CtS Posted January 22, 2009 Report Posted January 22, 2009 Would say that out of the above 5 of them have been among our best players in recent times, some may argue mackie too so thats 6! 6 of our youth team made it through the ranks and made us some cash in the process. Which manager gave those players a break and gave them a chance in the first team? How many of the current first team that have came through our youth development were brought into the team by calderwood? hes been here for 5 years so should be easy enough! Are you going to give Billy McNeill credit for the youngsters that Alex Ferguson inherited? Jimmy and Jimmy got the best out of these guys, but you probably wont be able to see that. Quote
TENEMENTFUNSTER Posted January 22, 2009 Report Posted January 22, 2009 Miller took over and said the youth set up needed completely revamped. I presume from that that the results of the existing set up were simply not good enough. As has been asked over and over again, where did all of these talented players that didn't get a chance from JC go? Keep greetin stoney. Quote
Superstar Tradesman Posted January 22, 2009 Report Posted January 22, 2009 Well if Maguire is the soul representative and the cream of the crop then I'm glad we're not giving anyone else a run out. Have you ever considered that we're getting the youth development into shape because it was badly needing looked at, due to the fact there weren't any of them good enough to make the step up? I very much doubt what we have sitting on the bench would bring anything to the first team at the moment. Why would any manager let them get a run out if that were the case? Quote
Superstar Tradesman Posted January 22, 2009 Report Posted January 22, 2009 Are you going to give Billy McNeill credit for the youngsters that Alex Ferguson inherited? Jimmy and Jimmy got the best out of these guys, but you probably wont be able to see that. The other side of the coin will be that Jimmy will still get a hard time if AFC slide back into their own habits after he leaves. Yet Ferguson doesn't seem to get blamed for the 15 years of utter dross he left behind him. 100% JMGCASB at straws brigade. Quote
stoney Posted January 22, 2009 Report Posted January 22, 2009 Well if Maguire is the soul representative and the cream of the crop then I'm glad we're not giving anyone else a run out. Have you ever considered that we're getting the youth development into shape because it was badly needing looked at, due to the fact there weren't any of them good enough to make the step up? I very much doubt what we have sitting on the bench would bring anything to the first team at the moment. Why would any manager let them get a run out if that were the case? Why was it badly needing looked at? we took through mcnaughton, mackie, diamond, clark, anderson etc etc etc so it couldnt have been that bad before could it? How do we know none of the young players arnt good enough to make the step up if we never play any of them? @ CTS which of the youngsters in the fergie either did mcneil blood in the first team? Quote
El Padre™ Posted January 22, 2009 Report Posted January 22, 2009 Why was it badly needing looked at? we took through mcnaughton, mackie, diamond, clark, anderson etc etc etc so it couldnt have been that bad before could it? How do we know none of the young players arnt good enough to make the step up if we never play any of them? @ CTS which of the youngsters in the fergie either did mcneil blood in the first team? How do you know they ARE good enough? Quote
stoney Posted January 22, 2009 Report Posted January 22, 2009 unlike some part time fans (and calderwood) i actually take the time to go to reserve games Quote
capitalsharpie Posted January 22, 2009 Report Posted January 22, 2009 My god Stoney, get a GRIP!! The team are doing well and more good news happens our way with almost an entire replacement in first team (numerically any way) as internationals? What the fuck does AFC have to do to get any respect or praise? Well done to all these boys, keep working hard and we'll see you at 3 O'clock some saturday in the future!! Quote
El Padre™ Posted January 22, 2009 Report Posted January 22, 2009 unlike some part time fans (and calderwood) i actually take the time to go to reserve games And that makes you more of an authority than the staff employed at AFC to make these decisions? Is it a nice view from up there? Quote
glasgow sheep Posted January 22, 2009 Author Report Posted January 22, 2009 Why was it badly needing looked at? we took through mcnaughton, mackie, diamond, clark, anderson etc etc etc so it couldnt have been that bad before could it? How do we know none of the young players arnt good enough to make the step up if we never play any of them? @ CTS which of the youngsters in the fergie either did mcneil blood in the first team? players at afc when fergie joined: Archibald, Cooper, Kennedy, McLeish, McMaster, Miller, Rougvie, Strachan to name but a few Quote
smooth Posted January 22, 2009 Report Posted January 22, 2009 so are you saying that you've identified someone who could do a job for us then? and drop who? The point is no matter what happens calderwood get the blame. We get good news on the youth front - and a snidey comment about calderwood never playing them. You want a competitive team but you want try untested youth as well - which is it? Quote
