He-Man Posted June 22, 2009 Report Posted June 22, 2009 Yes but several clubs have been put into administration in the last few years. Bournmouth, Rotherham, Southampton, Luton, Chester City, Wrexham, Boston, Leeds, York City, Huddersfied Town, Carlisle United, Stockport County, Port Vale, Swansea Watford , Cardiff & Coventry were only saved at the last minute. Unless they are going to the premiership (and how long will that last?) players are going to have to realise that like the silly house prices, silly footballers wages are coming to an end. Ill be interested to see what Severin picks up at Watford should the deal go through Many of the clubs mentioned were nadly affected due to the fact they were ex-Premiership clubs whose parachute payments had ended before they made it back to the Premiership [Coventry, Leeds, Watford, Southampton]. Many were badly affected by the ITV digital deal collapsing as they'd spent money they assumed they were going to recuperate. The likes of Boston were a disaster waiting to happen. And the rest were ran by Peter Ridsdale which is a recipe for disaster. There's still loads of money there if you go to the right club. Quote
baggy89 Posted June 22, 2009 Report Posted June 22, 2009 Many of the clubs mentioned were nadly affected due to the fact they were ex-Premiership clubs whose parachute payments had ended before they made it back to the Premiership [Coventry, Leeds, Watford, Southampton]. Many were badly affected by the ITV digital deal collapsing as they'd spent money they assumed they were going to recuperate. The likes of Boston were a disaster waiting to happen. And the rest were ran by Peter Ridsdale which is a recipe for disaster. There's still loads of money there if you go to the right club. Don't agree, there are loads of lower league clubs whose business model is; spend beyond your means, establish yourself in the league or leagues above, achieve safety, go into administration, take your deductions, start again. In reality out-with the Prem and to an extent the Championship (which IMO is a false economy) there is not a lot of money available and it will only get worse as more money is gobbled up by the "big" clubs. Don't be fooled by what clubs are spending, it's very rarely in relation to what they can afford! At Cheltenham we have an above mid-table (for L2) attendance have a chairman who is pretty canny with the spending and in our last promotion season (*which included a home FA cup tie against Newcastle and and away Coca Cola cup tie away against Sunderland) we still posted a loss (covered by the directors). Quote
He-Man Posted June 22, 2009 Report Posted June 22, 2009 You're agreeing with what I'm saying, there is loads of money there (whether it's borrowed or not). Quote
Tyrant Posted June 22, 2009 Report Posted June 22, 2009 It can't go on the way it's going. Silly money. Quote
tom_widdows Posted June 22, 2009 Report Posted June 22, 2009 Many of the clubs mentioned were nadly affected due to the fact they were ex-Premiership clubs whose parachute payments had ended before they made it back to the Premiership [Coventry, Leeds, Watford, Southampton]. Many were badly affected by the ITV digital deal collapsing as they'd spent money they assumed they were going to recuperate. The likes of Boston were a disaster waiting to happen. And the rest were ran by Peter Ridsdale which is a recipe for disaster. There's still loads of money there if you go to the right club. Right club not clubs Each season there are fewer and fewer prepared or allowed to pay out stupid wages and ill hazard a bet those that can are thinking long and hard before they push the boat out on long expensive contracts. no longer are they going to push the boat out for some mildly average SPL player who once scored a goal against the old firm. I just hope all these footballers have been saving or investing their money wisely because the 'pubs run by ex pro players' trade isnt exactly booming either Quote
He-Man Posted June 22, 2009 Report Posted June 22, 2009 This hasn't been mentioned yet I don't think http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/8113177.stm SPL seeks new television contract The Scottish Premier League is seeking a new television broadcasting deal after Setanta failed to meet a deadline to pay £3m as part of its contract. Setanta last year agreed to pay £125m over four seasons to extend its deal with the SPL beyond 2010. But SPL chairman Lex Gold said the Irish firm missed an extended deadline. "We are now actively engaging in the process of selling our domestic broadcasting rights for next season and beyond," he said. At the beginning of the month, the SPL paid £3m to 12 member clubs from its own funds to tide them over in lieu of money owed by Setanta. And the broadcaster lost the rights to televise English Premier League games last week after failing to pay the latest chunk of the £30m it still owed the league. Gold said: "Setanta has been unable to meet our extended deadline for the outstanding £3m payment to the SPL and, in terms of the notice previously issued, our British broadcasting rights for season 2009/10 and beyond revert to us. "We set