Harcus Posted August 19, 2010 Report Posted August 19, 2010 Are there that many using students tickets? And surely any teething problems should be dealt with at the Killie game, at which Pittodrie would be doing well to half empty! Quote
Madbadteacher Posted August 19, 2010 Report Posted August 19, 2010 All i forsee is long que chaos, with a half empty Pittodrie at kick off im afraid. They've put Manuel from Fawlty Towers in charge? Quote
jmo Posted August 19, 2010 Report Posted August 19, 2010 I got my ST as part of a 'Family Concession Package' that being one adult and two students paying £80 less than it would be to get them individually. The tickets themselves all say 'Family Conc Pack' on them with no way of knowing which two are the student ones and which is the adult one, I'm wondering whether all three of us would need to go in at the same time with two student cards to prove two of us are students or if it doesn't matter. Quote
Ptayles Posted August 19, 2010 Report Posted August 19, 2010 I might get hit here I went in to renew my season ticket and they didnt even bother checking whether or not i was still a student Quote
glasgowdon Posted August 19, 2010 Report Posted August 19, 2010 I'd say there will be more people taking them back than paying full price. Moving the goal posts from AFC a bit here, interesting to see how this turns out. Quote
tom_widdows Posted August 19, 2010 Report Posted August 19, 2010 How is it moving the goalposts? Do the terms of a student ticket say 'you can use this if yer not a student because we definetly wont bother checking if you are or not'? Is it possible to obtain a refund for a purchase you obtained dishonestly? Quote
glasgowdon Posted August 19, 2010 Report Posted August 19, 2010 How is it moving the goalposts? Do the terms of a student ticket say 'you can use this if yer not a student because we definetly wont bother checking if you are or not'? Is it possible to obtain a refund for a purchase you obtained dishonestly? This functionality was only put in place after they'd sold however many of them they have. Can see a few empty seats as people have season tickets they can't use. Not saying they haven't got the right to enforce it but doing it after people have handed over their money is a bit sneaky. Quote
tom_widdows Posted August 19, 2010 Report Posted August 19, 2010 about as sneaky as the people that took advantage of it in the first place. Im thinking there will be a lot of people paying £10 to switch to 10game ticket Quote
glasgowdon Posted August 19, 2010 Report Posted August 19, 2010 about as sneaky as the people that took advantage of it in the first place. Im thinking there will be a lot of people paying £10 to switch to 10game ticket Don't think there was anything sneaky about it really. Not any sneakier than getting friends fares to Aberdeen and getting off in Dundee anyway. Quote
TENEMENTFUNSTER Posted August 19, 2010 Report Posted August 19, 2010 I rest my case So you still reckon you wouldn't use someone else's ST to get in though? Quote
TENEMENTFUNSTER Posted August 19, 2010 Report Posted August 19, 2010 about as sneaky as the people that took advantage of it in the first place. Im thinking there will be a lot of people paying £10 to switch to 10game ticket So, in your own terms, very sneaky then. Quote
tom_widdows Posted August 19, 2010 Report Posted August 19, 2010 Don't think there was anything sneaky about it really. Not any sneakier than getting friends fares to Aberdeen and getting off in Dundee anyway. If i was to buy a friends fare to aberdeen and then stay on the train if it went to dyce (or for some reason onwards to inverness) then that is dishonest because I have only paid to go as far as the Granite city. If i get off 3-4 stations early thats fine because im using Scotrails facilities for less time than what I paid for. On the way back ive paid for a seat on a train that leaves Aberdeen at a certain time. If I get on said train 3-4 stations later thats fine because im using Scotrails facilities less than what I paid for. Dont recall any terms that say you must be on the train the whole journey. The friends fare is the same price for adults, students, children OAPs etc. Only condition is you must buy at least 3 tickets and be on a certain train. Try to use it on another train and the conductor is entitled to charge you a full price fare If I was to buy an annual scotrail student ticket and use if for those journeys when im not a student, that is classed as fraud because ive obtained a discount im not entitled to. Result if caught would be a fine and possibly a ban from using their trains. If they were so inclined I believe they can bring criminal charges against me At the same timeby buying a student or concession season ticket when you are neither, you have obtained a discount you are not entitled to. Every home game you attend you have cheated the club out of £12. Ill be interested to see what the club policy on this is since the season ticket terms and conditions dont seem to be available online. I cant be the only one to think its more than a coincidence the student season ticket debate starts on here last week and this week the club suddenly introduce their new policy. I do wonder if a few ticket office workers are getting their balls booted for not asking for student IDs etc during the renewals Quote
dave_min Posted August 20, 2010 Report Posted August 20, 2010 So it's ok to ignore the terms and conditions when buying rail tickets, but not ok when buying football tickets? Thanks for clearing that up tom. Quote
Goldie03 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Posted August 20, 2010 So you still reckon you wouldn't use someone else's ST to get in though? I've never done that - I have had free tickets a couple of times through Bank of Scotland and at the Falkirk game last season through the season ticket offer - other than that I have always paid full price Quote
TENEMENTFUNSTER Posted August 20, 2010 Report Posted August 20, 2010 I've never done that - I have had free tickets a couple of times through Bank of Scotland and at the Falkirk game last season through the season ticket offer - other than that I have always paid full price I never said that you did. Quote