TENEMENTFUNSTER Posted January 22, 2009 Report Posted January 22, 2009 Where are they now stoney? Any of them, I'm no fussy. But hey, managers everywhere will be wondering how no-one gave you your break in management. Quote
BobbyBiscuit Posted January 22, 2009 Report Posted January 22, 2009 Why was it badly needing looked at? we took through mcnaughton, mackie, diamond, clark, anderson etc etc etc so it couldnt have been that bad before could it? Because they came through way before Miller and Calderwood came in. Cast your mind back to Paterson's "regime". Do you really think the following players were cut out for SPL life with Aberdeen: Kevin Soutar - now in the US earning $7,000 a year Kevin Rutkiewicz - now at St Johnstone Fergus Tiernan - now a fireman Murray McCulloch - god knows Michelle Lombardi - Highland League Scott Muirhead - Dunfermline Scott Morrison - Dunfermline John Stewart - QotS (?) Mark Peat - Clyde (?) So, yeah, fair point, there was nothing at all wrong with the youth set up before Miller and Calderwood came in... Quote
CtS Posted January 22, 2009 Report Posted January 22, 2009 Why was it badly needing looked at? we took through mcnaughton, mackie, diamond, clark, anderson etc etc etc so it couldnt have been that bad before could it? How do we know none of the young players arnt good enough to make the step up if we never play any of them? @ CTS which of the youngsters in the fergie either did mcneil blood in the first team? Mcneil regularly played a young Steve Archibald, and signed a very young Gordon Strachan from Dundee. Sir Bill McNeil, Dons Legend? No, the truth is these were good players who went on to achieve great things working with a new manager. Some may disagree with this, but Russell Anderson was very average until his last 3 or 4 seasons with the dons. I don't know why I'm bothering debating this with someone as blinkered as you. Quote
El Padre™ Posted January 22, 2009 Report Posted January 22, 2009 I have to say Stoney, even by your own high standards, this is an absolutely classic bit of self pocketing. Quote
stoney Posted January 22, 2009 Report Posted January 22, 2009 Because they came through way before Miller and Calderwood came in. Cast your mind back to Paterson's "regime". Do you really think the following players were cut out for SPL life with Aberdeen: Kevin Soutar - now in the US earning $7,000 a year Kevin Rutkiewicz - now at St Johnstone Fergus Tiernan - now a fireman Murray McCulloch - god knows Michelle Lombardi - Highland League Scott Muirhead - Dunfermline Scott Morrison - Dunfermline John Stewart - QotS (?) Mark Peat - Clyde (?) So, yeah, fair point, there was nothing at all wrong with the youth set up before Miller and Calderwood came in... How many of those players played in the 2-1 win at parkhead, ending one of the longest home undefeated records in teh history of football something several world class teams couldnt do. They were good enough that night though wernt they Quote
BobbyBiscuit Posted January 22, 2009 Report Posted January 22, 2009 How many of those players played in the 2-1 win at parkhead, ending one of the longest home undefeated records in teh history of football something several world class teams couldnt do. They were good enough that night though wernt they Apparently, but not good enough to play at SPL level on a consistent basis, were they? Unless of course, you want us to be in the first division? (Which you probably do, give you something else to moan about) Quote
CtS Posted January 22, 2009 Report Posted January 22, 2009 That was a freak result stoney. Same as when QoTS beat us. Quote
BobbyBiscuit Posted January 22, 2009 Report Posted January 22, 2009 How many of those players played in the 2-1 win at parkhead, ending one of the longest home undefeated records in teh history of football something several world class teams couldnt do. They were good enough that night though wernt they They were also "good enough" to lose 3-0 to Partick Thistle. Quote
stoney Posted January 22, 2009 Report Posted January 22, 2009 Apparently, but not good enough to play at SPL level on a consistent basis, were they? Unless of course, you want us to be in the first division? (Which you probably do, give you something else to moan about) We will never know will we as calderwood binned them all without giving half them a chance Quote
BobbyBiscuit Posted January 22, 2009 Report Posted January 22, 2009 We will never know will we as calderwood binned them all without giving half them a chance Why has no one else given them a chance in the SPL then? Cos they're shite. That's why. Quote
El Padre™ Posted January 22, 2009 Report Posted January 22, 2009 We will never know will we as calderwood binned them all without giving half them a chance They got their chance to prove themselves in reserve games and unders games. They were deemed surplus. Keep going Stoney, this is brilliant, you haven't got a fucking clue! Quote
glasgow sheep Posted January 22, 2009 Author Report Posted January 22, 2009 Anyway well done to afc, willie, len and all the loons. Keep up the good work and hope to see some of you breaking through to the full international team in the future. THREAD CLOSED Quote
Guest ally s Posted January 22, 2009 Report Posted January 22, 2009 We will never know will we as calderwood binned them all without giving half them a chance Put yer fishing rod away man! Quote
El Padre™ Posted January 22, 2009 Report Posted January 22, 2009 Don't lock the thread, Stoneys fucking hilarious! Quote
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