three deadlines and we wanted to work with Setanta who have been a great partner of ours. "They have spent £60m in supporting Scottish football and our board were determined to give them every possible chance to work through the problems that they had." The SPL chairman added: "That process has been lengthy and intensive but the deadline today was the final deadline so our rights reverted to us as of 3pm today. "So we are now in the market for selling those broadcasting rights for next season and beyond." Gold said he did not believe that any new deal would mean having to accept a lower fee. "We have a product that is valuable in the marketplace and we will be seeking to see that value covered," he added. "The clubs have been kept up to date on a regular basis so they are able to make prudent decisions." Hearts managing director Campbell Ogilvie said the news was "disappointing" but stressed that the Edinburgh club was in good financial shape for the future. "We now have an opportunity to create a new and rewarding broadcast partnership for the future of the Scottish Premier League," he said. "The league is an excellent product and I am confident that there are significant tangible benefits for our future broadcast partners. "Our wider prudence and an ongoing focus on increasing operational efficiencies and improving revenue streams is ensuring that Hearts is well prepared to weather this particular situation." A potential rescue deal, led by a US investor who had proposed buying 51% of Setanta, fell through last week. The future of the Irish broadcasting firm is now in grave doubt, while BBC Scotland has not contacted the SPL over the possibility of broadcasting live games next season. Setanta first won the rights to broadcast live SPL matches in competition with previous rights holder BBC Scotland in 2004. However, it is unlikely that a free-to-air terrestrial broadcaster could now come close to matching the kind of money offered by Setanta for live coverage of Scotland's top-flight. BBC Scotland has been broadcasting SPL match highlights on television and the internet while looking to buy up rights to live matches involving Scottish clubs in European competitions. Quote
TENEMENTFUNSTER Posted June 22, 2009 Report Posted June 22, 2009 Be interesting to see who actually shows up as interested in our "valuable product". I don't expect a cavalry charge. Quote
BobbyBiscuit Posted June 22, 2009 Report Posted June 22, 2009 Be interesting to see who actually shows up as interested in our "valuable product". I don't expect a cavalry charge. The Guardian claims that Sky are preparing a "£90m rescue package" to take the rights to the SPL. It's a fair bit short on what Setanta were offering but I'd bite their hand off. If we're on Sky regularly then hopefully that's an added plus point when it comes to getting more money from sponsors due to the larger (potential) audience. According to their report we may go back to playing games on Sunday evenings though, or Saturday lunchtimes (not much change there). Quote
Jute Posted June 22, 2009 Report Posted June 22, 2009 Be interesting to see who actually shows up as interested in our "valuable product". I don't expect a cavalry charge. It will be Sky or nobody I suspect and even if it is Sky they will offer us next to fuck all and expect us to play whenever it suits them. Quote
boboisared Posted June 22, 2009 Report Posted June 22, 2009 This hasn't been mentioned yet I don't think http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/8113177.stm SPL seeks new television contract The Scottish Premier League is seeking a new television broadcasting deal after Setanta failed to meet a deadline to pay £3m as part of its contract. Setanta last year agreed to pay £125m over four seasons to extend its deal with the SPL beyond 2010. But SPL chairman Lex Gold said the Irish firm missed an extended deadline. "We are now actively engaging in the process of selling our domestic broadcasting rights for next season and beyond," he said. At the beginning of the month, the SPL paid £3m to 12 member clubs from its own funds to tide them over in lieu of money owed by Setanta. And the broadcaster lost the rights to televise English Premier League games last week after failing to pay the latest chunk of the £30m it still owed the league. Gold said: "Setanta has been unable to meet our extended deadline for the outstanding £3m payment to the SPL and, in terms of the notice previously issued, our British broadcasting rights for season 2009/10 and beyond revert to us. "We set three deadlines and we wanted to work with Setanta who have been a great partner of ours. "They have spent £60m in supporting Scottish football and our board were determined to give them every possible chance to work through the problems that they had." The SPL chairman added: "That process has been lengthy and intensive but the deadline today was the final deadline so our rights reverted to us as of 3pm today. "So we are now in the market for selling those broadcasting rights for next season and beyond." Gold said he did not believe that any new deal would mean having to accept a lower fee. "We have a product