13, 2008 Author Report Posted November 13, 2008 However he has been much better than anticipated, in fact surprisingly good. He has been better than feared, but still isnt that good. Thing is, after a couple of shit games, would Aluko/Diamond/Smith get the same treatment? Would they fuck. Thats becasue they have skill, you should compare him with the less skillful players in the squad such as Foster, Mair or Duff - who would also get booed. Quote
Superstar Tradesman Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 You can debate whether any player is deserving of that sort of stick, but Calderwood has to appreciate that fans aren't doing this just because they feel like it. They are doing it because it isn't just the "odd bad game". Whether he never hides and always gives 100% or not, is entirely irrelevant because he is so lacking in ability. He isn't good enough for us but seems to be bullet proof as far as JC is concerned. Very true statement. But if I performed as poorly as he does so regularly, I'd be out of a job. It's as simple as that. I know what we'll get when he is in the team too... frustration and anxiety. Anyone who talks of any pro footballer in the terms of "he will never fail for lack of effort" is effectively saying "he's shit at football." He has had a few ok games, but he's still a poor signing, the fact he hasn't been quite as bad as we anticipated doesn't mean he's a good player or a good signing. Thanks for that Bobby, saved me 10 minutes having to type exactly that. The only thing I'd like to add is: "But 28-year-old Young, signed as a squad player" I thought/hoped he was signed to make up the numbers on the cheap. So why is he straight in each week when he's been rank rotten? Quote
TENEMENTFUNSTER Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 Thats becasue they have skill, you should compare him with the less skillful players in the squad such as Foster, Mair or Duff - who would also get booed. We are not Barcelona, we will ALWAYS have less skilled players. Our fans are too stupid to realise that. Quote
BobbyBiscuit Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 I wonder if JC will play him on Saturday just so he's not seen to be bowing to the fans, and also to give Young a bit of a boost? If he does start... then, good luck to him... Quote
manc_don Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 I wonder if JC will play him on Saturday just so he's not seen to be bowing to the fans, and also to give Young a bit of a boost? If he does start... then, good luck to him... It wouldn't surprise me at all, because otherwise it will be viewed that the "boo boys" have won. Despite the fact they/we are correct. He doesn't deserve a bloody starting spot! Sub appearance and no more, I can't even mind the last good game he had! Quote
Kowalski Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 Do the Daily Record just have a standard URL that they make changes to when they want to stir things up every now and again? http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/spl/aberdeen/<year>/<month>/<day>/<place alleged quote here>-blasts-aberdeen-boss-jimmy-calderwood/ Quote
Mackie's ace! Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 Young was terrible on Tuesday, he deserved what he was getting! But to say that he was cheered/booed off was a bit of an exaggeration, at least in the south stand. Quote
RDU_64 Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 But to say that he was cheered/booed off was a bit of an exaggeration, at least in the south stand. He certainly got jeered in the RDU! Quote
TENEMENTFUNSTER Posted November 13, 2008 Report Posted November 13, 2008 and the South Stand is full of reasonable minded individuals with a higher average of IQ. Only in the second half. Quote
sheep_shagger Posted November 14, 2008 Report Posted November 14, 2008 He was like Bambi on ice on Tuesday night. Totally inept performance and should be nowhere near the game tomorrow. The decision to take him off was certainly loudly cheered in the RDS. The RDS is a funny place though, Langfield kicks the ball long but overhits Miller and goes through to St.Mirren keeper and loud boos ring out. Within a minute he has the ball again but takes more time and the RDS get restless shouting at him to get on with it, hits Miller who flicks it on and Mackie doesnt get to it, more boos. Funny as fuck, you just knew he wasnt going to get it right!! Quote
Wazzamatazz Posted November 14, 2008 Report Posted November 14, 2008 He was like Bambi on ice on Tuesday night. Totally inept performance and should be nowhere near the game tomorrow. The decision to take him off was certainly loudly cheered in the RDS. The RDS is a funny place though, Langfield kicks the ball long but overhits Miller and goes through to St.Mirren keeper and loud boos ring out. Within a minute he has the ball again but takes more time and the RDS get restless shouting at him to get on with it, hits Miller who flicks it on and Mackie doesnt get to it, more boos. Funny as fuck, you just knew he wasnt going to get it right!! I was under the impression that the boos Langfield got were down to him punting it up the field instead of throwing it to either the full back (who always seemed to be in acres of space)? Quote
Edinburghdon Posted November 15, 2008 Report Posted November 15, 2008 I was under the impression that the boos Langfield got were down to him punting it up the field instead of throwing it to either the full back (who always seemed to be in acres of space)? That's the impression i got as well, the blame can't fall all on langfield though, there was no movement at all Quote
BobbyBiscuit Posted November 15, 2008 Report Posted November 15, 2008 Young starts again. Un-fucking-believable. Quote
manc_don Posted November 15, 2008 Report Posted November 15, 2008 Young starts again. Un-fucking-believable. No surprise there then! Quote
BobbyBiscuit Posted November 15, 2008 Report Posted November 15, 2008 Maybe there is a plan though... to sub him at half time? Maybe he'll get a hat-trick! Come on Deek - Have a good one!!! Possibly! Hope he gets a hat trick too! Quote
sheep_shagger Posted November 17, 2008 Report Posted November 17, 2008 I was under the impression that the boos Langfield got were down to him punting it up the field instead of throwing it to either the full back (who always seemed to be in acres of space)? Not from those aroud me as on more than one occasion he had st.mirren players around him and therefore throwing it to a full back would have been goal keeping suicide!! Quote
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