glasgow sheep Posted May 26, 2011 Report Posted May 26, 2011 The league season is broken up enough by international fixtures these days, adding more to it will needlessly extend the season. It wouldn't. There are a number of international breaks that the leagues have to take. Not all of these will be taken up by qualifiers and are for friendlies (such as this tournament). Three "four nation" games vs RoI, NI and Wales each season instead friendlies against Denmark, Faroes, Hungry etc wouldn't cause any fixture problems. Quote
Madbadteacher Posted May 26, 2011 Report Posted May 26, 2011 They should organise something for summer 2012 with the 4 teams plus maybe a guest nation or two. After all it's not likely any of the 4 teams wil be at Euro 2012! Quote
manc_don Posted May 26, 2011 Report Posted May 26, 2011 They should organise something for summer 2012 with the 4 teams plus maybe a guest nation or two. After all it's not likely any of the 4 teams wil be at Euro 2012! Can't say I care about the other 3 countries tbh! Quote
BobbyBiscuit Posted May 26, 2011 Report Posted May 26, 2011 It wouldn't. There are a number of international breaks that the leagues have to take. Not all of these will be taken up by qualifiers and are for friendlies (such as this tournament). Three "four nation" games vs RoI, NI and Wales each season instead friendlies against Denmark, Faroes, Hungry etc wouldn't cause any fixture problems. Scotland play three friendlies a year during the season? as much as that? What a joke. Quote
Harcus Posted May 26, 2011 Report Posted May 26, 2011 Three "four nation" games vs RoI, NI and Wales each season instead friendlies against Denmark, Faroes, Hungry etc wouldn't cause any fixture problems. I think friendlies eat into the season too much already. I've little appetite for them. Quote
manc_don Posted May 26, 2011 Report Posted May 26, 2011 As if we're not already starved of good quality football as it is! Quote
glasgow sheep Posted May 26, 2011 Report Posted May 26, 2011 Scotland play three friendlies a year during the season? as much as that? What a joke. The FIFA international calendar for 2011 and 12 011 31 May - 01 June 61st FIFA Congress Zurich 01 June Friendly match day 03-07 June International match days 05-25 June CONCACAF Gold Cup 2011 USA USA 18 June - 10 July FIFA U-17 World Cup Mexico 2011 Mexico 26 June - 17 July FIFA Women's World Cup Germany 2011 Germany 01-24 July Copa America 2011 Argentina 29 July - 20 August FIFA U-20 World Cup Colombia 2011 Colombia 30 July Preliminary Draw for the 2014 FIFA World Cup Brazil 10 August Friendly match day 01-11 September FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup Ravenna/Italy 2011 Italy 02-06 September International match days 07-11 October International match days 11-15 November International match days 08-18 December FIFA Club World Cup Japan 2011 Japan 01-31 January Africa Cup of Nations 2012 Equatorial Guinea/Gabon 29 February Friendly match day 22 March UEFA Congress 24-25 May FIFA Congress 01-05 June International match days 08-12 June International match days 08 June - 01 July UEFA EURO 2012 Poland/Ukraine 25 July - 11 August Olympic Football Tournaments London 2012 - Men England 25 July - 11 August Olympic Football Tournaments London 2012 - Women England 15 August Friendly match day 07-11 September Friendly match day 12-16 October International match days 02-18 November FIFA Futsal World Cup Thailand 2012 Thailand 14 November Friendly match day Quote
BobbyBiscuit Posted May 26, 2011 Report Posted May 26, 2011 The FIFA international calendar for 2011 and 12 011 31 May - 01 June 61st FIFA Congress Zurich 01 June Friendly match day 03-07 June International match days 05-25 June CONCACAF Gold Cup 2011 USA USA 18 June - 10 July FIFA U-17 World Cup Mexico 2011 Mexico 26 June - 17 July FIFA Women's World Cup Germany 2011 Germany 01-24 July Copa America 2011 Argentina 29 July - 20 August FIFA U-20 World Cup Colombia 2011 Colombia 30 July Preliminary Draw for the 2014 FIFA World Cup Brazil 10 August Friendly match day 01-11 September FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup Ravenna/Italy 2011 Italy 02-06 September International match days 07-11 October International match days 11-15 November International match days 08-18 December FIFA Club World Cup Japan 2011 Japan 01-31 January Africa Cup of Nations 2012 Equatorial Guinea/Gabon 29 February Friendly match day 22 March UEFA Congress 24-25 May FIFA Congress 01-05 June International match days 08-12 June International match days 08 June - 01 July UEFA EURO 2012 Poland/Ukraine 25 July - 11 August Olympic Football Tournaments London 2012 - Men England 25 July - 11 August Olympic Football Tournaments London 2012 - Women England 15 August Friendly match day 07-11 September Friendly match day 12-16 October International match days 02-18 November FIFA Futsal World Cup Thailand 2012 Thailand 14 November Friendly match day They're surely days when Friendlies can be played, not necessarily days when Scotland will or have played friendlies and are actually the dates that are generally used for the qualifiers, no? Quote
