TENEMENTFUNSTER Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Bosses from outside Scotland have had a pretty pitiful record recently, Jim Gannon, Tony Mowbray, Paul Le Guen even McGhee's career has largely been in England. Clubs who have been successful in Scotland recently have been managed by Scots. Not many exceptions to that. O'Neill even was eclipsed by McLeish and Wim Jansen only lasted one season. Advocaat did well with the huns crippling overdraft, aside from that I can't mind many successful foreign managers. Csaba Laszlo? Mixu Paatelainen? Ivan Golac? Jo Venglos? Stephen Kenny? John Collins? Harri Kampman? Uncle Ebbe? Berti Vogts? It doesn't matter where they are from, as long as they can do a job getting us the fuck out of the mire McGhee has landed us in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harcus Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Butcher surely has to be an option we consider. He'll almost certainly be on the minds of the board. However, I don't think the man himself would be that interested, he's settled in Inverness, he has a team playing for him. Why would he risk that for what seems at the moment to be a sideways step at best? There's also the issue of compensation, and besides, he's a big dirty hun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harcus Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Is Toni Kombaure beyond our reach now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Is Toni Kombaure beyond our reach now? Should we really be looking at people in their 80s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 It doesn't matter where they are from, as long as they can do a job getting us the fuck out of the mire McGhee has landed us in. This worries me more than anything, the fact that you think the mess was all down to Mcghee, only means our next manager is going to encounter the same problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENEMENTFUNSTER Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 This worries me more than anything, the fact that you think the mess was all down to Mcghee, only means our next manager is going to encounter the same problem. What does what I think really matter? The idea that McGhee is wholly culpable is ridiculous. Of course it is. But the idea that it was just circumstances that put us where we are and McGhee was powerless is equally ridiculous and just ignores a great deal of the facts. He was rid rotten and responsible for what went onto the pitch and what the results are, despite what he said and what you think and is gone, far later than he fucking should have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Dream is over for McGhee STARK, HUGHES, BUTCHER AND MCGLYNN IN FRAME AS GOTHENBURG GREAT IS FIRED AFTER 18 TORRID MONTHS By Michael Gannon Published: 02/12/2010 Mark McGhee was last night sacked as Aberdeen manager. The Gothenburg Great’s torrid 18 months at the helm was brought to an end after a board meeting yesterday afternoon. Assistant manager Scott Leitch and coach Colin Meldrum have also been dismissed. The former Motherwell, Wolves and Leicester manager’s time was up after a run of six consecutive SPL defeats, including a record 9-0 hammering at Celtic on November 6, which sent the Dons plummeting to second-bottom of the SPL. McGhee survived the aftermath of the Parkhead humiliation, but the required turnaround failed to materialise and the Dons fell to further defeats against St Johnstone, Caley Thistle and Kilmarnock. Pittodrie chairman Stewart Milne was left with no option but to dismiss another manager with McGhee having won just once in the last 13 league matches and just 17 of his 62 games in charge. The club insist there is no immediate candidate lined up and, with the postponement of this weekend’s match against Celtic, Milne has more than a week to find and hire a new management team. The decision to sack McGhee was announced in a statement last night, with Milne and director of football Willie Miller refusing to comment. Milne’s statement said: “On behalf of everyone at the club, I would like to thank Mark, Scott and Colin for their time at Aberdeen. It goes without saying everyone at Aberdeen Football Club wishes Mark, Scott and Colin every success in the future.” Milne and the Dons board have refused to set a timetable on appointing a replacement, but inquiries have been ongoing. Scotland under-21 coach Billy Stark, a former Aberdeen player, has been sounded out and several others are being considered. The stock of Caley Thistle manager Terry Butcher has never been higher, but the financial constraints at Pittodrie suggest it would be difficult to prise the former Rangers captain from Inverness. Former Hibs manager John Hughes will be in the frame after being considered for the position before McGhee was appointed. Hughes is out of work following his sacking by the Easter Road club in October following a disappointing start to the campaign. Raith Rovers’ John McGlynn is another whose work has been admired and the possibility of a managerial partnership with club captain Paul Hartley has found some favour. The Dons have dismissed talk of a return for McGhee’s predecessor Jimmy Calderwood, although former Dons coach Sandy Clark last night said the former manager would return to Pittodrie “in a heartbeat”. Jim Leighton, whom McGhee sacked as Aberdeen goalkeeper coach, said: “Since the Celtic game, and even before, there was a lot of negativity around the club and the supporters have been staying away in droves. It is important to get the right man as there is a serious threat of relegation.” John Hughes GTF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENEMENTFUNSTER Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Hughes, Stark, no. That pair being considered is fucking frightening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstar Tradesman Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Like it or lump it, Hughes will be manager until the end of the season because we don't need to pay anything to get him. Milne will be rubbing his cold little hands and licking his lips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 We don't need to pay anything to get Jocky Scott, or Willie Miller for that matter, if we wanted them until the end of the season! John Hughes would be the next Alex Miller and that's a FACT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jute Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 If they got Yogi in they would drive even more people away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstar Tradesman Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 If they got Yogi in they would drive even more people away. Fans