Jump to content

Boxing Day - kick-off 3pm

Scottish Premiership - Kilmarnock v Aberdeen

Recommended Posts

Posted

Some strong trends for the grand national and applying them will give us a far better chance of getting the winner than not.

13 of the last 14 winners were aged 9 or above.

11 of the last 14 were 9 or 10 year old.

1970 was the last time a horse won this without previously having won at at least 3 miles.

may sound obvious but you need a consistently good jumper. Horses with 3 or 4 career falls are best avoided.

previous years Irish grand national does well ( Niche market ).

prominent racers do well.

last year was a freak year with the first 4 all carrying 11 stone or more...as you can see from the list below that is tough to do so preference is given to horses carrying less than 11 stone.

only 1 horse that won at cheltenham has won since 1961.

 

 

Year Horse Age Wgt Trainer Jockey SP

2009 Mon Mome 9 11-0 Miss V Williams Liam Treadwell 100/1

2008 Comply Or Die 9 10-9 D E Pipe Timmy Murphy 7/1JF

2007 Silver Birch 10 10-6 Gordon Elliott R M Power 33/1

2006 Numbersixvalverde 10 10-8 Martin Brassil N P Madden 11/1

2005 Hedgehunter 9 11-1 W P Mullins R Walsh 7/1F

2004 Amberleigh House 12 10-10 D McCain G Lee 16/1

2003 Monty´s Pass 10 10-7 James Joseph Mangan B J Geraghty 16/1

2002 Bindaree 8 10-4 N A Twiston-Davies J Culloty 20/1

2001 Red Marauder 11 10-11 N B Mason Richard Guest 33/1

2000 Papillon 9 10-12 T M Walsh R Walsh 10/1

1999 Bobbyjo 9 10-0 Thomas Carberry P Carberry 10/1

1998 Earth Summit 10 10-5 N A Twiston-Davies C Llewellyn 7/1F

1997 Lord Gyllene 9 10-0 S A Brookshaw A Dobbin 14/1

1996 Rough Quest 10 10-7 T A Casey M A Fitzgerald 7/1f

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I am eliminating from my calculations the top 10 in the weights

abertas run...madison du berlais..notre pere...tarania...our vic...mon mome...black apalachi....joe lively...vic venturi...comply or die

going through the others in betting order

big fella thanks...too young.

tricky trickster....too young

backstage...too young

the package...too young

war of attrition....too old

NICHE MARKET....BET @ 27

STATE OF PLAY..BET @ 27

arbor supreme....too young

SNOWY MORNING...BET 27 - TOP TIP  8)

character building...has tried 4m plus and seemed to not stay.

bally holland...doubtfull stayer

MY WILL...BET @ 46

DONT PUSH IT @ 50

chief dan george...won at cheltenham

maljimar...not won 3m

irish raptor...too old

possol...too young

dream alliance...poor jumper

hello bud...too old

whinstone boy ...needs soft ground

cant buy time....too young

razor royale....too young

king johns castle...too old

CLOUDY LANE...BET 75

iris de balme...form ?

silver birch....too old

palypso de creek....too young

le beau bal...too young

roulez cool....too young

air force one...too young

erics charm....too old

ballyfitz....makes mistakes

abbrybraney...makes mistakes

CERIUM...BET @ 140...was 4th last year as an 8yo and now a 9yo and on the same mark...hasnt won over 3m but cannot argue with last years 4th.

offshore account....makes mistakes

cane brake...too old

joe lively ...too old

 

these are all the horses that are shortest odds in the race as the winner is likely to be in there somewhere.

 

I have backed the above horses win only on betfair and plan to lay each horse in running at roughly 5% of the bet price...obviously leaving a decent profit if catching the winner.

some of the bets are carrying up to 11 stone 5lb but as I am trying to lay in running they could trade short even if the weight does tell in the end.

All the horses are 9 or 10 year old but wouldnt dismiss 11 year olds if you have strong reasons for liking them.

  • Replies 101
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Posted

Fuck me I might actually bet on a decent horse this time rather than picking one by its name.......saying that I would have went for your pick snowy morning as it is a snowy morning.

Posted

Me likey vely muchy!

 

chinaman_01.jpeg

 

Sorry I should hve added that this is not my info but I've been following this chap for a long time and his info is second to none, he puts in 12 hour days and is a pro at this game.

 

If you're not into laying horses in running then just pick your favourite horse and bet each way, I'd say Snowy Morning and State of play are my top tips, bet each way on both, goes without saying that people should only bet what they can afford to lose.

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

My four are Comply Or Die because T.J.Murphy is my favourite jockey and been on him the last two years when winning and finishing second.  Don`t Push It with McCoy as I want to see the great man win it one day.  Eric`s Charm as W.Hutchinson has won me a lot of money in the past and finally Character Building due to the fact there`s a woman riding it.  Only other time I`ve picked the winner was when I had a £1 on Red Marauder at (33/1) in 2001.

Posted

Niche Market, Cloudy Lane, My Will and Don't Push It for me.

 

My sister in law had a wee baby girl last night which is fantastic news obviously. My brother phoned me an hour ago and said, "if you're at a bookies today, can you put £10 on Don't Push It for me because the wife had to have a C-Section last night"  ;D

  • 11 months later...
Posted

Any patter for this year gents?

 

Silver By Nature, was at 40s at the start of the year, is in now to 14s.  Not my tip I'd like to add, but a friend of a friend sort of thing. He told me about it in January and is supposedly having a very good year.

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


×
×
  • Create New...