mizer Posted July 12, 2012 Author Report Posted July 12, 2012 Rangers have won more league championships than any other team in the world: Aye by cheating you corrupt cunt! Quote
glasgow sheep Posted July 12, 2012 Report Posted July 12, 2012 Aye by cheating you corrupt cunt! What the fuck does this have to do with Seveco Scotland Ltd? Anyway apparently Clyde will be voting to deny Seveco entry to the SFL altogether. Quote
mizer Posted July 12, 2012 Author Report Posted July 12, 2012 What the fuck does this have to do with Seveco Scotland Ltd? Anyway apparently Clyde will be voting to deny Seveco entry to the SFL altogether. We are all Clyde! Quote
glasgow sheep Posted July 12, 2012 Report Posted July 12, 2012 Alloa the latest club to state the bleeding obvious. Quite how MSM can ignore this so completely is beyond me, the story should be that Seveco are lucky to get anywhere near SFL3 never mind SFL1 While we understand that today's vote will be by secret ballot we have decided that our fans should be advised of the clubs voting intentions before the meeting to allow for clarity and avoid any ambiguity on how we interpret the situation. We believe that the SPL and possibly the SFA should have taken an earlier and more decisive stance on this issue, instead they ducked their responsibilities until such times that they were no longer in control of the situation. They then, somewhat bizarrely, came to the SFL meeting and asked us to vote as they wished (against sporting principles) and not as they had done. Incredibly they then proceeded to threaten our organisation with dire outcomes and implied threats if we did not bend to their joint will. Even after this Alloa held our own counsel to await our fans responses and the promised response from the SPL and SFA. We can advise that our fans were decisively against the Newco having direct entry into division one. Again what we received from the SPL was somewhat surprising. While many of the suggested improvements to the structures of Scottish football moving forward are progressive and long overdue, incredibly, they were then caveated with the condition that the SPL would take complete control, with an inbuilt majority on any new structured board 3 to 2. This would effectively give control of the whole of Scottish senior football to the failed management structure of the SPL. As we previously advised in our first statement, we would do what we believed was in the best interest of Alloa FC, Scottish Football and sporting integrity. Fortunately we believe that the best interests of all three are mutual. Alloa can see no reason to vote in any way other than to put the new Rangers in the league that there own manager and fans have asked for, division three. We hope that everyone involved in football takes this opportunity to remind ourselves that to a large extent the fans are Scottish football, without them what is the point? We must remember we are here to manage and administer our National game and not to implement anyones narrow will against the avalanche of public and fan opinion, using the excuse of promises of changes which should be taking place anyway. Financially there may be difficult times ahead, but we would rather face that than agree to sell out for short term financial gain or bend to threats and vote for a flawed proposal. Quote
dave_min Posted July 12, 2012 Report Posted July 12, 2012 It was pretty obvious who there was a proper journalist and who was just an arsehole. Quote
Jute Posted July 12, 2012 Report Posted July 12, 2012 Did anyone notice that at the start of the piece that STV claimed that SFL 1 is the SPL clubs preferred option. Contradicts statements from our chairman. Wonder if we will set record straight tomorrow before the meeting. Quote
