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[Jute]

How the mighty have fallen.

 

[Elgindon]

Sam Cosgrove to AFC........

....Wimbledon   https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/sport/19888900.deadline-day-birmingham-citys-ex-carlisle-united-striker-sam-cosgrove-joins-afc-wimbledon/

Edited February 1, 2022 by Elgindon

[Jute]

18 minutes ago, Elgindon said:

Sam Cosgrove to AFC........

....Wimbledon   https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/sport/19888900.deadline-day-birmingham-citys-ex-carlisle-united-striker-sam-cosgrove-joins-afc-wimbledon/

One headline yesterday was “Cosgrove joins Dons” and I may have clicked on it. Just out of interest and not blind panic you understand. 

[Jute]

11 hours ago, Jute said:

Alleged Rapist cunt signs for Raith Rovers. Gone down well with some of their fans.

 

Rovers shirt sponsor withdrawn their support over this. 
 

 

[RicoS321]

Nice one Val. Thankfully the Dons would never stoop so low.

[Goldie03]

I thought the Raith Rovers statement was awful - so disappointing 

[RicoS321]

7 hours ago, Goldie03 said:

I thought the Raith Rovers statement was awful - so disappointing 

It was really bad like. Probably worse than anything the Huns have ever written. No moral high ground for us dandies unfortunately, we all knew what we'd signed when he came here.

[Goldie03]

7 hours ago, RicoS321 said:

It was really bad like. Probably worse than anything the Huns have ever written. No moral high ground for us dandies unfortunately, we all knew what we'd signed when he came here.

Absolutely this!

Feel like I'm holding my breath waiting for the RR board to come to their senses and see what they to stand to lose - will be interesting to see the attendance at their next game 

[HaarDon]

Aaron Ramsay has been great for Wales but why are Juve getting rid of him if he's so amazing?

Being great for Wales is like having the biggest dick in a porno starring hamsters.

[Jute]

1 hour ago, HaarDon said:

Aaron Ramsay has been great for Wales but why are Juve getting rid of him if he's so amazing?

Being great for Wales is like having the biggest dick in a porno starring hamsters.

He allegedly had a disagreement with Juventus manager and was dropped. Did play a few games at the start of the season. 

[Elgindon]

2 hours ago, Goldie03 said:

Absolutely this!

Feel like I'm holding my breath waiting for the RR board to come to their senses and see what they to stand to lose - will be interesting to see the attendance at their next game 

See there shirt sponsor has now withdrawn their sponsorship

[BigAl]

Breaking News:

Goodwillie leaving Raith Rovers.

[Jute]

Official statement from Raith. 
 

What a clusterfuck. They paid a fee for him and will now need to pay up his contract with the damage already being done to the clubs reputation and relationship with their supporters. Worst part is they were told what the reaction would be and thought fuck it let’s do it anyway. 

[Goldie03]

Thank fuck they have come to the right decision and shows what a concerted effort  can bring about - here's hoping it leads to more of a recognition how devastating sexual violence against women is and what we can do as a society to change it  

[RicoS321]

The problem is that they're only reversing the decision because people withdrew their support. Their statement directly contradicts everything they said 24 hours before, with zero explanation. We're sorry that you're upset is basically what they're saying. They'll get away with it too. Resigning should be the only course of action for the directors and manager, who were told in advance what the consequences would be. The Raith fans who withdrew their support can't back down now.

As an aside, this is why I don't want us having a sugar daddy rich cunt ploughing his money into AFC. The fans of Raith put together £100k+ (from memory, I think they did anyway!) at the beginning of the pandemic to help fund the club (plus they have a player development fund). They got nothing in return. If those funds had been treated, correctly, as an investment - just like it would be if it was a wealthy business person putting in a lump sum - then they would have had a big say in this transfer. It's precisely the reason I'll never give money to the Aber DNA pish. If you're still giving money to this type of scheme/scam, then don't be surprised when AFC fuck you over in much the same way (like when Milne sided with the Tims in the voting structure). Those funds should return a shareholding and a say. 

[Kowalski]

All the criticism levelled at Raith is absolutely justified, and Goodwillie should just fuck off. 
 

However, there was nowhere near this level of outrage when he signed for Clyde. 

[LightbulbMoment2021]

The outrage wouldn't have been so much if this had happend in say 2019, now I agree with raiths latest statement even though he goodwillie was never found guilty in a court of law. Only a civil case. Anyway everyone likes to jump on the band wagon of outrage course.

[wokinginashearerwonderland]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion of course and what Goodwillie did was awful.  For me, the issue this brings is how bad does the crime have to be before you are no longer allowed to do your job again?  Is what Goodwillie did deemed to be worse than what Declan Gallagher did, which he spent three years inside for?  Yet, Gallagher plays in our first team and has been capped for Scotland in recent months.  Just playing devils advocate here but supposing he was a car mechanic, should he never be allowed to be a mechanic again?  Gazza allegedly beat up his wife yet is widely acclaimed.  Just for curiosity, I was searching for a Goodwillie thread on this site last night to gauge the feel for when he was our player and seems a number of our fans were quite happy to have him at the beginning so none of us should get too high and mighty over this one.