glasgow sheep Posted May 26, 2011 Report Posted May 26, 2011 They're surely days when Friendlies can be played, not necessarily days when Scotland will or have played friendlies and are actually the dates that are generally used for the qualifiers, no? I presume the qualifiers are "international match days" although would need to check. All these dates will be dates that National Leagues will not be allowed to hold league games on (or if they do will need to allow players to leave for International duty if picked). Of course you don't HAVE to play friendlies but many will. Quote
BobbyBiscuit Posted May 26, 2011 Report Posted May 26, 2011 I presume the qualifiers are "international match days" although would need to check. All these dates will be dates that National Leagues will not be allowed to hold league games on (or if they do will need to allow players to leave for International duty if picked). Of course you don't HAVE to play friendlies but many will. The ones in September are definitely used for qualifiers normally. February too, I believe. Quote
glasgow sheep Posted May 26, 2011 Report Posted May 26, 2011 The ones in September are definitely used for qualifiers normally. February too, I believe. Sept dates in 2011 are designated "international matches" we play the Czechs. The ones in 2012 will be just after Euro 2012 so probably won't have started WC qualifying by then. This Feb we played NI in the Celtic Cup (friendly) Quote
BobbyBiscuit Posted May 26, 2011 Report Posted May 26, 2011 Sept dates in 2011 are designated "international matches" we play the Czechs. The ones in 2012 will be just after Euro 2012 so probably won't have started WC qualifying by then. This Feb we played NI in the Celtic Cup (friendly) Would it not be more beneficial for Scotland (and the Irish and Welsh) to play friendlies against teams of similar styles to those they'll play in tournament qualification matches, and dare I say it, tournaments? Playing similar style sides isn't really going to help much is it? Quote
manc_don Posted May 28, 2011 Report Posted May 28, 2011 Any predictions for tonight then? I'm hoping United hold firm and sneak a victory. Would be nice for Giggsy to score the winner Think it will be quite a tight affair, hopefully a 2-1 united win. Possibly after extra time. Quote
Madbadteacher Posted May 28, 2011 Report Posted May 28, 2011 Any predictions for tonight then? I'm hoping United hold firm and sneak a victory. Would be nice for Giggsy to score the winner Think it will be quite a tight affair, hopefully a 2-1 united win. Possibly after extra time. Do you work for the tabloid press manc? Quote
manc_don Posted May 28, 2011 Report Posted May 28, 2011 Do you work for the tabloid press manc? What can i say, only on the weekends Quote
BobbyBiscuit Posted May 28, 2011 Report Posted May 28, 2011 Dimitar Berbatov doesn't even make the Manchester United bench: Van der Sar, Fabio, Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra, Valencia, Carrick, Giggs, Park, Rooney, Hernandez. Subs: Kuszczak, Owen, Anderson, Smalling, Nani, Scholes, Fletcher. Barcelona club captain Carles Puyol doesn't start, with Javier Mascherano taking his place in central defence: Valdes, Alves, Mascherano, Pique, Abidal, Xavi, Busquets, Iniesta, Pedro, Messi, Villa. Subs: to come Big blow for Barca. United as expected really. Quote
tom_widdows Posted May 28, 2011 Report Posted May 28, 2011 My prediction is it has been so overhyped (particularly because it is the last game of the season) that it will be a dire 1-0 affair. The goal will be a dire shot that takes a massive deflection but the commentators will still find some way of making out whoever scored be it rooney, messi, Villa, berbatov etc knew exactly what they were doing Quote
Madbadteacher Posted May 28, 2011 Report Posted May 28, 2011 Now now Tom, don't be so optimistic. 0-0 die game 1-0 on pens! Quote
BigAl Posted May 28, 2011 Report Posted May 28, 2011 First thing Rooney has done so far and one each Good finish tbh Quote
BigAl Posted May 28, 2011 Report Posted May 28, 2011 Seventy mins gone totally Men v Boys Barca miles ahead in every department 3-1 Quote
tom_widdows Posted May 28, 2011 Report Posted May 28, 2011 Just wish someone would punch tyldsley. His commentary is borderline Partridge Quote
manc_don Posted May 28, 2011 Report Posted May 28, 2011 Good game, unusual for a champs league final . Best team won. How Valencia stayed on the pitch was beyond me, I thought he had a terrible game. Quote
BobbyBiscuit Posted May 28, 2011 Report Posted May 28, 2011 My prediction is it has been so overhyped (particularly because it is the last game of the season) that it will be a dire 1-0 affair. The goal will be a dire shot that takes a massive deflection but the commentators will still find some way of making out whoever scored be it rooney, messi, Villa, berbatov etc knew exactly what they were doing Deary me. Why bother Tom? Football is supposed to be enjoyable. If you don't enjoy it, why do you bother? Good game, unusual for a champs league final . Best team won. How Valencia stayed on the pitch was beyond me, I thought he had a terrible game. How Valencia was continually penalised for shoulder challenges is beyond me!! Better side won, good game though. Quote
tom_widdows Posted May 28, 2011 Report Posted May 28, 2011 I do enjoy football Bobby. What i cannot stand is the media over hyping every single detail about a match which for me thanks to this wonderful champions league bullshit is getting to be as unique as a Man United vs Liverpool/ Arsenal/ Chelsea league match. And 9 times out of 10 that hype ends in complete tedium Quote
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