BobbyBiscuit Posted October 30, 2009 Report Posted October 30, 2009 When I look back on it all now, they call me the keeper who walked out on Scotland. I didn't. I retired. I gave them a fortnight before the tournament to find someone else to sit on the bench. I don't want special treatment when football looks back at what I did, just honesty and fairness. Don't paint it differently because it's Goram the hell-raiser against Leighton the consummate professional. In my opinion, what Jim did when he walked out on Scotland a couple of months later during a Euro qualifying campaign put his country in the s*** far more than my decision two weeks before the World Cup did. Yet he will never be remembered as a bad guy, and I will always be the keeper who walked out on his country. I guess that's the baggage I carry. http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/sport/2702507/Goram-Craig-Brown-broke-my-heart.html There's loads more of this shite if you care to follow the link (i wouldn't advise it). He claims he deserved to play in 98 and not Leighton. If that's the case then it's equally the case that Leighton deserved to play in 96 and not that cuntstick. Also says that Aberdeen is a "side I have no love for", which comes as a relief more than anything. Having read some more of the excerpts of his "book", he is very, very eager to claim he is "not a bigot", which kinda suggests he's a bigot. One of the more despicable of the huns, certainly in the same bracket as Durrant, McCoist, Brown and Willie Johnstone. Quote
baggy89 Posted October 30, 2009 Report Posted October 30, 2009 Does anyone think of him as "the keeper who walked out on Scotland"? I just think of him as "the fat schizophrenic who played for Hibs and once was wicket keeper for Scotland" Irrelevant. Quote
Edinburghdon Posted October 31, 2009 Report Posted October 31, 2009 Mr goram signed his name Andy Goram FTP at a well known north east golf course guest book. Fuck him and the bigotted horse he rode in on. Prick Quote
Harcus Posted October 31, 2009 Report Posted October 31, 2009 reading this shite gives his "book" a measure of credibilitiy it doesn't deserve. Quote
dunblanedon Posted October 31, 2009 Report Posted October 31, 2009 straight to bargain basement with the rest of the hunographies Quote
ntbear Posted October 31, 2009 Report Posted October 31, 2009 He married a catholic then beat her about and talks of his 'lucky escape' after the divorce. Classy guy - well worth being a role model to kids... Quote
willie_millers-barmyarmy Posted October 31, 2009 Report Posted October 31, 2009 dont want to read it, cause in terms of goalkeeping talent, he was absolutely astounding at times. Wish he'd just keep his idiotic mouth shut, so we could remember him as a great Scotland Keeper rather than a key member of the scum association! Quote
Reekie_Red Posted October 31, 2009 Report Posted October 31, 2009 Mr goram signed his name Andy Goram FTP at a well known north east golf course guest book. Andy Goram File Transfer Protocol ? He was a bloody good goalkeeper, but not a patch on Leighton. Hey, we scored five past the ex-Motherwell, ex-Hibs and ex-Elgin twat Quote
ayrdons Posted October 31, 2009 Report Posted October 31, 2009 the cunt visited a pub i use tae frequent in Banknock , somebody gave him a black marker pen and he wrote Andy Goram FTP on the wall above the bar .......whit a dugs dick Quote
Sharpie Posted October 31, 2009 Report Posted October 31, 2009 Andy Goram File Transfer Protocol ? Andy Goram File Transfer Protocol ? He was a bloody good goalkeeper, but not a patch on Leighton. Hey, we scored five past the ex-Motherwell, ex-Hibs and ex-Elgin twat Not a patch on Leighton? Are you for real? Quote
Kowalski Posted October 31, 2009 Report Posted October 31, 2009 Leighton was a FAR better keeper than Goram, in almost every part of his game (bar perhaps his kicking). Quote
baggy89 Posted October 31, 2009 Report Posted October 31, 2009 TBF Gooram beat Leighton on covering the largest goal are without moving, aspect. Quote