tom_widdows Posted July 12, 2012 Report Posted July 12, 2012 Lets see now Real Madrid - 32 League titles - 9 European cups/ Champs league titles (12 finals) AC Milan - 18 League Titles - 7 European cups/ Champs leagues (11 finals) Liverpool - 18 League titles - 5 European cups/ Champions leagues (7 finals) Bayern Munich - 22 league titles - 5 European cups/ Champs leagues (9 finals) Barcelona - 21 league titles - 4 European cups/ champs leagues (7 finals) Ajax - 31 league titles - 4 European cups/ champs leagues (6 finals) Inter Milan - 18 league titles - 3 European cups/ champs leagues (5 finals) Man Utd - 19 league titles - 3 European cups/ champs leagues (5 finals) Benfica - 32 league titles - 2 European cups/ champs leagues (5 finals) Juventus - 30 League titles - 2 European cups/ champs leagues (5 finals) Nottingham Forest - 1 league title - 2 European cups (2 finals) Porto - 26 league titles - 2 European cups/ champs leagues (2 finals) Celtic - 43 league titles - 1 European cup/ champs leagues (2 finals) Hamburg - 6 league titles - 1 European cup/ champs leagues (2 finals) Steau Bucharest - 23 league titles - 1 European cup/ champs league (2 finals) Marseille - 9 league titles - 1 European cup/ champs leagues (2 finals) Chelsea - 4 league titles - 1 European cup/ champs leagues (2 finals) Feyenoord - 14 league titles - 1 European cup/ champs leagues Aston Villa - 7 league titles - 1 European cup/ champs leagues PSV Eindhoven - 21 league titles - 1 European cup/ champs leagues Red Star Belgrade - 25 league titles - 1 European cup/ champs leagues Boussia Dortmund - 8 league titles - 1 European cup/ champs leagues Rangers - 54 league titles - FUCK ALL CHAMPS LEAGUE HISTORY Quote
baggy89 Posted July 12, 2012 Report Posted July 12, 2012 Lets see now Real Madrid - 32 League titles - 9 European cups/ Champs league titles (12 finals) AC Milan - 18 League Titles - 7 European cups/ Champs leagues (11 finals) Liverpool - 18 League titles - 5 European cups/ Champions leagues (7 finals) Bayern Munich - 22 league titles - 5 European cups/ Champs leagues (9 finals) Barcelona - 21 league titles - 4 European cups/ champs leagues (7 finals) Ajax - 31 league titles - 4 European cups/ champs leagues (6 finals) Inter Milan - 18 league titles - 3 European cups/ champs leagues (5 finals) Man Utd - 19 league titles - 3 European cups/ champs leagues (5 finals) Benfica - 32 league titles - 2 European cups/ champs leagues (5 finals) Juventus - 30 League titles - 2 European cups/ champs leagues (5 finals) Nottingham Forest - 1 league title - 2 European cups (2 finals) Porto - 26 league titles - 2 European cups/ champs leagues (2 finals) Celtic - 43 league titles - 1 European cup/ champs leagues (2 finals) Hamburg - 6 league titles - 1 European cup/ champs leagues (2 finals) Steau Bucharest - 23 league titles - 1 European cup/ champs league (2 finals) Marseille - 9 league titles - 1 European cup/ champs leagues (2 finals) Chelsea - 4 league titles - 1 European cup/ champs leagues (2 finals) Feyenoord - 14 league titles - 1 European cup/ champs leagues Aston Villa - 7 league titles - 1 European cup/ champs leagues PSV Eindhoven - 21 league titles - 1 European cup/ champs leagues Red Star Belgrade - 25 league titles - 1 European cup/ champs leagues Boussia Dortmund - 8 league titles - 1 European cup/ champs leagues Rangers - 54 league titles - FUCK ALL CHAMPS LEAGUE HISTORY Sevco 5088/Scotland Ltd - 0 league titles - 0 European cup/ champs leagues - 0 players - 0 leagues to play in - 0 money - 0 ... Quote
glasgow sheep Posted July 12, 2012 Report Posted July 12, 2012 Sevco 5088/Scotland Ltd - 0 league titles - 0 European cup/ champs leagues - 0 players - 0 leagues to play in - 0 money - 0 ... tbf they do have 8 players.......I think Quote
Madbadteacher Posted July 12, 2012 Report Posted July 12, 2012 Lets see now Real Madrid - 32 League titles - 9 European cups/ Champs league titles (12 finals) AC Milan - 18 League Titles - 7 European cups/ Champs leagues (11 finals) Liverpool - 18 League titles - 5 European cups/ Champions leagues (7 finals) Bayern Munich - 22 league titles - 5 European cups/ Champs leagues (9 finals) Barcelona - 21 league titles - 4 European cups/ champs leagues (7 finals) Ajax - 31 league titles - 4 European cups/ champs leagues (6 finals) Inter Milan - 18 league titles - 3 European cups/ champs leagues (5 finals) Man Utd - 19 league titles - 3 European cups/ champs leagues (5 finals) Benfica - 32 league titles - 2 European cups/ champs leagues (5 finals) Juventus - 30 League titles - 2 European cups/ champs leagues (5 finals) Nottingham Forest - 1 league title - 2 European cups (2 finals) Porto - 26 league titles - 2 European cups/ champs leagues (2 finals) Celtic - 43 league titles - 1 European cup/ champs leagues (2 finals) Hamburg - 6 league titles - 1 European cup/ champs leagues (2 finals) Steau Bucharest - 23 league titles - 1 European cup/ champs league (2 finals) Marseille - 9 league titles - 1 European cup/ champs leagues (2 finals) Chelsea - 4 league titles - 1 European cup/ champs leagues (2 finals) Feyenoord - 14 league titles - 1 European cup/ champs leagues Aston Villa - 7 league titles - 1 European cup/ champs leagues PSV Eindhoven - 21 league titles - 1 European cup/ champs leagues Red Star Belgrade - 25 league titles - 1 European cup/ champs leagues Boussia Dortmund - 8 league titles - 1 European cup/ champs leagues Rangers - 54 league titles - FUCK ALL CHAMPS LEAGUE HISTORY Forgot "......-54 league titles, (but in reality a lot less when you take away bribing, cheating, bullying and self-serving bigotry)......." Quote
manc_don Posted July 13, 2012 Report Posted July 13, 2012 Dunfermline chairman John Yorkston tells @bbcgms not to rule out a #Rangers newco getting into SPL if SFL vote them into 3rd Division Quote
BobbyBiscuit Posted July 13, 2012 Report Posted July 13, 2012 Forgot "......-54 league titles, (but in reality a lot less when you take away bribing, cheating, bullying and self-serving bigotry)......." Also forgot: Only team to win a European trophy and to then receive the silverware inside as their own fans were rioting outside. Yes, rioting after they had won. That's the sort of people we're fucking dealing with here. Quote
Jute Posted July 13, 2012 Report Posted July 13, 2012 Never gonna happen Not so sure. I think the resaon they have held off voting on who gets up is to keep a space open to readmit Newco if SFL does not give into pressure and do as the SPL wants by putting them into SFL 1. Quote
Kowalski Posted July 13, 2012 Report Posted July 13, 2012 Ayr United: We will vote yes to allowing Newco Rangers into the SFL as an associate member and agree to permit Rangers F.C. to play in the league 2012/13. The logic behind this is that they have the facilities and fan base that the league is looking for. The fact that it could go against the rule book is a question for the SFL and not us. We will vote no on the agenda item that allows Rangers into the 3rd division, but 1st division if the SFL board agree terms with the SPL and SFA on measures “improving” the game. Our representative has been instructed that if the agenda item is altered to allow Rangers into the 3rd division full stop, that we will vote yes, but not on any agenda item that allows Rangers into the 1st. Finally, we will vote yes to allow either Dunfermline or Dundee to resign from the SFL and be admitted to the SPL for the upcoming season. Quote
glasgow sheep Posted July 13, 2012 Report Posted July 13, 2012 Not so sure. I think the resaon they have held off voting on who gets up is to keep a space open to readmit Newco if SFL does not give into pressure and do as the SPL wants by putting them into SFL 1. There really would be "Armageddon" if this happened Quote
glasgow sheep Posted July 13, 2012 Report Posted July 13, 2012 Fuck yeah http://www.clydefc.co.uk/statement2.html Fri, 13th Jul 2012 9:14am The proposals to change the league structure, its governance and distribution model are indeed for the good of the game. What is not for the good of the game are the circumstances in which it has been proposed. It is only on the table for short-term financial reasons. Neil Doncaster told the SFL clubs that the SPL would not allow Rangers to join the Third Division as the loss of £16m would not be countenanced, he is also on record as having said that a 16 team league would cost £20m, therefore we can hardly have confidence that the focus on finance will allow these proposals to come to life. What is also not for the good of the game is 30 clubs being asked to vote knowing that a vote for Resolution 1 has a very high chance of being ignored by