[RicoS321]

43 minutes ago, wokinginashearerwonderland said:

Everyone is entitled to their opinion of course and what Goodwillie did was awful.  For me, the issue this brings is how bad does the crime have to be before you are no longer allowed to do your job again?  Is what Goodwillie did deemed to be worse than what Declan Gallagher did, which he spent three years inside for?  Yet, Gallagher plays in our first team and has been capped for Scotland in recent months.  Just playing devils advocate here but supposing he was a car mechanic, should he never be allowed to be a mechanic again?  Gazza allegedly beat up his wife yet is widely acclaimed.  Just for curiosity, I was searching for a Goodwillie thread on this site last night to gauge the feel for when he was our player and seems a number of our fans were quite happy to have him at the beginning so none of us should get too high and mighty over this one.

Rape is worse than assault. Try and imagine for a second, a man putting his dick up your arse when you're too pished to defend yourself. Most blokes trying to defend goodwillie would likely, and justifiably, be close to suicide if that happened to them. It's no different for this girl. Read the transcript from the court case before commenting. It's fucking disgusting. He got off with it because of a failed justice system. It's pretty fucking easy for most right thinking people to think their way critically through these issues, you're not saying anything particularly profound here, you're not making people think. It's straight forward. You rape someone in such explicit and clearcut circumstances and you lose any right to a career with a public profile, whether your Goodwillie or Spacey. He can quietly fuck off and be a car mechanic if a garage will have him. Somewhere the girl doesn't have to see his name mentioned in the press every time he does something. 

[Slim]

Any business whether a football team or a garage is entitled to hire a rapist to represent them.

Just as the customers, sponsors, suppliers and employees of any business are entitled to revoke their association with any business that has a rapist representing them.

He should be allowed to play for Raith Rovers in the same way everyone should be allowed to boycott the fuck out of Raith Rovers if he does.

He may have settled the debt he was ordered to pay by the court but he hasn’t settled his debt with society. 
 

Fuck him.

[RicoS321]

1 hour ago, LightbulbMoment2021 said:

The outrage wouldn't have been so much if this had happend in say 2019, now I agree with raiths latest statement even though he goodwillie was never found guilty in a court of law. Only a civil case. Anyway everyone likes to jump on the band wagon of outrage course.

It doesn't sound like you do agree with Raith's latest statement at all. 

[RicoS321]

1 hour ago, Kowalski said:

All the criticism levelled at Raith is absolutely justified, and Goodwillie should just fuck off. 
 

However, there was nowhere near this level of outrage when he signed for Clyde. 

Surely that's a good thing? I mean, aside from the blatantly obvious fucking reasons that signing for full-time Raith might provoke more of a reaction than signing for a part-time side bottom of the spfl at the time, that a world famous writer removing their sponsorship might turn a few heads that might otherwise not have heard of Goodwillie before, if society is recognising rape in a more serious and unforgiving light is that regression or progression in your eyes? There's no fucking bandwagon here, just greater publicity for something that people are fairly disgusted by. But let's not overlook the fact that plenty were outraged when he joined Clyde, as a basic Google search would show. Plenty of Clyde fans chose not to follow the club anymore. Rape crisis Scotland (think that's what they're called) were just as outraged as they are now. 

[RicoS321]

2 hours ago, wokinginashearerwonderland said:

Just for curiosity, I was searching for a Goodwillie thread on this site last night to gauge the feel for when he was our player and seems a number of our fans were quite happy to have him at the beginning so none of us should get too high and mighty over this one.

I'd say it's because of this we should be vocal. We were wrong. I still attended dons matches, when I should have told them to go and fuck themselves. I had read what he'd done, and read the interviews his victim had given - refusing her own anonymity. Yet in the years that followed, we all sat in a ground with other fans singing "we know she said yes" and "he shags who he wants". It was a fucking stain, and we should be embarrassed. The fact that as a club and individually (I don't speak for everyone, just me), we're hypocrites, is neither here nor there. We can still be both vocal and severely critical of Raith because we've seen first hand the reality of it and can look back on it self critically. 

[LightbulbMoment2021]

1 hour ago, RicoS321 said:

It doesn't sound like you do agree with Raith's latest statement at all. 

What in the fuck are you talking about you utter  knob? I'm only clearly saying pre 2020 there woudnt have been as much outrage you clown!! 

[RicoS321]

24 minutes ago, LightbulbMoment2021 said:

What in the fuck are you talking about you utter  knob? I'm only clearly saying pre 2020 there woudnt have been as much outrage you clown!! 

That's not clear from what you've written at all. 

It's a very strange thing to pick up on too. It's a weird angle to take on rape. It's a crime that's second only to child molestation, but you seem to be concerned about the level of outrage. I could understand if you were saying that you're encouraged that more people in society are now outraged by two guys escorting a paralytic girl from a night club, telling concerned bouncers that they were taking her to the hospital, before taking her to a friend's flat before - both - raping her and leaving her naked and alone in the empty building, but you're not. For some bizarre reason, you're charting the trajectory of outrage over time.