that is valuable in the marketplace and we will be seeking to see that value covered," he added. "The clubs have been kept up to date on a regular basis so they are able to make prudent decisions." Hearts managing director Campbell Ogilvie said the news was "disappointing" but stressed that the Edinburgh club was in good financial shape for the future. "We now have an opportunity to create a new and rewarding broadcast partnership for the future of the Scottish Premier League," he said. "The league is an excellent product and I am confident that there are significant tangible benefits for our future broadcast partners. "Our wider prudence and an ongoing focus on increasing operational efficiencies and improving revenue streams is ensuring that Hearts is well prepared to weather this particular situation." A potential rescue deal, led by a US investor who had proposed buying 51% of Setanta, fell through last week. The future of the Irish broadcasting firm is now in grave doubt, while BBC Scotland has not contacted the SPL over the possibility of broadcasting live games next season. Setanta first won the rights to broadcast live SPL matches in competition with previous rights holder BBC Scotland in 2004. However, it is unlikely that a free-to-air terrestrial broadcaster could now come close to matching the kind of money offered by Setanta for live coverage of Scotland's top-flight. BBC Scotland has been broadcasting SPL match highlights on television and the internet while looking to buy up rights to live matches involving Scottish clubs in European competitions. LMAONADE Quote
Mackie's ace! Posted June 22, 2009 Report Posted June 22, 2009 ESPN have bought the Premiership games. Quote
TENEMENTFUNSTER Posted June 22, 2009 Report Posted June 22, 2009 It will be Sky or nobody I suspect and even if it is Sky they will offer us next to fuck all and expect us to play whenever it suits them. I'd be very surprised it that wasn't the case but I do think the KO's will be much as before. We got fucked about by Setanta too so business as usual. Quote
tom_widdows Posted June 22, 2009 Report Posted June 22, 2009 Gold said he did not believe that any new deal would mean having to accept a lower fee. "We have a product that is valuable in the marketplace and we will be seeking to see that value covered," he added. Quote
Kowalski Posted June 23, 2009 Report Posted June 23, 2009 Re:Scott Booth - has McGhee filled all his coaching roles? Quote
Tyrant Posted June 23, 2009 Report Posted June 23, 2009 So is everyone cancelling their Setanta or is there nae need? Quote
boboisared Posted June 23, 2009 Report Posted June 23, 2009 Re:Scott Booth - has McGhee filled all his coaching roles? **Waits for Reekie to tell us a story about Booth having one leg longer than the other** Quote
baggy89 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Posted June 23, 2009 Re:Scott Booth - has McGhee filled all his coaching roles? Fuck coaching if we could get 10 games out of him next season he'd be our top scorer. Quote
dave_min Posted June 23, 2009 Report Posted June 23, 2009 **Waits for Reekie to tell us a story about Booth having one leg longer than the other** ** Waits for follow-on story aboud Dortmund Physio team and special boots ** Quote
TENEMENTFUNSTER Posted June 23, 2009 Report Posted June 23, 2009 ** Waits for follow-on story aboud Dortmund Physio team and special boots ** Aye, a fucking caliper for Murdo McLeod. Quote
caledonia Posted June 23, 2009 Report Posted June 23, 2009 uk operations now ceased http://www.setanta.com/global/gb.html Setanta Sports Customers from England, Wales, Scotland, Isle of Man and Channel Islands, please be advised that it is with great regret that Setanta GB is no longer trading. Setanta Sports is still operating in the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland only. Customers from ROI and NI should go to www.setanta.com/ie for more information. Setanta Sport Limited Setanta Transmissions (UK) Limited Setanta Sports S.a.r.l (All In Administration) (together "the Companies") On 23 June 2009, Neville Kahn, Lee Manning and Nick Edwards were appointed Joint Administrators of the Companies and now manage the affairs, business and property of Setanta Sport Limited and Setanta Transmissions (UK) Limited and Setanta Sports S.a.r.l.. The Joint Administrators contract as agents of the Companies and without personal liability Quote
BobbyBiscuit Posted June 23, 2009 Report Posted June 23, 2009 What was due to be on Rangers TV at 9.45 tonight? "Don and Dusted - A look at a victory over Aberdeen" It's a series apparently. But no, they don't care about us. Quote
TENEMENTFUNSTER Posted June 23, 2009 Report Posted June 23, 2009 What was due to be on Rangers TV at 9.45 tonight? "Don and Dusted - A look at a victory over Aberdeen" It's a series apparently. But no, they don't care about us. We don't matter. Red TV seems to be working fine though. Quote
Tyrant Posted June 24, 2009 Report Posted June 24, 2009 Are they answering their phones? I'm planning on phoning at lunchtime to cancel just to make sure they don't take off any more money. Quote
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