the SFA attempting to avoid any suggestion of what they perceive to be a dereliction of their duty. Such statements undermine basic democracy. Equally, voting blind to admit an organisation who has no membership of the SFA at a time when there is no vacancy in the SFL is not for the good of the game. Almost everything about this long run process is not for the good of the game. It would not be for the good of the game to compound the problems of a club by refusing entry to the SFL for Rangers Football Club. We will therefore take that leap of faith and vote in favour of Resolution 1 despite not a single word of reasoning having been provided to support the Resolution. On the basis that short-term financial drivers have not been for the good of the game in the past, then we will not support Resolution 2. It has unfortunately enmeshed positive change for the game with a proposal to admit Sevco Scotland Ltd to the First Division for the purposes of shoring up the short-term financial model which has to date failed The Game. The interests of the game will be served by decisions being made genuinely for the long-term benefit of the whole of Scottish Football, and not short term benefit for a few clubs. Our decision has at times had to defy logic and question our own short term interests as others focus on theirs. Given that the SPL and SFA have signalled a clear intention to act against any decision that might result in Sevco Scotland Ltd being admitted to the Third Division, then the limited logic left in this process points to them as believing they have the monopoly of wisdom on what is good for the game. We can expect that, no matter what the SFL clubs decide, Sevco Scotland will not be playing in the Third Division in the coming season. How more short-termism can be for the good of the game really does defy logic. When the dust settles on this affair, it would be good to think that we can all get back to watching football. Sadly, no matter how it turns out today, some will not return to our game. Quote
glasgow sheep Posted July 13, 2012 Report Posted July 13, 2012 Anyone remember if any SPL club said they must start in the 3rd division? This i think hits the nail on the head, Sevco 5088 can not be admitted to ANY league... but alas Regan will go out and counter any voting today and throw Sevco into the SPL. IF THIS HAPPENS I EXPECT ALL ABERDEEN FANS to return season tickets ASAP and walk away. As the whole season will be fixed !!!! NO RELEGATION... farce... That will happen but I don't believe Seveco will be anywhere near the SPL this, or next season. Quote
glasgow sheep Posted July 13, 2012 Report Posted July 13, 2012 Thommo's latest Blog http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thomsons-view/football-chairmen-living-fairytale-world/2265 Quote
Jute Posted July 13, 2012 Report Posted July 13, 2012 That will happen but I don't believe Seveco will be anywhere near the SPL this, or next season. Jim Jeffires on the radio this morning saying he thinks Newco will be in the SPL for the start of the season. Quote
TENEMENTFUNSTER Posted July 13, 2012 Report Posted July 13, 2012 They're going to get away with it, why else have they not promoted/not relegated someone? Quote
glasgow sheep Posted July 13, 2012 Report Posted July 13, 2012 It won't happen. These fucking clowns said the SPL would vote them in, they said the SFL would vote them in. Calm down! Grant Russell ?@STVGrant Scot Gardiner: We [Dundee] were told 10 days ago we were conflicted. We got an email at 4.55pm last night saying Dundee had to vote Omnishambles doesn't seem adequate. Quote
BobbyBiscuit Posted July 13, 2012 Report Posted July 13, 2012 Jim Jeffires on the radio this morning saying he thinks Newco will be in the SPL for the start of the season. And yet his chairman said something else altogether. You're cherry picking the bits you want to fit your cynicism Jute. Everything the media has spun so far has been wrong. Quote
capitalsharpie Posted July 13, 2012 Report Posted July 13, 2012 Jim jeffries? Since when did he know ANYTHING about football? Quote
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