BobbyBiscuit Posted October 31, 2009 Author Report Posted October 31, 2009 Leighton was a FAR better keeper than Goram, in almost every part of his game (bar perhaps his kicking). Very much agree with you Kow. Goram was an excellent goalkeeper. However, for a large chunk (no pun intended) of his career, Goram was overweight. There are so many instances where this came into play, I remember one goal he lost in particular where a header went past him at his left shoulder. His weight meant that he couldn't get to it, but there was no suggestion in the press that he could have done better. And of course that then meant that the ones he did get to, he appeared to be struggling to get to them and all of a sudden it was the best save in the world... maybe it was the best save in the world by a goalkeeper nowhere near as fit as his peers. Goram's point blank reactions were fantastic and he certainly more or less won the huns matches against us on more than one occassion but Leighton pulled off saves Goram could only do in his dreams. Goram, I would say, was a flash goalkeeper. Never really wanted to catch the ball and all the finger tip saves over the bar and round the post always look better than the catches. But Leighton always caught the ball if he could. Jim Leighton is the bravest goalkeeper I've ever seen, and that contributed hugely to him also being the best I've ever seen. Snelders was probably "technically" better, but Leighton was just sheer natural ability. It was a sad indictment of the times that in his last season with us he was the only one worth the gate money to watch. Leighton, then Snelders, then Casillas are the best keepers I've seen in the flesh. Goram simply just doesn't get a look in. Quote
Reekie_Red Posted October 31, 2009 Report Posted October 31, 2009 Not a patch on Leighton? Are you for real? WTF is it with every single contribution I make to the DT conversations being met with "wtf?", "you don't have a clue", or "you're an idiot". Goram WAS a world-class goalkeeper. But he was still nowhere near as good as Leighton. Like Bobby says, Leighton's only fault was his kicking. But the amount of boots he took to his face in the name of laying claim to the ball was astounding, and again like Bobby says, there's very few saves that Leighton didn't hold onto where other keepers would palm it away. Quote
manc_don Posted October 31, 2009 Report Posted October 31, 2009 Ah Wtf Reekie seriously though, i couldn't give a Shite what the fat hun has to say. Scum of the highest order despite his ability to cover a vast area of the goal with very little effort. Quote
Madbadteacher Posted November 1, 2009 Report Posted November 1, 2009 Andy Goram File Transfer Protocol ? He was a bloody good goalkeeper, but not a patch on Leighton. Hey, we scored five past the ex-Motherwell, ex-Hibs and ex-Elgin twat It was six, in 1999 Quote
Sharpie Posted November 1, 2009 Report Posted November 1, 2009 WTF is it with every single contribution I make to the DT conversations being met with "wtf?", "you don't have a clue", or "you're an idiot". Ban the clowns Reeky. Quote
baldrick_sheep Posted November 1, 2009 Report Posted November 1, 2009 Goram was over in Antrim last month for a night of "cultural singing and entertainment". One of my workmates was there and told him he worked with me, a dandy. He wasnt too complimentry about us, not surprised but proves he is a cock. All this pretending about not being a bigot, or not knowing who the loyalist terrorists is bullshit. He was a good keeper but Jim Leighton is miles above him in terms of not being a cock. Quote
willie_millers-barmyarmy Posted November 1, 2009 Report Posted November 1, 2009 i think the fact is leighton peeked in the 80's and goram in the early to mid 90's, therefore when goram was fighting with leighton, he was better, but whether he was a better keeper than leighton when both at their best...is far more debatable. in my opinion anyway. the run when rangers almost got to the final of the old champions league, was an amazing tournament for goram. 92 was it? he is however a cock. Quote
Madbadteacher Posted November 2, 2009 Report Posted November 2, 2009 IMHO Bobby Clark was better than either Quote
BobbyBiscuit Posted November 2, 2009 Author Report Posted November 2, 2009 no danger, MBT. From the obviously limited footage i've seen of Clark on video/DVD i'd say that both were better and by a fair distance. Game has changed enormously right enough. Quote
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