Penfold Posted August 20, 2010 Report Posted August 20, 2010 This functionality was only put in place after they'd sold however many of them they have. Can see a few empty seats as people have season tickets they can't use. Not saying they haven't got the right to enforce it but doing it after people have handed over their money is a bit sneaky. The functionality has always been there. The flashing lights of different colours have been there since the electronic turnstiles came in with stewards standing in the areas just as you go in, who were supposed to be checking them. The amount of folk bragging about scamming the club has obviously led them to think the current system wasnt working so they need to narrow down the area concessions can get in (which is the case at most pay at the gate turnstiles) so they can have the stewards in the correct place to properly check. I don't think you should be entitled to a refund, especially after you've already used it for a match. Quote
capitalsharpie Posted August 20, 2010 Report Posted August 20, 2010 Why dont they just have a manny behind the turnstiles looking at folks tickets and/or id's, whilst selling tickets to folk who just turn up on the day? Oh no wait..... Quote
Snapper Posted August 20, 2010 Report Posted August 20, 2010 http://www.afc.co.uk/articles/20100819/turnstile-changes-for-u12-and-student-tickets_2212158_2127511 Looks like all the cheapskates that have been paying student/u12 prices when they should have paid full price are in for an embarassing situation when they try to enter the ground... it's incredible that they've only just introduced this. I know some guys who bought a mixture of adult & concession cards then shared the costs evenly, they've been doing this for years. When I was offered an under 12's ticket for a midweek game I never took it as I was sure the lights would flash differently, or the stewards would have some way of telling that I was using the wrong card. Only 7 or so years too late. Quote
glasgowdon Posted August 20, 2010 Report Posted August 20, 2010 If i was to buy a friends fare to aberdeen and then stay on the train if it went to dyce (or for some reason onwards to inverness) then that is dishonest because I have only paid to go as far as the Granite city. If i get off 3-4 stations early thats fine because im using Scotrails facilities for less time than what I paid for. On the way back ive paid for a seat on a train that leaves Aberdeen at a certain time. If I get on said train 3-4 stations later thats fine because im using Scotrails facilities less than what I paid for. Dont recall any terms that say you must be on the train the whole journey. The friends fare is the same price for adults, students, children OAPs etc. Only condition is you must buy at least 3 tickets and be on a certain train. Try to use it on another train and the conductor is entitled to charge you a full price fare If I was to buy an annual scotrail student ticket and use if for those journeys when im not a student, that is classed as fraud because ive obtained a discount im not entitled to. Result if caught would be a fine and possibly a ban from using their trains. If they were so inclined I believe they can bring criminal charges against me At the same timeby buying a student or concession season ticket when you are neither, you have obtained a discount you are not entitled to. Every home game you attend you have cheated the club out of £12. Ill be interested to see what the club policy on this is since the season ticket terms and conditions dont seem to be available online. I cant be the only one to think its more than a coincidence the student season ticket debate starts on here last week and this week the club suddenly introduce their new policy. I do wonder if a few ticket office workers are getting their balls booted for not asking for student IDs etc during the renewals Basically, it's ok to use a student ticket if you leave a game early? You're still not paying the full fare regardless of when you get on/off. Agree, I think the club noticed it on here and paid Microsoft (I think?) the extra money to implement this. Quote
TENEMENTFUNSTER Posted August 20, 2010 Report Posted August 20, 2010 I don't think anyone will be getting either balls or cunt booted over this. But I stand by what I said and the likes of glasgowdon and the many others who would get a hooky ticket will not be coughing anything the club's way. There will be less folk at games and less money at the club. But I notice no-one has said whether they would use someone else's season ticket or not. I'll assume the answer is no then? Quote
glasgowdon Posted August 20, 2010 Report Posted August 20, 2010 I don't think anyone will be getting either balls or cunt booted over this. But I stand by what I said and the likes of glasgowdon and the many others who would get a hooky ticket will not be coughing anything the club's way. There will be less folk at games and less money at the club. But I notice no-one has said whether they would use someone else's season ticket or not. I'll assume the answer is no then? I can still get one legitimately anyway. As for your second point, don't be ridiculous. Why would any of the high integrity supercitizens on here commit such a heinous act? Quote
TENEMENTFUNSTER Posted August 20, 2010 Report Posted August 20, 2010 I can still get one legitimately anyway. As for your second point, don't be ridiculous. Why would any of the high integrity supercitizens on here commit such a heinous act? It must be gratifying for the club that we have such upright and honest cunts in the support. I certainly feel much more secure about the clubs financial future knowing they're there. Quote
Tyrant Posted August 20, 2010 Author Report Posted August 20, 2010 I made the point elsewhere that I believe the club will lose money over this. Aye they're within their rights to ask for student ID but a lot of folk simply can't pay full price and although they've conveniently waited until after the vast majority had purchased theirs I can see their sales taking a hit next season if folk know they won't get away with buying a student ticket. And I bet it's a fair few times £180! As I said I think AFC have shot themselves in the foot a bit. If all the fans were as honest and as up-standing as on here it wouldn't be a problem right enough. Quote
TENEMENTFUNSTER Posted August 20, 2010 Report Posted August 20, 2010 I made the point elsewhere that I believe the club will lose money over this. Aye they're within their rights to ask for student ID but a lot of folk simply can't pay full price and although they've conveniently waited until after the vast majority had purchased theirs I can see their sales taking a hit next season if folk know they won't get away with buying a student ticket. And I bet it's a fair few times £180! As I said I think AFC have shot themselves in the foot a bit. If all the fans were as honest and as up-standing as on here it wouldn't be a problem right enough. Completely agree. Quote
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