you mean? Like that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 The Herald: McGhee sacked: Kilmarnock proves one defeat too far Michael Grant 2 Dec 2010 ABERDEEN’s priority will be to find an experienced, safe pair of hands who can remove any prospect of relegation as they begin the search for Mark McGhee’s successor. The terms of reference within Pittodrie will mean they would favour an older candidate such as Motherwell’s Craig Brown rather than a promising young coach like St Johnstone’s Derek McInnes. John Hughes, Terry Butcher, Billy Stark, Jocky Scott are other names being considered at boardoom level but Aberdeen recognise their options are limited. There are few eligible and available candidates at the moment and little money for the new man to improve a desperately unimpressive squad. The situation is ominous because of the club’s position – 11th – in the table. Aberdeen have never been relegated but the board are fearful they face a battle to prevent it happening this season. McGhee became the second managerial casualty of the SPL season when he was called to a meeting with chairman Stewart Milne at tea-time last night. Assistant Scott Leitch and goalkeeping coach Colin Meldrum were also dismissed. Milne acted after a run of six straight defeats – including a devastating 9-0 loss away to Celtic – which left Aberdeen above Hamilton Academical only on goal difference at the bottom. Attendances had also deteriorated as supporters turned their back on the club. The decisive performance was an awful display at Kilmarnock last Saturday which convinced Milne that McGhee, a club legend as Gothenburg hero, could not turn things around. A board meeting was held yesterday afternoon, before the postponement of Saturday’s game against Celtic. The decision meant a compensation package being paid to a sacked management team for the second year running, with McGhee, Leitch and Meldrum due more than £300,000 for the termination of their deals. McGhee was on a one-year rolling contract. “On behalf of everyone at the club I would like to thank Mark, Scott and Colin for their time at Aberdeen,” said Milne in a brief statement on the club website. “It goes without saying that everyone wishes Mark, Scott and Colin every success in the future.” Former manager Jimmy Calderwood will not be given the opportunity to return but Aberdeen will attempt to be patient and examine all the options before appointing only their third manager in six-and-a-half years. Former Scotland coach Brown, 70, inevitably appeals to a club in need of a steady hand although any approach for him may be difficult because his assistant, Archie Knox, is a close friend of McGhee. Coaches Neil Simpson and Neil Cooper will oversee training in the meantime and may be asked to take the club’s next game, away to Hearts in nine days’ time, if the new manager has not been appointed by then. McGhee was not available for comment last night but is expected to return to England, where he lived before beginning a successful spell in charge of Motherwell in 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harcus Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 6-5 Billy Stark 5-1 John Hughes 6-1 Derek McInnes 7-1 Derek Adams 10-1 Steve Clarke 12-1 John McGlynn 12-1 Billy Reid 12-1 John Collins 16-1 Mike Newell 16-1 Gordon Strachan 20-1 Dean Windass Odds from McBookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Jesus wept. Steve Clarke from that list. Presume Butcher has ruled himself out then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyBiscuit Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Jesus wept. x2. Worst list of candidates I've ever seen for the Dons job. Be as well chucking A.F. Miller and Aitken in there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggy89 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Eddie Howe would be the pick of the English lower league managers at the moment and has worked miracles with absolutely no money at all. He also knows how to create a defence out of one centre back so could surely do it with four. But they're in a play-off position for the Championship and Bournemouth is a hell of a long way from Aberdeen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Fucking hell - be as well shutting up the doors just now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kowalski Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Evening Express has Billy Stark all over the back page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunblanedon Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 More worryingly the Scottish Hun suggests a greater role being played by Willie Miller. Surely he is just as culpable as McGhee for taking a salary that could pay a decent players wages - and for what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENEMENTFUNSTER Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Evening Express has Billy Stark all over the back page. All very well, but who's destiny awaits him in London Scottish's head? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azteca1903 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Steve Clarke is certainly persuing a management job in his own right - I believed he recently turned down the Newcastle assistant role for this reason. Could he, as an unproven manager, attract a better club than Aberdeen? Do we want an unproven manager? Does anyone care anymore? Fits abdy havin for lunch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDU_64 Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Steve Clarke wouldn't be too bad an option and not one to be dismissed too readily. IMHO. May bring a bit different methods to the club and given that he was an assistant manager/coach at Chelsea and West Ham, he may be able to get the best out of the players at training. Might also be the man to get a bit of reaction from the players given that he worked with big names and players at Chelsea. He could also phone up his mate Jose and ask him for a couple of loan deals! Although he has no experience as manager in his own right so would be dodgy giving him the job when we seem to be looking at more experienced men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc_don Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 All very well, but who's destiny awaits him in London Scottish's head? More importantly, who is he collaborating with?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyBiscuit Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Hate to worry you all, but Craig Brewster has just resigned as Ross County assistant manager.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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